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Merry Christmas Elfdom and the rest of you as well...May God bless all of you and your loved ones in 2008!
Looks like Serfy has gone dark......Maybe it's the calm before the storm.
Hmmmmmm.....The boardmarks dropped from 67 to 53 overnight. Has someone that just signed-off using multiple aliases?...It certainly looks like it.
I guess all the legal peeps will be back trying to pry information out of people when we get close to another court date....lol.
I just love all these people that show up anonymously with such a deep desire to know what legal action is being taken behind the scenes...LOL.
Do you plan on eating crow if something does happen?...What are you doing about seeing scammers get busted? You seem to be spending plenty of time talking about what everybody else isn't doing...
Gee...most enlightening. I see our boardmarks have crept in the upward direction since I last visited...
Tootaloo,
Stockefeller
I wonder what assets the loan was tied to? Maybe they would be willing to help investors seek justice. It would seem that they should be really upset at the way their investment turned out...
2004-12-01 Telatinos Secures $20 Million Equity Financing
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2004/dec/1097936.htm
For those of you that lost money in this stock, have you reported the details of it to your state security board? Everyone involved should do this as soon as possible...Have a great weekend.
Stockefeller
Breaking News- CEO Busted With Message Board Alias
Whole Foods CEO John Mackey's wacky Web rants
OK, we've always considered Whole Foods CEO and co-founder John Mackey, a man who manages to be both an organic food-loving vegan and a hugely successful anti-union capitalist, to be something of a freak. But now we're wondering how the man ever finds time to sleep. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that for eight years, John Mackey, the CEO and founder of Whole Foods, posted "voluminously" in Yahoo stock market discussion forums under the pseudonym Rahodeb, an anagram of his wife's first name, Deborah.
The news came to light in a Federal Trade Commission filing made available online on Tuesday as part of the FTC's antitrust suit attempting to prevent Whole Foods' proposed purchase of competitor Wild Oats. But the filing only includes one of Mackey's many posts.
Whole Foods says they will open 25 stores in OATS territories in the next 2 years.... The writing is on the wall. The end game is now underway for OATS.... Whole Foods is systematically destroying their viability as a business --market by market, city city.
For the rest, we're left to Google on our own. But it takes mere seconds before you can find yourself reading a post by "Rahodeb" dated May 23, 2003. He starts by responding to another bulletin board participant who has been wondering where he's been lately.
I'm still around observing the chatter. My long-term investment position is intact as is Whole Foods fundamental story. Fluctuations from quarter to quarter are irrelevant to a long-term investor such as myself. Mr. Market's manic/depressive behavior on Whole Foods recently has been interesting to watch but doesn't really matter over the long-term. It was inevitable that Whole Foods same store sales would regress back to their long-term average of 8%. Since the company will be comparing against 10%+ same store sales for the next 3 quarters I don't expect either the comparisons to be very strong (Whole Foods management has guided this way as well) or the stock price to gain very much (unless the stock market itself carries it up with a Bull Market which it might).What is the most interesting thing to me is that Whole Foods is building up its real estate pipeline at a rapid clip. 12 new store leases announced in the last 2 quarters and over 1.2 million sq. ft. of real estate in development. Growth will be accelerating again beginning next year. If the stores in development are good ones (and new leases keep being added at the same rate) then Whole Foods is going to be increasing both its top and bottom lines at a 15% to 20% for the next 5 years. If so, then the stock price will likely double in 4 to 5 years. Good enough for me!
The Journal does not speculate as to whether Mackey might be responsible for any legal wrongdoing in his posts. One assumes that the CEO of a publicly traded company would not be dumb enough to leak insider information on a stock discussion board, or make unmerited forward-looking statements in an effort to pump up Whole Foods stock. But who knows? It's sure hard to imagine any Whole Foods corporate public relations person being anything but horrified at the news that the CEO is bashing competitors and predicting stock prices under a pseudonym out in the wild Internet.
As for the company? The Journal reports that it released "a statement that among millions of documents the company gave the FTC were postings Mr. Mackey made from 1999 to 2006 'under an alias to avoid having his comments associated with the Company and to avoid others placing too much emphasis on his remarks.'"
We'll wait with great anticipation to see where the dust settles on this one. But in the meantime, How the World Works will be evaluating the exuberant rantings of stock promoters on random Internet bulletin boards with a newfound respect. You never know, that could be the CEO frothing at the mouth!
-- Andrew Leonard
It's all about the "F" word Scovvy...FRAUD. Nobody wants to take credit for it though. They didn't mind taking the investors money however.
