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The pps is up, not in anticipation of Nanoflu news that is expected in Feb 2018; it is because of the preliminary reading of the RSV trials that are ongoing. It is expected to be successful enough to de-risk the stock price. So the pps is higher now
The key word here is expected ... which means (most likely) that it won't happen in Feb 2018.
Are you sure? they haven't proved anything yet!
Why did they let you out of the mental institution? or did you escape? when? do we need to call 911 to have you hauled back to where you belong.
the merits of investing in PTSC is one thing; but you have a compulsive obsessive disorder to be posting 24/7/365 just making the same point.
Man, how does your wife even stand you? god giver the strength to! we pray for her well being and your recovery.
Everyone on this board has already sold. They visit this only to get some entertainment provided by juvenile idiots with a compulsive obsessive disorder such as your kind self!
you seem to know the news already!
Cut him some slack. Know that you are dealing with a person with severe case of ADD
Insiders keep getting lots of shares continuously, so that's not a big worry for them. The better the company performs, more the number of shares for them
but life has a way of teaching lessons to such devious, selfish, low-life, skoumbag$ ... he's missing the wood for trees ...what a loser
So, that's all its always been about: you making more money than others. What a petty dude you are! Instead of saying so directly you've been constantly whining for a couple of years. If you'd just said that you need financial help and that you would not resort to fraud and whining like a mad dog, many of us here would have pooled some money and given it you. After all, a couple of biscuits is all it takes to silence a whining dog.
can you elaborate? tnx
If the pps is 0.05/0.055 by EOW then it is a sure sign that this pps rise was not due to mere speculation
Just Say N
Thanks for the deep insight. This morning, following your heads up I put a sell order for 400,000 shares at 0.0041 (since you said it was going to fall I didn't put a higher price) and my shares didn't sell. Because it is was below even the bid. So I wait now, for the pps to fall whereupon I will sell.
You provide an invaluable service to this board. Never (no pun here) have I come across anyone who's committed so much of his own time in giving free financial advice in order to prevent the possibility of investors coming to ruin.
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I think you didn't read my message. Can you please answer those simple questions? Everyone can and has read the latest developments coming from the Appeals Court. Yet, you still have to answer my 3 questions. Thanks in advance.
Neverending: a few simple questions
1) What exactly do you want?
2) why are you here if you don't own any shares?
3) what is in this for you whether or not we chose to sell our shares?
Will you please be kind enough to answer these?
I wonder what Never aka Geoff's cut is when PTSC is bought out eventually! I'm sure it'll be more than a burger and fries that he's used to
Thanks for the heads up. It is much appreciated. I tried selling all my shares soon after I read your message -- didn't want to be left holding the bag, so to say. However, my sell orders are not going through. So how do people sell, since you are exhorting us to do so? Thanks in advance for another heads up
some cash along the way wouldn't hurt
Facebook? can you provide a link?
It was clearly stated in last week's 8-K that we shareholders would be given the shaft! Regardless of what happens in the courts now, we are toast.
If you read the plan of re-organization the New Alpha was to be formed solely for the purpose of meeting the environmental obligations with regard to clean up, etc. So whatever assets were to be retained in it would be just sufficient to generate the profits to meet these expenses.
Juan, any updates?
I meant that the comment in red in my message was not there in the original. I put it just to show that since it was not there we would not get anything.
Where and how did you come up with the 20%? Did you consider all the claimants for the new ANR and arrive at this?
I meant that the comment in red in my message was not there in the original. I put it just to show that since it was not there we would not get anything.
Where and how did you come up with the 20%? Did you consider all the claimants for the new ANR and arrive at this?
I must clarify that I inserted the comment in red to show that it should have been that way for us to get something.
I'm not sure it means that. Look, it should have been mentioned here:
The Plan continues, “In accordance with the terms and conditions of the Global Settlement Term Sheet, the Debtors, in consultation with the Creditors’ Committee, shall use reasonable best efforts to structure the Reorganized ANR Common Stock so that such shares are tradable; provided that the costs to the Debtors and Reorganized ANR of doing so will be considered as to whether such efforts are ‘reasonable.’…Consistent with the Restructuring Transactions, the NewCo Equity shall be issued by NewCo on or prior to the Effective Date. On the Effective Date and consistent with the Restructuring Transactions: (a) NewCo Common Stock and NewCo Warrants shall be distributed to holders of (i) Allowed Secured Second Lien Noteholder Claims pursuant to Section II.B.3 of the Plan and (ii) Allowed Category General Unsecured Claims pursuant to Sections II.B.7 and II.B.8 of the Plan (iii)holders of pre-BK ANR stock ; and (b) NewCo Preferred Interests shall be distributed to holders of Allowed Secured Second Lien Noteholder Claims pursuant to Section II.B.3 of the Plan.”
This doesn't look like a run. More of a stealthy accumulation following a hasty sell off by some clueless retail
So what you're saying is that this is just a run, and not an indication that we'll get something post BK?
you mean $1.5 billion or million?
Anyway, the company will be owned by unsecured creditors, per the BK filing while Contura by secured lenders. The only uncertainty here is what percentage of the new private company will be own by common: 2%, 3%, ?
I don't think you are right. Molycorp shareholders didn't get anything, if Molycorp is what you mean
The ANR announcement said that the ancient ANR will be a private company owned by unsecured creditors. Why TF didn't they clarify the position of shareholders? I simply don't understand
The ANR announcement said that the ancient ANR will be a private company owned by unsecured creditors. Why TF didn't they clarify the position of shareholders? I simply don't understand
Juan was only guessing and he's out of his wits I presume. Huge dump y'day followed by accumulation today. What's the meaning?
Looks like accumulation is in progress... wtf ... strange, this late in the game hmmm?
If you'd paid attention to bid and ask today, it looked manipulative, like dropping the bid to get you to sell, or raising ask beyond the prevailing price , etc. This can't have been the response of the MMs to institutional selling. It looked more like they were targeting retailers
But why would they delay disclosing everything? what's the point, if they were going to screw us big time they might as well do it quickly
sure it is not good. But why won't they disclose the details? any thoughts? in most BK situations they clearly state that the common will be wiped out or (rarely) given a small share. Nothing of that sort has happened here
I'm not sure if it was big money that was bailing today. I watched the bid and ask intermittently and it appeared that it was fashioned towards retailers. Remember that retail bought big post BK with the expectation of a miracle. Remember all those posts by aceQ, time2time, etc that bought lots and lots? A big holder like an institution would simply dump and move on, but the bid kept dropping, but not the ask when then dumps were happening. this tells me that it was the retail.
We still don't know what the plan is for the commons. Because the BK submission said that the common holders would have no rights except the rights as disclosed in the plan, which has not been public.
Remember that Contura got the mines in exchange for the debt. And what is left is the debt free, but private Alpha, owned by unsecured debt. So what were the rights granted in the private Alpha to common that the BK statement refers to?
Juan, was it you dumping those shares today while keeping up the pump?
Don't you think if that were the case that news would be all over the press -- that shareholders would get some rights? Since nothing of that sort is seen, and looking at the shareprice, I think it is all over for us.