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As a self-proclaimed finance nerd I do sometimes view things like debt consolidation, private placements, and large asset-class structured holding companies as 'magical'.
Unrelated, would it be weird if I asked you to make me a beer? I'm looking to build a craft brew shop/local distributor using some of my DOLV profits and could use some good homebrew for a craft line.
I'd like to try the sample myself though as I recognize that you, understandably, have a hard time separating bias from product and may have an ulterior motive for this project...the brew project of course.
Always build your own understanding of narrative that fits your DD, but tbh the more that comes out about ZJMY and Jinbo, the more excited I am, because look at it this way, Jinbo's energy subsidiary is its current baby. It is to Jinbo right now what its mobile platform/ecommerce subsidiaries were to JB in the last 7+ years.
So 7 years later, they have built their mobile companies under the JB Investment Holding Group name, established a large customer base and have built a solid foundation for their 3 public company, 9 division long-term plan.
Next (2016), they start implementing their plan in full force as evidenced by JB Group's late 2016 announcements and 2017 outlook. Their first big step: Taking the ZJMY private company (which already held Wuhu's EV patents) and rolling it into, rather silently, a US OTC shell with a manageable SS controlled and firmly under the control of Wang Dequn (through preferred shares).
Now, those that have been watching the OTCmarkets site know that they have been making minor adjustments since it was officially verified (likely RO) and we know they are getting the last steps taken care of so they can have their 'official launch'.
Now I bring up the idea of official launch, because if we are following along, we know that at some point DOLV will likely see a ticker change to reflect the new nature of the business(I'm betting the new tickers ends up being ZJMY or JMY Holding (JMYH)).
I believe the ticker change is a inflection point for this company and will IMO be supported by an increase in marketing efforts from the company with the intention of building product interest, reaching up-listing requirements, and establishing an early foothold.
Remember once the JB and ZJMY names are more directly connected to a company that has the tech and financial backing to grow into full-fledged new-gen battery manufacturing and charging/service stations (supported by their own JB subsidiary mobile payment platform), I feel the sheer amount of interest will see a massive boost.
Furthermore, its my opinion that Chinese investors are more likely to recognize and understand the significance of the Wuhu Energy acquisition back in 2015 as well as the Chery brand as a manufacturing/vehicle partner.
And this is ALL with nearly zero direct news from the company. I for one am going to be buying all the way into Summer as I have already seen major hints of sales from the company (found by this boards excellent DD hunters).
got some .047's thanks! I'm like a hoover down in the 4's :p
When you say chicken coop, this is all I heard:
Stocks like DOLV take the ability to look the other way for days at at time (weeks if you have an itchy trade finger)
Do what I've been doing to pass time, take a small percentage, flip another ticker or two in the meantime (hopefully profit), put half those profits in DOLV, take the other half, flip another ticker or two...I can go on
Needless to say, it keeps you busy, you stop watching your DOLV core like a hawk and you get somewhere to bank the profits in a pre-eruption play :D
Calling it the Horse Whipped Penny Strat. Its a free system.
My platinum newsletter service (only 420¥!) Smell the Morning Chicken is forthcoming.
hahaha just saw the new name, amazing. Have a great Friday everyone
gonna be out for awhile see you all tomorrow
I LOVE answering questions. I always want to help a new investor with any questions, just ask bud
1. Reversal Merger
I know right, took over a shell that is sized for a holding company with the level of assets that is coming in, cool right
2. More than EV company
Good question there, the best answer would be public holding company with at minimum one EV subsidiary (ZJMY). More than that is why we care about audited financials at all.
3. The potential to be a billion dollar company
Yes. But my 21 year old brother has the 'potential' to be president (in 14+ years), sure doesn't mean it will definitely happen (god help us if it did) In this case my money is on DOLV (JB&ZJMY) over my brother.
4. they are working on fins news as we speak
Thanks for reiterating this, its important we understand it takes time.
5. Pps is dropping. But Everything is great
I agree.
7. It is ok not to know the location of manufacturing facility. Just believe. Many websites say things are going to be great.
Not sure if this is a question so...I would go look wherever Chery manufactures their vehicles parts, I personally do not feel thats worth my time, but the board really welcomes good DD hunters so would you?
8. Don't ask for the address of the company in china even though the address on the otc markets web is wrong.
Weird, this link: http://zhongjimingyang.com/ worked for me.
9. Just wait news is coming. But not sure whether it has any revenues.
Don't let calls for news get you down, news comes when news comes. Tbh the longer the delay the tighter a chart will usually coil. One of the reasons OTC has such dramatic pps rises to begin with.
