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Oh yeah digger52 I have a few hundred stories I could tell but it takes a six pack of beer to prime the pump. Of course after three beers I tend to get sleepy and myxingers sfart histing the rong keyd on the kewsburd.
Dennis
Maybe after a good nights sleep LOL.
Dennis
When I first bought NNLX I decided I was in it for the long term. I will lose all of my investment or make it back several times over before I sell. So far I am down about 50% LOL. Ask me about it in two more years.
Dennis
jpklma. . . most of the longs here have had a position in NNLX for several months and some probably years. So far the total value of the NNLX shares I hold are less than when I started buying. When I first bought in I knew this was going to be a long term hold and forget about it type of stock. I know there are some on this board who hold a heckuva lot more shares than I do. The potential for a tremendous payoff is there and if 50,000 shares can turn into a hundred grand in a year or two I will be one happy camper. Why should I buy more? If I should buy more and become a multi-millionaire I would probably turn into a real jerk just like some of the lottery winners I know LOL.
GLTA
Dennis
I think we are overdue for some kind of progress report. Things like construction progress of the Welch's bio-reactor etc.
Dennis
An interesting concept. The site didn't give enough information. The bike they show looks like it is set up for dirt roads rather than urban paved streets. If they are going for the urban commuter market with a design like this they are going to have problems IMO.However it is good to see that someone is working with Hydrogen and two wheeled transportation.
Dennis
Hey digger52 maybe we should talk to Willie G at the Harley factory and tell him about NNLX. I wonder how the Harley SOUND would be changed by using Hydrogen as a fuel? The first thing that came to my mind when thinking about that was the old High School Chemistry experiment where a big football type with a huge bass voice inhaled Helium and sounded like a Chipmonk when he talked LOL. On second thought maybe Willie G would be the absolute last person to try to convince to switch to Hydrogen.
I am an old time Harley rider myself but I am reduced to riding a 900 Kawasaki Vulcan until NNLX does a ten bagger;)
Dennis
While watching the Indy 500 yesterday I just had to think how stagnant the IRL cars have become. The technical advances that the automotive industry has achieved as a result of automotive racing is unbelievable however they are still using engines that were designed over 100 years ago.
The new Hydrogen Racing League may put excitement back into automobile racing. I haven't seen much about this in the news media and with their first 500 mile race scheduled in 2009 time is running short. I think it would be great to see fuel cell and internal combustion engines powered by Hydrogen competing side by side. Maybe Hydrogen powered turbines? Think of the possibilities for innovation in Hydrogen. New types of fuel storage systems, new types of motors, new construction techniques etc. I hope Mr. Barnhizer has some connections in the racing business and NNLX can be a part of this new area of motor sports.
JMHO
Dennis
atco1982. . . it sounds like you assume the ONLY use of Hydrogen is to power motor vehicles. That is just one possible use and it is well into the future. More immediate markets for Hydrogen are using as fertilizer (Ammonia for instance), on site power and as a coolant in many power plants. Many of these uses would not require transport because a Hydrogen bioreactor could be located close by.
To have a future the Hydrogen economy must have thousands of production plants (i.e. NNLX bioreactors) all over the place. Right now gasoline prices are so high in part because of a lack of refining capacity not oil shortages. That mistake must not be repeated in the Hydrogen economy and thanks to the technology NNLX offers it shouldn't.
Dennis
From that link aslfS I got a real laugh. Here in Nebraska we have a surplus of a product commonly called bullsh*t. It sounds like Arkansas has its share of BS in addition to a lot of surplus CS LOL.
Thanks for starting my day off with a bit of humor,
Dennis
OT: digger52. . . I guess God must have something special planned for me because when I was younger I sure did some stupid things and survived.
Dennis
Digger I did a lot of experimenting with different ways to get 4 wheelers and 2 wheelers to go fast during the 1960's and 1970's.
I did more experimenting with Hydrogen Peroxide than I ever did with Hydrogen. My only experience with Hydrogen was to mount a Hydrogen bottle on my 68 Vette with the 435 HP 427 Cu/inch motor. In a post a few months ago I mentioned that I didn't really notice any power increases with the Hydrogen but maybe a bit better fuel mileage and the ability to use lower octane gas. But keep in mind I am not an engineer, just a farm boy with an active imagination and more curiosity than sense.