You seem to ask plenty of questions, but rarely answer any. You claim to want to help the swindled investors... Are you willing to take the witness stand on their behalf to support their case? I have no problem letting people know that I'm an investor in the USA that lost big money based on the revenue PR's issued by the company. What country are you located in? What interest do you have in this matter?
I think Vera should be helped. I think everybody that got scammed by the crooks should be helped....I plan to assist by testifying in court. Are you going to be there?
" Who would ever want to withhold information that could help or at least clarify things..." Like who you are?
"Evidence is still scant..." You've got to be joking, right?
Is it against the law to short your own company? I was just wondering?...
Replevin,
Thanks for the PM. Although I can't reply privately, in time you'll find the answer to your question.
Hi Mick!
Good to see you again. We've got a number of people on the board that claim to want to assist the swindled shareholders in the upcoming BK hearing. I figured that those that had the best of intentions won't mind letting it be known. The others are just here fishing for information to help protect the crooks....JMHO
Since we are into announcing things "PUBLICLY," how many people on this message board plan to VOLUNTARILY be called as witnesses? This should weed out those people who claim to care about the sharholders, but are only here to dig-up information for the defense lawyers...I encourage all who care about the shareholders that lost money to add their names.
1. Stockefeller
I'm begging to be the first witness called to the stand. It's amazing how my buy orders were made after those revenue PR's were released....I look forward to seeing the crook(s) explain all of this.
Someone has a lot of 'splaining to do....lol.
Isn't that why so many people are interested in the shell of a dead company? Some peeps want the money back that they got scammed out of....The scammers are afraid of what will be exposed when the Texas authorities start digging around. I look forward to watching the finger-pointing going on in the courtroom. Nobody wants to take the blame for the fraud, they just wanted to steal the investors money...JMHO
God bless America and happy 4th of July to all of you. The people that orchestrated Telatinos have much more to worry about than Serfdom does IMO. Why not talk about them?....JMHO.
Last time I checked, shareholders have entrusted their money to the people running the company...The officers have a legal responsibilty to act in the best interest of the investors. Some people are going to have a LOT of explaining to do very shortly...JMHO
Looks like the paralegals are here trying to get peeps to show their hands before the court hearing.....LOL.
No hijacked PR's with Telatino's. The "consultant" was burning up the phone with Serfy describing in great detail his business trips to Latin America...Somebody HAS to take the heat for those. They weren't created out of thin air, that's for sure. :)
Lawyers need to subpeona the informaton provided to Investors Hub by the signee, in my opinion. Even then, who's to say someone can't hi-jack the alias of a poster and begin to post derogatory comments?....I would hate to build a case on message board posts. I would prefer to build a case based on press releases issued via a major newswire service. JMHO
"Your Honour....we call our next witness, Serfdom"....lol. I imagine we'll see some funny facial expressions from the judge!
I agree Eveneve...Court will be entertaining to say the least. One side will be quoting anonymous message board posts. The other side will be submitting outlandish revenue PR's issued through one of the major wire services....I wonder who the judge will believe?...
Very strange that some people don't want to see this case investigated. Why won't anybody take responsibility for the wonderfully written revenue PR's in early '05?... I bet MacReport knows who issued them...
How are they going to explain that in BK court? I wonder who will take responsibilty for issuing those PR's?....
Hmmmmm.....it's like a huge bank heist. Who owns the getaway car? We know who the driver was. JMHO
I would hate to be the person(s) responsible for submitting those revenue PR's in early '05...This will get ugly when the cockroaches that have been hiding in the dark are forced to come out in the courtroom lights. I'm glad to be on the right side of the law... JMHO
Interesting you should mention Missouri...I need to go see the Arch this summer. Maybe catch a Cardinals game!
Anyone that wants to assist in seeing justice served, should be sharing their private info with the lawyers...I won't be posting it publicly on a message board. I don't trust anyone on a message board. When a lawfirm is announced, I'll be contacting them...
It will be interesting to see which cockroaches come-out in the light, and which ones remain in the darkness, once a lawfirm is announced...
I'd hate to be the one that wrote those PR's.......FRAUD with a capital "F". Let me know when a law firm is announced representing the company. I'll be wanting to talk with them.
How about news released in the first quarter of 2005?....
Me thinks some people are going to squirm a bit when this little "shell" has a little investigative work done on it's recent history....JMHO
I guess we'll be seeing a court appointed law firm soon....I think I've got some documentation for them.