10. Visiting china. Proof of China visit. The owners are great. What a drama!
Yeah, my favorite bit of DD, hearing that the two ex-pat directors (and shareholders) have a clear sight-line to where real public companies list in the US and their level of execution in the past months, let alone years tell me they can do it.
11. "Intends" means not within two weeks but months
"*Southern Drawl* Well that depends on what the definition of 'intend' is"
12. Pps will be 1-3 dollar in the foreseeable future.
I. Am. Down. See you at ~$2, I'll sell 10 shares and we can grab a burger. On me of course.
13. Ev cars are in production, but we are not sure where is being produced. Just believe the websites.
May I refer you to my answers in question #7 and #8. I'm not your AskJeeves.com ffs.
14. Translation: what does google translation say? I cannot understand the English translation of Chinese
Post it here, someone will help :)
15. News is coming! Tomorrow. Again Tomorrow. Don't lose hope. Just hit the ask hard.
I see the problem, you want to go at that backwards. First you hit the ask hard at dips during the days without news and then news comes.
I got your back princess
-Obi-Wan
Got my coffee, scanner (screen 1) and dolv board (screen 2). Watching a boring power hour even, and I'm still here.
I don't know about you all, but the more DD you do the better you will feel about your decisions.
"As the roosters awake so do our swords, yeehaw giddy up."
Power hour is always fun here ;) that 10m in buys was a nice start.
lol this is pre-stop sign removal too and thats already been confirmed.
ggwp AMLH
So what you are saying is I should put this tin of open chicken I've been smelling all day down and I should STOP jumping around like a horse, whip kicking things off my desk?
...I mean alright, but it was sure getting me motivated.
IMO Jinbo Group's entire presence makes DOLV (JB&ZJMY Holding company) a hold. I'm more interested in what JB Group is planning as I see them pretty clearly holding the reins.
(I encourage everyone to read the actual articles or refer to the many DD posts by floridany, bobdude, brokemama, choi, etc before making investment calls):
JB&ZJMY: ->
-We know now that JB&ZJMY is Jinbo Investment Group's subsidiary Zhong Ji Ming Yang New Energy Technology Co., Ltd.. IMO this was to handle the assets (patents!) from Wuhu Huaba Electric Vehicle Co., Ltd. (courtesy of floridany -> http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=130266327
-We know that Jinbo Group is looking to aggressively build on the strength of their core subsidiaries and tech. Remember they have spent the last 7+ years growing their Online-to-Offline (O2O), Factory-to-Consumer (F2C) and e-commerce subsidiaries. (The 2017 outlook link covers this all in detail as well as their expansion plan - http://www.liuyangshi.cn/liuyangxinwen/ec/135535.html)
-Furthermore we know that ZJMY has been created as an public holding company and looks to be the first of three public company 'arms' of the Jimbo Investment Group. Remember this quote from the larger plan outlined in the same 2017 outlook:
"Three core:
? Entity industry: R & D, production and sales of mobile terminal products and new energy electric vehicles are the entity industry of the company and the foundation of the company's development.
? Mobile Internet: to ensure the speed of development of the company;
? Financial sector: provide the source for the development of the company."
3-5 year-to-completion expansion plan. 3 public companies as pillars. 9 divisions to expand.
So IMO Jinbo is just getting started. As Wang Jinlai said to close, "Smell the chicken from today, leaping horse whip at this time!"
Other Links for Proof
Wuhu Huaba Electric Vehicle Co., Ltd. - Here you will find support for ZJMY acquiring Wuhu EV Co. Scroll down to Change of Record section - shows that on January 23rd Jinbo acquired 70% of Wuhu, Wang Jinlai became the primary officer, and also some paid in capital. (http://www.tianyancha.com/company/1196495175)
For a more detailed list of JB subsidiaries - I found Riskstorm gave me less trouble so here: (https://www.riskstorm.com/search?keyword=%E7%8E%8B%E5%BE%B7%E7%BE%A4&type=all&tab_type=company&size=20&from=0)
--> Someone better at translating help! Can Dequn by itself be translated to "of the group" because sometimes I get Wang Group instead of Wang Dequn
Goodnight all, I'm gonna grab some sleep.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them apply their online-to-offline (O2O) and mobile payment systems in the development of their battery replacement system.
After all, Chinese consumer have largely shifted to mobile payment systems for nearly everything (WeChat Pay is probably the largest example). If I were Jinbo, I would want to leverage our own tech to keep things in-house. With their systems, this shouldn't be all that difficult (just look at what they have done with Amoy mall)
Seriously, the guy knows how to push his advantage and keep moving. If you track his tweets, meetings and tours you'll notice how much he has been traveling in the last few days building up connections and actively participating/engaging with e-sports industry leaders. When he shares, its about action and moving the company forward.