I was probably lucky to survive my experiments with the surplus Hydrogen Peroxide motor I stumbled across in a military surplus salvage yard. Actually I probably came closer to doing in a couple of my friends than I did myself. I am a rather large fellow so when I mounted that Hydrogen Peroxide rocket engine on a go kart one of my 120 pound friends told me that he could probably get it through the quarter mile a lot faster than I could. I may not have got an A+ in college Physics but I picked up enough to know that my 280 pounds (oh to be skinny again) would take a lot more energy to get up to speed than Gene's 120 pounds. Keep in mind the go kart didn't have any brakes to speak of and no parachute. Actually we didn't think it would get up to 60 mph. In my primitive calculations I figured the amount of Hydrogen Peroxide we had would give us a burn time of about 10 seconds. In our first test run (and last) Gene strapped on his motorcycle helmet and the jury rigged harness and we lit off the motor. The first 1/8 mile he was already going faster than we thought he would. At the end of the quarter mile the rocket was still lit. We don't know how fast he was going when he hit the sand traps at the end of the strip and the motor flamed out but it was fast enough that the kart had tried to bury itself in the big sand pile at the end. Gene didn't have a scratch on him but I'll guarantee I would have if he would have been fast enough to catch up with me before I locked myself in the chase truck. It took almost a case of beer before he saw the humor in the whole incident. I never found another volunteer to drive the kart and it just wasn't large enough for me to squeeze my body into it. I did try my luck at mounting it on a 12 foot Jon Boat but that just didn't work out besides that pure Hydrogen Peroxide can eat into a limited budget big time. I found another adventuresome fellow that gave me enough money to convince me to sell that engine. I decided I wasn't cut out to be a rocket scientist.
IF NNLX can find a way of converting sewage sludge to Hydrogen in an economical way that would be a tremendous technology. Although there are probably hundreds of food processing plants similar to Welch's in the USA the number of waste water treatment plants is probably 100 times as great. Imagine several thousand WWTP's generating Hydrogen from sewage! Now that would be a GREEN machine. Green as in the color of money plus GREEN as in good for the environment!
JMHO
Dennis
That was just my opinion new83. I don't have any link to back it up, just a "gut" feeling.
Dennis
It looks like the weather in Western Pennsylvania may be a bit better in the next few weeks. Hopefully construction of the proposed bio-reactors can start and be completed soon. Our gasoline prices here in Lincoln, Nebraska are getting close to three bucks again ($2.89 my last fill). When the prices approach $4.00 this summer alternative energy will be in the headlines again.
Dennis
My bones are aching. Usually that means there is a change just around the corner. Will that be a positive PR from NNLX this week? Gosh I sure do hope so.
Dennis
parents I took this from the Yahoo financial news.
"NanoLogix has assigned the rights to 11 patents and licensed the rights to 18 others to Nutra Pharma for use in diagnostic test kit development. NanoLogix retains a license for the nanotechnology aspects of the assigned patents and the rights to all nanotechnology aspects of the licensed patents. In exchange for this licensing and assignment, Nanologix receives the greater of either a 6% royalty on gross sales or a significant annual guarantee"
The 6% of gross sales sounds terrific. I just wonder what the amount of the significant annual guarantee is? Is there some kind of confidentiality agreement that would prohibit NNLX from releasing that number?
Just curious,
Dennis
A dollar amount on this royalty payment would be nice.
Dennis
The interest in Hydrogen and other alternative sources of energy are directly tied to the price of oil and Natural Gas. When those price go down so does interest in alternative energy and vice versa. I predict we will see gasoline priced over $4.00 sometime during the summer. When that happens interest will be focused on Hydrogen again. It is too bad our citizens (and leaders) are so easily manipulated. IMO a Manhattan type project is needed to make the USA energy independant but it will never happen.
Dennis
parents. . . I am about 90% certain that the share price of a stock has to close at EOD at $4.00/$5.00 for 90 days before it can list on NASDAQ. There are other financials that have to be met also and things like BOD members and certain officers. I think the $1.00 delisting price is probably right although if delisted because of share price I don't think it is quite as difficult to get a relisting again.
