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do you consider it "libel" if someone is called a stock promoter, "paid" in the context of stock market or SEC discussion, merely because that person posts favorably about the stock on a message board?
Yes.
Nor do I, but I love it.
Are you familiar with the phrase "consider the source"? As a research scholar, I naturally had to be able to separate good sources from bad.
I'm not one of the "it must be true because I read it in a book and it was what I already thought" gang.
When I see an article that makes sense and convinces me of its merit, I don't go out and try to find out little tidbits to post about that author.
lol, what do you find "illogical" about my posts? Let's take my commentary on De Costa's nonsense to begin with.
And of course I've managed to "convince" quite a few people over the years, some of them employees of the SEC.
Being a "paid basher" without making disclosure would be as illegal as being a paid tout without making disclosure, obviously.
Very few trade below .0001. Yes, if I wanted to dump shares for tax purposes, I would. But, otherwise, why the heck would I do it?
Some CMKXers made out like bandits. They loaded up at 0.00006 or 0.00007 and sold at 0.00009 or even 0.0001. Not bad, eh?
You want me to discuss the "substance" of Gayle Essary's "work" as a sleazy promoter, or Patchie's as his puppet?
Surely you've read enough of Floydie's posts about Essary not to agree with me? Or does your new favorite word--"hypocrisy"--come into play here?
The math makes .0001 x .0002 the ideal setting.
I'll agree with you on that. It's ideal for CEOs who want to dump gigantic amounts of stock on the market. That's what Urbie did. It took a long time for CMKX to sink below 0.0001. And all the time, as dilution increased by hundreds of billions, Urbie was able to introduce stock on the market at 0.0001 or perhaps a little less, depending on what kind of deal he had going with whoever was doing the dumping for him.
I have a great deal of "technical knowledge" of what constitutes grammatically correct, comprehensible writing.
I've already got those on my list. They look....different.
Shell, GET OFF THIS THREAD. I am weary of your arrogance and your gaudy hypocrisy.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9897390
"Gaudy hypocrisy"!! LOVE IT!!
What's "arrogant" about objecting to people who libel me?
Have you forgotten that I've been here on and off since August or September? Have you forgotten that I've contributed some DD that no one else was able to find?
Too much Gayle Essary and Dave Patch not good.
Retail doesn't participate under .0001, except perhaps for a tax sale.
Nope. CMKX traded below 0.0001 for months. Many many people bought and sold at those levels.
I am saying that. I am also saying that your posts are NOT well-written.
That statement is, of course, objectively untrue. De Costa is semi-literate. But you're entitled to your opinions, subjective and petulant as they may be.
Toxic financing is a problem. Advance shorting into convertible or discount financing is a problem. I agree. Let's prevent the hedge funds, MM's, CEO's, touts and associated traders from doing it.
Fine. Supposedly the SEC's working on the PIPES problem, but as always they're taking their time. They've busted a few toxic financiers lately, at least.
Don't worry, dear, I'm not going to sue you. But you should be aware that you shouldn't go around accusing people of breaking the law.
I'm afraid it really IS libel.
Certainly I "know that". Call anyone in the finance biz and ask if they've ever heard of "cellar boxing".
Jim has already told you, very briefly, what's wrong with his theory. Many stocks, including CMKX, have traded well below 0.0001. If you're really interested in this issue, do some searches for the topic. Go back two or three years, to the time it first began to circulate. You'll find lots of intelligent discussion.
LOLOL!!
Are you seriously saying that DeCosta's letter (NOT "article") is "well-written"?? You haven't actually read it, have you?
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9894956
No going there, and will not be sucked into a debate with people (Jim & Janice) who are here becaused they are hired to do so.
Now I'm afraid that IS libel.
They fail to provide proof that it doesn't exist.
I'm sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. That said, I've never claimed it doesn't exist; my contention is that the real problem is toxic financing, not naked shorting.
As you very well know.
Full of what? As Jim's pointed out, we have a very good track record.
What, exactly, do you mean by "bought-interest".
You're moving closer and close to libel, you know.
Maybe you are, but it is one sad way to make money!!!!
What is?
not sure where I picked this up or to whom it is attributable - but interesting re "cellar boxing." I apologize to the author for losing his/her name.
Interestingly enough, no one has ever known the author's name. Guess he didn't want to take credit for it, given that it doesn't make any sense, and that he just made up the term "cellar boxing".
lol, and of what, exactly, am I "suspected"?
You don't seem to be able to answer Jim's question.
Self-interest? I don't have a dog in this fight. But I do intensely dislike stock scams.
Scarcely, rruff. You need to take a long look in the mirror. You're crude and you're nasty. You make scarcely any substantive posts. And you don't know anything about CMKX.
You just come here now and then and try to take over the board. When people disagree with you, you lose it.
"He's batting 1000" is a colloquialism, rruff. It's intended as hyperbole.
Who's "upset"? I was addressing the subject of your incessant personal attacks.
Guess you still haven't read my post. Bet you haven't read DeCosta's screed either.
Batting average - perfection would be 1.000.
Funny, I've never heard anyone say: "He's batting one".
Oh yes. They reconstitute 'em in hot water and then puree them to use in chili and stews and the like. Or you can just grind them to powder and not bother with the reconstituting.
Oh wait!! I'm sorry!! i misunderstood!! You're referring to Bobo as a "bottom crawling personal attacker"!!
Tell me, rrruff, is "ad hominem" your new favorite phrase? It certainly should be, given that you resort to it when you're unable to rebut an argument.
And Bobo should realize that everyone knows what it means.
Has anyone here ever defended class action ambulance chasers?
Oh, I'm forgetting: you wouldn't know, because you only hit this board occasionally. Obviously you also don't know much about the content of TSX's posts. Even the longs acknowledge that he's been very helpful.
Yes, as long as it's pretty dry where you live. You can dry 'em in a dehydrator, of course, and some people do it in a very low oven.