But sure, I guess people can keep telling themselves this is just fluff tweeting to hide lack of substance. There are plenty of pennies out there run by CEO's with blank LinkedIn profiles and hope-filled PRs.
I can tell you I'm betting AMLH is one of the above, good to see the growing group of longs here agrees.
I feel the important takeaway is as you said, the growth of the EV side of the company is their baby. I'm guessing they will be pushing it across all the Jimbo Group platforms/media events to build exposure.
True, it has enough scheduled content between shows and top streamers that you can almost always throw something on.
all the 30-50's just googled that.
the 60+ were like, "fkn kids."
short term the stop sign alone is massive, but seeing this CEO's pattern of behavior, he does not sit around. I expect to see a PR storm surrounding developments of their first round of content. Based on some of the interviews/tours/meeting videos that we have seen, I'm betting on a esports news/broadcasting type show.
Tbh if you are a twitch viewer or have ever watching video game streams, you will know that the market is ready for this type of show in a way it never was in the early G4 days.
Now there are enough actual 'video game' celebs that are recognizable (from top competitive games with prize pools) alone who are hungry to expand their own brands. This will just play right into AMLH's model.
I believe the term here is, load up or get a bigger boat ;)
Here is the ZJMY vehicle logo (in case my original post is lost in the excitement)
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzIwNzYzMDcxOQ==&mid=2247483769&idx=1&sn=cb163045cf804956f44fb0f99232cdf3&scene=0#wechat_redirect"
vs
http://zhongjimingyang.com/#page7 logo
OOPS SPECIAL LINK WAS WRONGLY COPY-PASTED:
Here is the actual link + article (April 16, 2017) about Jinbo Group and recent agreement with ASEAN Economic Research Insititue in Guangxi.
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzIwNzYzMDcxOQ==&mid=2247483769&idx=1&sn=cb163045cf804956f44fb0f99232cdf3&scene=0#wechat_redirect
Please take a moment to look at the SUV picture (2nd from the bottom) and then tell me that isn't a ZJMY SUV
I've been using Riskstorm.com (https://www.riskstorm.com/search?keyword=%E9%87%91%E5%8D%9A%E6%8A%95%E8%B5%84%E6%8E%A7%E8%82%A1%E9%9B%86%E5%9B%A2&tab_type=general&size=20&from=0) to find related articles about Jinbo Group and related subsidiaries (many of which are managed by the Wang Dequn/Wang Group)
The last link should include an SUV picture in the post with all 4 doors sitting open. Ill fix when I get back home
Boom time. This is all on CEO just getting normal sh*t done.
Just wait until the PR's concerning the completed casting for upcoming scripted content start rolling out. Its gonna get cray around here.
Nah these are some nice articles:
""Yao shi Jin Bo win the world" Jin Bo Investment Holding Group 2017 Outlook"
Its a great summary of Jin Bo's 2017 plans and provides some further supports of the scope of Jin Bo from a March 13th 2017 article released on Chinese news sites: translated text version:(http://yuqing.china.com.cn/show/88249.html)
-and here it is with presentation images: (http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzIwODgyNTY4OQ==&mid=2247483681&idx=4&sn=4af645307858468471c301f16af6f22d&scene=0#wechat_redirect)
How does all this help Zhong Ji Ming Yang New Energy Tech Co. ltd ZJMY? (Provided evidence where possible, but also includes my opinions- please read your own DD too)
Well lets go back and look at just some of the marketing we have seen out of ZJMY recently:
- The Cherry v3 giveaway contest on April 6th (http://digi.163.com/17/0330/11/CGP7RK31001680NS.html).
For April Fool's ZJMY partnered with Shandong TV to giveaway four MASSIVE discount coupons for the soon-to-be released (goal is July) Cherry V3 Electric Vehicle (projected to list for 200,000-288,000 yuan), this discount mean a person could get a new EV for 18,000-36,000 yuan For the lazy that is about ~$40k down to ~$2.5-5k for a new gen EV. As the article puts it, "the audience [was] completely boiling." I think they gave away another in early March (someone find).
This was also preceded by the Hainan Sanya's Haitian feast release event (http://shuoke.autohome.com.cn/article/553297.html) which we have seen before (thanks!)