I think we will be listed on the OTC:BB boards before anything on the NASDAQ. Even a listing on the OTC:BB's will be a huge move forward. A NASDAQ listing would be the ultimate.
JMHO
Dennis
Oh Yes that would be great NNLX being on the NASDAQ but in order for it to happen there are several conditions that must be met. Probably the most important is a share price of over $5.00 for 90 days if I remember correctly. That would mean a 3000% or more increase from todays price LOL! I would love that but I can't see it happening for at least another year.
Eventually though,
Dennis
Remove Carbon Dioxide from the atmosphere? Ever heard of trees? This whole Global Warming caused by Man issue could be turned around by planting more trees. Try "tree credits" instead of "Carbon Credits".
Dennis
Think microbes, bacteria or beasties as we called them back in the last century when I was taking MicroBiology as a College student. That is the main business of NanoLogix, finding new uses for the little beasties. Some of those uses may be in the field of medicine. Why is that? Mainly because a lot of human and animal diseases are caused by bacteria and other Microbes. However not all bacteria are harmful and cause diseases. If it wasn't for Bacteria we wouldn't have food like cheese, saurkraut and most of our adult beverages. Finding new ways to harness the capabilities of these Microbes is going to create all kinds of opportunities in the future. With the advances in technology to observe these Microbes and do more and more experimentation companies like NNLX will be finding many new business applications.
Exciting times for bug watchers are ahead.
Dennis
Question aslfs. I see the name James Kennedy on that form. Does he have any NNLX connections other than having shares bought through the investment company he represents? I seem to remember a Kennedy mentioned in documents about NNLX I researched earlier, but I'm not sure if it is the same Kennedy.
Looking over the holdings of that company NanoLogix stands out like a tree in the desert. . . most of the companies I saw on that list are huge companies trading on the bigger boards. A pink sheet company on a list like this says something. Very few funds will invest in companies on the Pink Sheets unless they think that company has a great future ahead of it. At least that is the conclusion I am drawing from this.
Dennis
IMO selling now would be a big mistake. Have you noticed gasoline prices are creeping up again? The average price here in Lincoln, Nebraska was $2.69 per gallon over the weekend. Hydrogen will be big in the news again later in the summer when gasoline prices edge up towards $4.00. The public has very short memories and when gasoline prices go down the attention of the Public focuses on other issues. NNLX will move up with the rise in gasoline prices. Hopefully the bio-reactor in PA can be up and running before summers end and real world field testing can begin.
Dennis
OT: I know a little bit of humor at times helps. Click on the link and listen up. Absolutely nothing to do with NNLX but I hope you enjoy it.
Dennis
I for one am glad the medical and Hydrogen parts of NNLX are still under one roof. I wouldn't be a bit suprised to see some significant revenues start coming in from the medical patents in the next year. It may be a longer wait for any real positive cash flows come in from the Hydrogen end of the business. That doesn't necessarily mean that the share price of NNLX is going to stay under a quarter until Hydrogen revenues start coming in. I think every shareholder realizes that NNLX is still in the R&D phase of the Hydrogen business. One or two improvements resulting in production increases of the Hydrogen bio-reactors could drive share prices upwards in a hurry. Another breakthrough would be being able to produce commercial quantities of Hydrogen from waste streams like sewage treatment plants, cattle feedlots and garbage dumps etc.
The revenues from the medical part may provide the funding needed to move Hydrogen technologies forward with out further dilution. . . at least I hope it plays out that way.
Dennis
Something happened on the stock market today at about 3:00Pm EST. Did something bad happen somewhere in the World that we haven't heard of? It will be interesting to watch the major indexes tomorrow.
Dennis
I just read the Feb.20th PR about the Provisional Patent Application for the treatment of sepsis using a special silver coated nanotube device. More than ever I am glad that we as shareholders are going to benefit from having a share of both the medical and Hydrogen technologies. If this new medical procedure can be proven effective in preventing and treating infection it is going to be very huge indeed. The only thing about this is the time frame it takes for any medical procedures to be approved by our FDA. In many cases it takes two years or longer to even get clinical trials approved. If this testing is done solely in the USA it may be five years before we see any revenues coming in to NNLX. Hopefully some off shore testing can be done to speed things along.
