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Where are you edge? Post the name of the law firm and your contact. It was Scott Kamber law firm wasn't it??
March 26, 2006- The crooks are off the civil liability hook.
Please post your contacts name and phone number Edge IF YOU WANT ANYONE TO BELIEVE YOU DIDN'T SET ANDY UP!!!
LAW FIRM NAME EDGE! NOW!!!
"Boy, I know I had wished you and your knowledge would have been there"
Why thank you edge. I would have been there if I hadn't already sold off all my shares at what would now be CDEx at 6.00. Took a nice write-off ta boot.
didster
"Can you find the press clipping where Dr. Poteet had his attorney notify the SEC he would be taking the fifth?"
What press clipping? Never saw it. I know nothing about whether Poteet took the fifth or didn't take the fifth, or what he might have said during questioning.
In fact, as far as I know, there is no public record that Poteet or Philips were ever asked to appear before the SEC to give testimony. Blair was the only one on record to have been ordered by the court to obey a subpeona to testify before the SEC.
Where have you and Kidinsight been getting your information.
Edge,
"If I did say your first name in a post, please provide the post."
Kidinsight posted my name on The Loch long Board about a year ago. I can no longer access the archives.
"What are you four men so afraid of?"
What four men? d4ddidy is one and only one person.
"Has it ever clicked that your movement is only shared by your alias's"
Please see the above.
"Yet, you can only hide behind a keyboard and alias's"
How can i be hiding when you just told me you know who I am.
LOL
WHO WAS THE LAW FIRM YOU REFERRED TO IN YOUR POST EDGE????
Milchip,
If you have been given specific information that a material event is being withheld you should be able to verify it.
If the information is simply that there is material information being withheld, then shame on you.
How many times have we heard hearsay.
Calm down.
By: arloco
14 May 2001, 06:28 PM EDT Msg. 64561 of 157160
(This msg. is a reply to 64549 by ontheedge00.)
ontheedge00,
Please post the attorney's address and phone number that is willing to take on a case.
The information you request from shareholders should be addressed directly to him.
She even said please and you never answered her.
Why not if you were playing it straight?
What law firm?
By: ontheedge00 $$$$$
14 May 2001, 05:41 PM EDT Msg. 64549 of 157159
{excerpt}
"In my opinion, present management have not only wronged the company and the technology, but they have wronged us, the shareholders! This may give us rights to pursue management in court in the future. We have contacted a law firm, specializing in class actions suits. This firm has enjoyed much success in representing their clients. The firm will take our case based on a contingency bases."
What law firm was that Edge? Scott Kamber's firm?
That question is important Edge because you said that Andy's attorney recommended the law firm which then chose Stewart and Stasi as derivative plaintiffs.
In the past, you've been accused of contacting Andy's attorney (behind his back) and rcommending a law firm to him.
Was the law firm that you allegedly recommended to Andy's attorney (and he recommended to Andy) the very same one that you are describing above? One that would take the case on contingency.
What is the name of that law firm and who at the firm said they'd take the case on contingecy?
I believe that Andy was SET UP BIG TIME BY YOU!!!!
LMAO!!!
By: ontheedge00 $$$$$
15 May 2001, 11:10 AM EDT Msg. 64728 of 157157
To all concerning Sandia patent
No Similarity! Sandia monitors plasma processing operationsand Loch measures efflux. Plasma is substance like blood fluid, milk or juices squeezed from muscles or meat, etc. and efflux is an outward flow of aroma, radiations or gases like the stuff dogs can sniff out. In short no similarity.
I really don't think the plasma that Sandia monitors is like blood plasma Edge. A high energy ionized gas could give you heartburn! LOL
No Similarity? Please cite your references. Facts please.
You are comparing apples to oranges. The Sandia patent for the monitoring of impurities in plasma is an application using UF fluorescence and is exactly like the VAMMP promoted by Loch Harris and later by CDEx. Has MP ever explained what happen to VAMMP?
Why did you attempt to compare it to the ELF which is allegedly based on a mysterious XRF (and capable of leaping tall buildings in a single bound).
Did you have some PP deals on the line at that time?
Did you put their minds at ease?
Here's a good one:
By: ontheedge00 $$$$$
16 May 2001, 01:03 PM EDT Msg. 65005 of 157157
We have just got off phone with Capnmike, let me clarify a point that some of you may need to hear. We fully agree with Capnmike about our best solution being:
1) The leadership of Loch go back to the table and do their fiduciary responsibility that they have been empowered to do. It is in all shareholders best interest that the spinoff takes place, and CDEx is headed by a person that will always keep the shareholder in the forefront, and his or her own agenda at home away from the company. I can once again assure you that we have very capable people that are shareholders of record who can certainly further our cause as our CEO. We have learned from Capnmike that he has talked to people all over the world and it is of the utmost importance that current Loch leadership act swiftly and correctly to the benefit of shareholders.