I do want to point out one quote from this above article: "Chery Kay wing V3 this electric car target groups for private car users and network car users, and the current domestic network has a car company signed a 100,000 orders of intent;"
Furthermore, and this is always a good sign, they are hiring right now:
(http://www.chinahr.com/company/20964670259714.html) - EV Sales and HR
(http://dc.epjob88.com/company/cm1476259543509/) - recently added regional director position opening a few days ago looks like.
Makes you think about the statement's we've seen in the DD so far about how Jinbo was building its foundation as a company and is now entering its growth stage where it will leverage the combined networks of its successful ventures to propel the group forward.
Special Extra DD:
During a Jinbo award show there was a picture of a car that you all may find interesting (http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzAxNTMxNjI2NA==&mid=2650026880&idx=1&sn=ce15ac64d1c368f18d79f8ee1b771634&scene=0#wechat_redirect)
Note the logo on the SUV in the picture, its the Z logo found on ZJMY's website, not Chery...very interesting if you ask me.
Yeah, I thought it was relevant as it provides further validation of his connected status. Also imo it demonstrates a strategic move in garnering media and political attention. The guy clearly isn't standing still, they are executing on all the prongs of Jinbo Group
Veterans come in all ages and sizes. Its 24 months of active service (used to be less)
DD Jinbo Group Summary: (Chinese translation - Chongqing Business Network article)
(https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=zh-CN&sp=nmt4&u=http://www.chinacqsb.com/xw/sh/2017/03/1514896.html&usg=ALkJrhje7gNCwDcSNVB1eW2LrCPtY6qQGQ) - sorry for the long link
They go over the 9 part, 3 core business model.
Part 9 is my favorite: "9) New energy: the development of new energy vehicles is the country from the car to the car power of the only way. The company's independent research and development, production and sales of new pure electric vehicles using independent research and development of technical routes, in the "battery, motor, electronic control and rapid replacement" four areas to achieve a breakthrough technology, creating a third generation of electric vehicles precedent , Won more than ten national patent technology. High-speed car battery does not heat, life mileage easily break 500 km, battery replacement can be completed in 1.5 minutes."
**Wanted to post this before I head to get some sleep (if I can) This is one of the more recent articles I've found on Chinese sites pertaining to Jinbo's future plans, definitely seeing far more exposure for the Jinbo Group and now the EV battery arm.
Grabbed me some more .058's today (thanks!), but with the DD becoming more clear by the day, I think I'm gonna have a lot of competition snagging anything pre-dime
Some background on Wang Jinlai for those interested: (let me know if anyone has translation improvements)
Wang Jinlai (???) is there on the cover of WCOCE (World Chinese Overseas Chinese Elite) 159th issue. If you are interested, here is an early article on the organizations mission statement (http://www.waoce.net/html/xhjj/219.html)
TLDR: Their mission: "Information age, resource sharing. The elite will advance with the times, give full use to its resources and management functions, in order to promote Chinese and overseas Chinese economic and trade exchanges and national economic and social "comprehensive, coordinated and sustainable" development"
He is also listed under Chairman of the Bureua of WCUGA (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wcuga.com%2Fpresidency.html) or the original link: (http://www.wcuga.com/presidency.html)
Also for those wondering what he has been up to recently, here he is producing a TV series in early April: "http://wenhua.cjn.cn/new/20170410/ccj49562.html" a tv-drama focused on Chinese fire depts and written to promote "Guigu culture" with this guy (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0052607/)
IMO that is one of the best parts of this, you so rarely find a company with such well-connected backing in the OTC and I see this thing flying in the coming weeks, especially before June
Hey all, lets get some DD going?
So we have Thomes Lommel (https://www.xing.com/profile/Thomas_Lommel) + Olive Tree Pharmacy (https://www.oliveda.com/world_of_oliveda_en) which have merged into the old HCMP(G) shell.
This article from May 2015 makes it clear that Oliveda Group through Lommel would form Oliveda International, Inc. and that it intends to move to the US (http://www.pr-inside.com/de/oliveda-goes-hollywood-r4248358.htm)
Quote: "In order to establish itself even more firmly in the American market, Oliveda Group Inc., based in Santa Monica, California, founded Oliveda International Inc. on April 20, A perfect prerequisite to meet the great demand in North and South America. In the course of this internationalization, Oliveda Group Inc. not only holds all the trademark rights for this market but also for Europe, as well as the shares of the English and German companies."
What I really like about this company though is the recent movement in its social media presence + the ss reduction to level off the share price. I have a good feeling that this could point to a US location opening.