Congratulations to Mr. Barnhiser and Mr. Allen for their appointments to the board. A good move for all of us shareholders IMO.
Dennis
I sure wouldn't want to see NNLX using a business plan to take advantage of the current hysteria over the Global Warming brouhaha. I think the whole issue of Global Warming is full of junk science on both sides. There does seem to be a consensus that we are experiencing Global Warming but is this just a natural cycle or has it been brought on by industrial activities of the Human Race?
There is no doubt that we have caused a lot of problems with both water & air pollution. What really makes me mad in the whole argument is that the United States is the country that gets the blame for the whole problem.There is plenty of blame to go around. China is building thousands of coal powered power plants. India is doing the same. How many millions of tropical forests have been cleared in S. American and Asian countries in the past 30 years? How about African countries? Nigeria, South Africa and other countries on that continent have polluted some of the most pristine Wilderness on the planet. There is plenty of blame to go around for the whole issue of pollution.
There is no doubt that we need to stop this water and air pollution however if it is really true that Global Warming is caused by a natural cycle of our Sun and Earth, mankind will not be capable of solving the problem. But hey isn't it better to live on a clean planet even if it is a few degrees warmer?
One thing is for sure: the technology that NNLX is researching will make the Earth a cleaner and better place to live.
JMHO
Dennis
I haven't seen the episodes yet but hopefully they will be shown again. I am planning on watching Wednesdays show though. That should be good.
Currently I am watching the Daytona 500. I have always loved car racing and I don't think the general public realizes just how much the racing industry has improved not only the safety of our modern cars but the efficiency and reliability. Although racing has made big strides in braking, crash protection etc. in the past ten years truly outstanding innovations in the engines has been stifled. That may change if the new Hydrogen powered cars racing league takes off. IF this is promoted properly the development time required for bringing the true Hydrogen automobile to the public will be shortened by decades.
As I am watching the Daytona 500 one thing that I am really going to miss with the Internal Combustion engine is the ROAR of the motors!. With fuel cell powered cars the engine noise levels will be history. However it may be even more exciting to listen to the screamming of the tires when they are in a four wheel drift sliding through the corners at 200+ miles per hour. It may be even better! Whatever I hope it is successful because Hydrogen powered racing cars will be the greatest thing that could happen to NNLX and others in the Hydrogen business.
JMHO,
Dennis
Do any of you know how much snowfall Erie, PA has had this winter? It may be next August before it all melts LOL.
Dennis
I haven't seen "Inconvenient Truth". I will probably see it when our local library gets a copy of it on DVD. I have talked to several folks at the local coffee shop that have seen it and it has been the topic of some heated debates. Since I haven't seen it I won't comment on its content. When I see it I will.
Dennis
You are probably right PetroDrlgEngineer. If Welch's can use the bioreactor to generate 100% of the electricity they need that would be a lot of money saved. Any surplus would be pure profit. Same goes for any other businesses.
Dennis
Tradefm. . .yes I would think that Hydrogen powered forklifts could be used in food plants and warehouses. I visited a lot of food and other types of warehouses when I was in the trucking business. Propane and electric forklifts were the norm in most of these operations. Carbon monoxide was the big concern more than contamination but when operated in warehouses with roof heights of 40 feet or more CO is not much of a hazard. Exhaust fumes from propane, diesel and gasoline could taint food so as a rule they use electric. In the case of an internal combustion engine using Hydrogen there would not be any Carbon Monoxide emitted and unless the forklift motor used excessive quantities of oil, contamination of food should be no problem.
As far as cost of a Hydrogen powered forklift, a fuel cell powered rig is going to cost more currently but as more and more of them are made the costs of production will come down significantly I imagine. The conversion kits that convert a typical Internal Combustion engine to Hydrogen probably won't cost a whole helluva lot and those costs will come down also. When Hydrogen can be produced for less than double the cost of gasoline/diesel there will be a huge market for it.
As far as costs of the P.E.M fuel cells. The manufacturing of these do not require nearly as much precision machining as current IC engines. The big costs in Fuel Cells are the membranes and catalysts that must be layered onto them in just the precise applications. As new manufacturing methods are developed the cost of them will be reduced dramatically in years to come.