Wow, Ontheedge00 was insuring all shareholders that MP wouldn't be doing what he has been doing! LOL
I wonder who Capnmike talked to, what he told those people and what he was told.
All over the world... Wow again.
Edgster, have you called Gandy yet or have you been too busy on the TCL board posting under your Kidinsight alias?
"You know what, I am going to call Marshall Gandy myself, and ask him if they remembered to ask Dr. Poteet about that very subject."
Wait a cotton pickin' second, you're the one who posted that Poteet made the statement under oath (deposition) that he new nothing about the false PR's and he new nothing about Blair being called the inventor. He was too busy in the lab.
Why would Gandy NOT know this?
Looks like we'll be adding another whooper (TM- Jasmine) to your rap sheet!
Edgy,
You know who I am, you even called me by my first name in a post and even seem to know my profession. Maybe your friend should give you a call to remind you in case you forgot.
You're too much! LOL
Rottenappple, it's exactly like the old days, same tactics and most of the same players.
Milchip has now heard that MP is withholding material information. If the information isn't true, he's not sure whether his source is lying or someone has lied to his source.
Same ole BS being spread with built in layers of denial.
The exact same game as Loch Harris. When will they ever learn.
How about this one....
{i}"There are no such mineral (oil) rights on several properties or one property that me or any member of my family transferred to Loch Harris. Another falsehood."{/i}
Let's see, I think that means the properties in question are not greater than two nor is it one property.
So there were exactly two properties in the transaction
Edgster?
I guess the question really is whether that was just Edgy talk or Malspeak? LOL
"Is it more important to know who someone actually is by their real name or what they are typing on this board about people and events? Just how important is it that we know who someone actually is?"
No it's not important to know the true identity of a poster, but it is important to know that a poster is using two or more aliases for deception, especially when that poster is spinning a tall tale.
Hurray Edgster,
"...Well the good thing is Cisco, we all have a chance, because Mr. Phillips and Dr Poteet started plugging all the holes that B/B put into everything..."
Hurray Dr. Poteet, I'm sure glad that you've become more proactive instead of being so busy in the lab that you didn't know Blair was calling himself the inventor and DaBoyz were falsifying your test reports.
But really Dr Poteet, I think that with the fine executive staff MP has assembled you can find your way back to the lab to get this party rolling.
Edgy,
I'm getting the distinct impression that you don't like me! LOL
"Now go back and figure out how you missed the post that explained why I knew who he was."
No need Edge, I made my post before I read your explanation. Really Edgster, that should have been pretty simple to figure out on your own!
And if you didn't catch it, I did give you the benefit of the doubt. I refrain from calling anyone a liar unless I'm absolutely certain (and even then I rarely do- you're one of the few exceptions).
Dear Mr. Phillips,
If you could please answer a question for some skeptical shareholders you'd help very much to easy their minds.
You said that (and I paraphrase) "there are no known obstacles left in bringing the ELF/EM-1 to market".
What was that statement suppose to mean? That the tech was ready for production and sales?
So a few bugs were discovered. understandable. Can you please advise shareholders on what are NOW KNOWN to be obstacles which are preventing the ELF/EM-1 technology from "selling like hotcakes"? WHEN DID YOU LEARN ABOUT THE NEWLY DISCOVERED OBSTACLES?
Gee, let me think back... it tested successfully at YUMA. It was tested with flying colors at Kinnsmen island. It was tested at the Tucson lab with fantastic results. It was even praised by all the paid, third party observers. Was it only after the Army testing that the brilliant technical staff at Loch/CDEx learned that it didn't work good enough to sell?
Guess what, If CDEx had included the missing CRUCIAL DATA in their published test reports I'll bet (sorry Scared) even some of us common folk could have figured out how well it would work in the real world. Funny how you guys missed it.
Oh and BTW, what is the status of the VAMMP which YOU advertised as you began your tenure as CEO of CDEx? Did the technology developed and patened at Sandia cause CDEx to abandon that application?
In fact, could you please give us an update on ANYTHING based on XRF that was the basis for ALL the tech under development during the Loch Harris SCAM days where investors lost hunderds of millions of dollars?
Thank you.
d4diddy
"Revolutionary tech without FDA approval will not sell very well."
Revolutionary tech which gets rejected by the U.S Army and Navy is NOT revolutionary IMO!
Revolutionary tech which CANNOT find funding (except for "no-risk" sweet PP deals) is NOT revolutionary IMO.