Why? Look at their facebook group alone, it has blown up. Again, I'll spare you the trouble of reading through all the posts (https://www.facebook.com/OlivedaCosmetics/?hc_ref=SEARCH&fref=nf)
1) Dusseldorf store opening
2) Partnership with a Tokyo luxury spa (assuming product licensing deal to distribute Oliveda products as treatments -> reception looked good)
3) Big marketing push from the company in fashion magazines (especially in 2017)
4) The last year has been filled with higher customer engagement through store opening and giveaway events. You don't see pennies with this level of activity.
What else? Oh their product pages look amazing (https://www.oliveda.com/Top7?&lang=eng) as do their stores .
The one thing I'm waiting on news of financing for new locations (especially US would be great), but tbh it already feels like they have the money.
My favorites were pages 22/23 are about the patent applications.
Slide 22 mentioned that over 10 EV/battery patent applications are under review
Also thank you for the ongoing DD from the big names, you guys have been killing it.
On slide 17, the three pictures of buses translate to:
1) Police pavilion bus (transport and security)
2) Logistics Vehicle (transmission vans and support vehicles)
3) Electric bus
Don't forget all, you can use the Google Translate app on your phone's camera function. Just point at anything in Chinese and it will give you a rough translation.
For those frustrated by trying to make sense of Chinese slideshow pdf that don't auto-translate.
I've been pouring over connections to the big names in the company and adding DOLV at all the dips.
IMO the company actually wants to create a PR firestorm coming into early June/July. If I have been finding accurate articles, this should coincide nicely with production announcements for new Cherry SUVs.
Jin Bo Investment Holding Group DD
Working my way through poorly translated docs, so please let me know if anyone finds contradicting info.
Nice Jin Bo overview (http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_d9ea9f9d0102vrpx.html)
--Note the first paragraph includes (translated) "chairman is of air-force born, participated in Vietnam attack) supporting the ex-military narrative
The links on that page take you to their mobile payment subsidiaries sites:
(http://www.jinbojt.com/, https://vip.smaier.cn/) and a online e-commerce site: (http://www.anzimall.com).
From what I can tell, these are subsidiaries that were rolled under one arm of the Jin Bo Investment Holdings Group.
Jin Bo looks to be just getting into its biggest stride and with backing like this, I'm far more confident of DOLV's eventual rise.
Hi!!!
I saw that picture too during my search. Here is the rest of my DD into Jin Bo Group (sometime re-translated as Kim Bo Group) and its chairman Wang Jinlai.
Here is what I found on Wang Jinlai:
(I used chrome extensions for my translating, but ran them through a separate translation site to confirm names, I recommend you do the same.)
Jinlai Wang (who we know from his youku.com video speech http://i.youku.com/i/UMzYxMTk2NzQ0MA==?spm=a2h0j.8191423.subscription_wrap.DD~8~A) looks to be a big deal by himself.
-Article and images from the Chinese Metro News Network of January Conference event during which Mr. Wang Jinlai is the prominent speaker (http://www.dswt.net/m/view.php?aid=17678)
-Separate article on Wang Jinlai and Jin Bo Group (yep thats our guy)(http://chuangxin.china.com.cn/txt/2016-08/16/content_8965104.htm)
AND FINALLY
Remember that cover issue that wasn't online: well here you are (http://www.yiernews.com/html/20160925/163989.html)
boston is just a bit mad the CEO is prettier than him
he'll come around
also shows annual list posted today (4/11/17) if you look at all the actions on NV sos
CEO delivers on time, thats a good sign that he has a solid PR schedule outlined and plans to meet those deadlines
Fins were promised within next two weeks (by April 20th), didn't say it would take the full two weeks
People will want in prior to the upcoming consolidated fin release and DOLV has shown it tends to release info prior to deadlines.
I'm gonna go ahead and bet that there will not be a lack of buyers this week.
there honestly just wasn't the time since they waited till eod for the push down. Even with only 15 minutes left buyers were still there soaking them back up.
All I heard was "manufacturing batteries" and "wang took this company public"
now thats some solid DD right there man thanks, I'm in
damnit did someone say his name 3 times again? we said stop doing that
Just the usual games:
1) 100%+ gain days
2) bears see their alerts and smell the doubt that it could keep climbing (even in the face of strong DD)
3) they all attack at once
4) after the mauling they go home and sit on their fat butts and post comments, mostly about shit and dumps...cause bears are gross slobs
with DOLV however, they didn't bring enough bears.
The late timing points to this being a test of DOLV's strength, they didn't want the market to have much time to react, but even with 15 minutes to spare, buyers snagged back half and still wanted more.
I wouldn't want to be the cub calling for another charge tomorrow, especially since I know some people in other plays are looking for a new home and DOLV just flashed a sign saying "Buy Opp"