JMHO
Dennis
I agree with you about the part where stationary engines will probably be the initial use of the converted engines nmbr1stkpkr. However when the move to Hydrogen powered motor vehicles is started the BEST place to start will be in the delivery fleets. Companies like the U.S. Postal Service, FedEx and UPS ground fleets etc. For the most part they operate out of hubs with their smaller pickup and delivery vehicles staying in a radius of less than 100 miles of their assigned local hub. They do operate large over the road vehicles also but for the most part they run relays from one hub to another. Typically these relays are close to the maximum distance that the Department of Transportation (D.O.T.) allows a driver to drive in one day. Oftentimes the relay is a turnaround so the drivers can be home everyday. The reason I think Hydrogen will be more readily accepted in these types of fleet operations is the fact that fueling stations can be precisely located where they will be needed. Locations of the bioreactors need to be close to these refueling hubs obviously. If the technology can be developed by NNLX to use sewage as the feed product for their bioreactors, every city of 50,000 or more people could probably provide the sewage needed for the NNLX bioreactors.
This type of operation would probably be doable within two to three years to take care of stationary and fleet operations. The infrastructure to fuel the 180 million plus vehicles in the U.S.A with Hydrogen is going to take a lot longer than that. For those reasons I think stationary and fleet operations are the first and second markets that NNLX should pursue.
Dennis
Tadefm. . . I assume you are referring to the news of converting a few engines over to using Hydrogen. Without more details I don't know what to think.
I don't know just how NNLX plans to market these Hydrogen conversion units but if I were the one in charge of it here is how I would go about doing it.
First you need a good source of the appropriate waste water stream to supply the Hydrogen bioreactors. With a company like Welch's they have products that need to be shipped from their plant. If Weich's has their own fleet of delivery trucks it would be great if they could use the newly converted Hydrogen engines in this delivery fleet. I don't know what kind of range these first generation delivery trucks will be capable of. When you draw a circle with a 300 mile radius around Erie, PA you have an area that contains one heckuva lot of people.
By locating Hydrogen bioreactors wihin overlapping concentric circles of about 150 to 200 miles of each other a fleet of trucks could cover a large percentage of the whole NorthEastern United States. Going after the types of businesses that have the waste water stream to generate the Hydrogen for these fleets of trucks would be my first step.
IF NNLX can use sewage waste water in their Hydrogen bioreactors it would be possible to have an interlocking grid up and running in just a matter of months if enough businesses like Welch's can be brought on board. Fleet sales will be the key to success in the adoption of Hydrogen in motor vehicles IMHO. Stationary engines will probably be a bigger market in the near future.
If I was in upper management at NNLX after getting the Welch's bioreactor in place and producing my next step would be getting a demonstration plant using sewage online. Hopefully a lot of these projects can be worked on simultaneously. Getting the engines converted over to Hydrogen for a fleet of Hydrogen powered trucks and having bioreactors ready to power them with enough Hydrogen to power them when they are ready should be high on the priority list. It is going to take a lot of effort and planning and require a good team from top to bottom.
I would suggest talking to some of the folks involved in the Hydrogen racing effort about possibly using NNLX bioreactors to supply the Hydrogen for their racing efforts. That would be anadvertising coup woth millions to NNLX if it could be pulled off.
I would like to be a fly on the wall at NNLX corporate headquarters in the next couple of years.
Dennis
I copied and pastedthis article directly from this mornings PRNewsire.com website. Pay special attention to the line that says, " Hydrogen must be supplied from renewable resources". Would any of you know of a company that MIGHT be able to do this?
Dennis
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The Hydrogen Electric Racing Federation(TM) Announces Its Initial Specifications Package for 'The Future of Racing'
Innovative new racing series will boast the most technologically advanced
racing machines in the world.
DETROIT, Feb. 7 /PRNewswire/ -- The Hydrogen Electric Racing Federation
-- which unveiled "The Future of Racing"(TM) and the "Hydrogen 500"(TM)
concept here to an impressive gathering of leading auto industry executives
and motorsports dignitaries in early January -- has announced its initial
specifications package.