Revolutionary tech which has mysteriously remain revolutionary since Poteet's original "alleged" patent filing in 1994 is NOT revolutionary IMO.
Revolutionary tech that performs the SAME function as other commercially available products is not revolutionary IMO.
AND most of all... revolutionary tech that CANNOT KNOWINGLY perform the task as advertised is a SCAM!!!
Ontheedge, what was the name of the original law firm you talked with that you claimed (on the Loch long Board) would take the case on contingency? Arloco asked you FOUR YEARS ago but you never answered her.
Please don't tell us it was Rottenapple's good buddy, Scotty-boy. LOL!!
Rottenapple,
Ontheedge claimed he didn't know who you were, then only a couple posts later calls you Casey as if the two of you are buddy-buddy! How many times have we seen a classic ontheedge/kidinsight blunder like that on these boards! LMAO!!
I'd add that to the list of lies he's told if it wasn't for the remote possibility that he may have learned your name in between his two posts.
I'm a fair guy. The rest of his lies are rock solid.
I suppose MP and the Boyz never paid him to be analytical, they pay him to be a speak easy and hawk PP shares.
"When I talked to the law firm, their story was not the one you are spreading, try talking to them face to face."
I ask a few good question and you claim I'm spreading a story? LOL
BTW, thank you Kidd for answering them for me. They're all crooks IMO- period.
Kid/Edge, you lied and said MP was just a ordinary shareholder like the rest of us.
You lied when you claimed Poteet threatened to sue the Arizona Daily Star for the mere mention of his name in an article published in 1995. Why would you get so excited over it anyway? Oh yeah, because it establishes that Poteet and Blair go way back. It also establishes that they both worked on projects at Sandia together. And it just so happens that Sandia developed and patented something identical to what Loch called the VAMPP .... and Sandia researched and developed something almost identical to what Loch called ELF. But I'm getting off tract aren't I?
You lied about answering MP's email and even tried to make a fake one to cover-up your lie. When you got caught by foolishly using a non-existent date you said you were only joking. Why would you get so upset for answering MP's personal email anyway? Oh yeah, you were suppose to be a plaintiff in a DA/CA lawsuit and by establishing a business relationship with MP, you should have been disqualified for COI.
Did you post under the alias tbeezer?
Rottenapple,
I'd be willing to bet (sorry scared) that you'd love to meet Stewart in person! LOL
"Your're toasty!"
Sorry pigs, wrong answer.
If you're having trouble with this one let me know, I'll spell it out for you.
Okie dokes?
LMAO!!! You da mon Cisco!!! Your version of how the perps have sacrafices so much is far,far more believeable than egdy/kidinsight's hand waving and grandstanding.
The inescapable facts remain- the crooks have made a bundle by selling nothing but shares. Shareholders have lost virtually everything.
There's been nothing but speculation and hype about something being "revolutionary" for over ten years now yet no one seems to know what it is. How funny is that??? I can hardly believe people (not you scared) are still buying on pure hype.
Look at what Raiderman says after making sure everyone re-reads the press release again:
"The fact that these two have been added in recent weeks should tell us all that we may have something pretty special."
May have? LMAO!!! I thought that his "considerable DD" convinced him years ago! LOL
Why is it that Loch/CDEx can't simply explain what makes the tech so special? What makes it better than every other instrument manufactured that CAN PERFORM THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION?
Why does Phillips and Poteet continue to make shareholders do guesswork about the tech. A good example is how Raiderman is forced to deduce that "we may have" good tech because CDEx has hired on two more people. Why has this been going on for YEARS???
The history of this tech is that it has always been based on pure speculation. MR MALCOLM PHILLIPS WHERE IS YOUR ACCOUNTABILITY? Where's the beff (TM- jmarcine)??
What makes it worth billions?
Why does it remain "revolutionary" after over ten (10) YEARS???!!
There can be one and only one answer.
LOL!!! Very funny Crow!!! But what's this salesboy still doing here? I fired him yesterday.
That's a very good question:
1. How did Malcolm Phillips get paid when he was working as a legal consultant for Loch Harris?
2. Did his law firm ask him to resign because of his moonlighting? Wasn't he a general partner in the law firm?
3. Did p4316 use deception while posting and hyping Loch Harris on RB? Did he disclose that he was an insider when he touted that ELF would sell like hotcakes, we need only build them??
4. Did Kidinsight lie (once again) when he said that "Malcolm Phillips was an ordinary shareholder like the rest of us"?
If the answers to these question are "YES" would one have to consider Ontheedge/kidinsight, MP and the rest of their associates stock market scamsters?
Let your common sense guide you.