Introduced as a compelling first step into the realm of on-track
competition for hydrogen electric fuel cell-powered vehicles, the Hydrogen
Electric Racing Federation will boast the most technologically advanced
racing machines in the world when competition begins in May 2009 -- just
two years from now -- with the "Hydrogen 500"(TM).
"We have developed a set of specifications for the HERF racers that
will limit expenditures for the participating manufacturers within reason
on certain essential systems," said Peter M. DeLorenzo, the President and
CEO of the Hydrogen Electric Racing Federation. "But make no mistake -- our
intent is not to strangle ingenuity, but to encourage it. Each manufacturer
will be free to express their individual creativity and innovative ideas
any way they see fit. As a matter of fact, we encourage it. We feel this
element of 'blue sky' thinking will be a crucial component to the appeal of
the HERF racing machines -- and The Future of Racing."
"The concept of racing hydrogen fuel cell-powered machines is
unprecedented and historic, simply because for the first time in many, many
years, racing will undertake a key role in the development of radical new
technologies for production vehicles that are still on the horizon,"
DeLorenzo added.
The HERF racers will be closed-wheel machines with an on-track
footprint similar in dimension to but not exceeding those currently used by
sports car prototype racers. Key specifications include:
- Weight: 900 kg (minimum)
- Construction: Manufacturers' choice
- Aerodynamic Devices: Allowed (although they cannot be movable or touch
the track surface)
- Suspension, Steering, Brakes, Controls: Manufacturers' choice
- Power: 300kw/400 hp (minimum)
- Battery Type: Manufacturers' choice
- On-Board Hydrogen (compressed gas at 10,000 psi): Limited to 8 kg
- Tires: One size package for oval tracks, one size package for road-
racing circuits
- Fuel: One manufacturer, to specification (from renewable resources)
- Projected Lap Speed (at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway): 185mph+
"I believe it is time to press the 'reset' button for racing," said
DeLorenzo. "Not only to usher in a new era of creativity and innovation to
the sport, but also to enable racing to take its rightful place again as
the principal conduit for the transference of advanced technologies and
innovations directly to our future production vehicles. The onset of the
electrification of the automobile is presenting us with a rare, perhaps
once- in-a-lifetime opportunity to accelerate the development schedule of
the hydrogen electric fuel cell-powered vehicle, while at the same time
allowing us to reinvent and reposition the sport of racing to be more
relevant than it has been in decades."
The Hydrogen Electric Racing Federation plans on presenting on-track
competition for electric vehicles powered by hydrogen fuel cells beginning
in 2009, with additional races, including international events in 2010 and
2011.
Hydrogen Electric Racing Federation. The Hydrogen Electric Racing
Federation(TM) (HERF(TM)) is a new racing organization dedicated to helping
the world's leading automobile manufacturers accelerate the development of
hydrogen fuel cell-powered electric vehicles through sanctioned
competition.
The concept behind the Hydrogen Electric Racing Federation is to
provide a competitive arena in which manufacturers can push the envelope of
hydrogen fuel cell-powered electric vehicle technology, enabling racing to
take its rightful place again as the principal conduit for the transference
of advanced technologies and innovations directly to our future production
vehicles.
The Hydrogen Electric Racing Federation aims to help the world's
leading automobile manufacturers (and their suppliers) promote hydrogen
fuel cell- powered electric vehicle technology as not only The Future of
Racing, but as a glittering showcase for the future of transportation.
SOURCE Hydrogen Electric Racing Federation
How about figuring the hidden costs of using Petroleum? Things like the Billion$$$ spent keeping oil shipping routes open. Sending our US taxpayer dollars to countries who help fund terrorism.
Ethanol from corn is temporary but it sure is a better deal than sending our money to countries that want to destroy us. Let them eat their damn oil. We will turn corn into energy and they can eat sand.
Dennis
I won't be able to attend. It would be nice if at least part of the meeting could be setup on an online Conference Call with phone and internet monitoring.
Dennis
The PR part about converting Internal Combustion engines didn't say that the engines were installed in automobiles. It is more likely that they will be converting a few stationary engines to using Hydrogen. Here in farm country about 90% or more of our irrigation engines are Diesel powered. Many of those farmers would love to convert to Hydrogen if it will save them money.
Dennis