Rottenapple, it's not so much how gullible Edgy things we are as it is his ability to use his brain. Seriously.
Edgy was a train wreck the minute he started pitching the cover up story to investors on the Loch Long board.
He got caught in a lie the very first day.
Deception is the way of the flim flam men (and used car salesman).
ontheedge,
"...Phillips was LOCH's SEC lawyer during the pump and dump days."
Really, no allegations or IMO's in that statement of fact.
Well Ontheedge, do you agree or diagree with the above quoted statement? I believe you once said that MP was just another shareholder like the rest of us until he took advantage of what he saw as a good opportunity to save the revolutionary tech. LMAO!!
Now that's what I'm talkin' about- your very, very bad ability to make up believeable tale tells. Kapeesh?
Maybe the information has been sealed by the SEC like Wade Poteet's alleged lawsuit against the Arizona Daily Star for the mere mention of his name in the same article as Henry Blair. Remember, way back in '95 when they worked together?
Maybe we won't be able to confirm it until after the investigation is over? When the SEC as you said will release the information? LOL But you'll show us... you'll show all of us when it's over won't cha?
How funny you are!!! LOL
Yawn.....
Kidinsight/edgy,
Most shareholders now know that you've been working for "the big four" (Boone, Baker, MP, WP) for many years, both before and after the SA.
The problem is you've done a lousy job of spearheading the cover-up story. You were just not convincing enough and got caught in too many lies that you tried to twist out of by telling even more unbelievable lies. When you got caught in the new lies you'd be left with, "I was only joking" or "you just wait, when the SEC releases the information you'll see".
You're fired.
Pookie, you'll have to pick up the slack.
"Any settlement will have the non-negotiable clause that it be kept 100% under wraps."
Understand Ontheedge, it's in your groups (Boone/Baker/MP/WP) best interest to keep the settlement quiet (quit, quite). The whole idea of settling quietly out of court is to keep it from snowballing out of control.
So after going to all that trouble why would they report it in the SEC filing? LOL!!!
You're playing Mr. Innocent and hoping that people go along with you and presume that Loch wasn't a scam and the perps are all honest trustworthy people and would never lie.
NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!!! LMAO!!!
Right Ontheedge, Mr. squeaky clean! LOL
I'm sorry SD........
.... wait a second, nope, I'm not actually sorry at all. Let's see, hmmmm.......I got it.
Excuse me SD, I didn't see a "TM" on "poop on the perps".
Until such time as the mark has been duly recognized by the author as having value, I'll consider it in the public domain and it will not require a "TM" to assign ownership.
Paige, you have never answered my question about your PP shares. Have you sold them all? I guess not the way you're still digging for crumbs.
I believe you are correct Crow, jmarcine is one of those that received a settlement from Loch/CDEx.
Any settlement will have the non-negotiable clause that it be kept 100% under wraps.
Jmarcine was answering your question without saying a word! LOL
I believe that all the professional crooks are are still 100% vulnerable until march 26, 2006; the forced SA was nothing more than a non-binding legal deterrent.
"You know of a "cover up", go ahead and make our day, post it."
Ontheedge = KidStewart = Boone/Baker/MP's hired mouthpiece.
Your mind must be blocking out the words the truth seekers have been writing for several years now.
Did you not understand Kidd's post you just read where he spelled out who are the scamsters and why/how they're covering up the scam? LOL
Of course you know, YOU WORKED FOR BOONE AND BAKER and now YOU WORK FOR MP. All scamsters in the same boat IMO.
I noticed you stopped ending your posts on the TCL board with "da kidd
You were wise to take my advise, it made you looked like a CiscoKidd wannabe.
Crow,
Ethanol cannot be made 100% pure through distillation. In other words, you can't get all the water out.
If my memory serves me correctly one way aqueous ethanol is made near 100% pure is by the addition of a small amount of benzene which forms a azeotropic mixture. The enthanol/benzene mixture distills off and leaves the water behind.
Unfortunately, the small amount of benzene being a carcinogenic makes the near 200 proof "white lightning" non consumable.
"As for curing the "IMPAIRED Hospital workers and Doctors" surely that is almost a joke. Insofar as I have heard, there are no shakedowns of personnel. They can just slip the leftovers in a pocket, and walk away."
Very true Crow. And as it was pointed out by another poster some time ago, alcohol is by far the most abused drug among hospital staffs. A simple breath test in the hospitals would do more to curb "impaired clinicians" than a pillscammer.
Also, it would be detecting substance abuse that didn't originate from cracks in the hospital's drug administration program so they wouldn't be shooting themselves in the foot if they implememented such a program.
And that's if the problem is big enough to go to the trouble of PO every employee in a hospital.