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I do feel bad for the bears in here. I can understand that if they had purchased share in 2014, 1 billion shares would now be 1 single share. I can see that many have lost a lot of money in here in the last 2 years, but the reality (facts) is that we are at the turn around point for this company. Do I agree with them burning shareholders in the past, no, but they had to do what they could to stay in business. Imagine this, you work on an idea, invest a lot of money on it to get patented and companies just start to steal it and use it. There is no way they could have survived without doing what they did (which was to take toxic loans and pay with diluted stock). They had to pay lawyer's fees to do the work to win/settle lawsuits. The Microsoft lawsuit was the key point for the turnaround, If anyone cannot see that they are just clouded by their hatred of past experiences with this company. The fact is that the 10K showed them using the lawsuit money to pay off debt. If this was a "scam" they would have no reason to pay off the debt. This is my opinion. good luck and Go SFOR!
Just added 100k more shares at .0041 to make an even 1million shares. Go SFOR! Thx for the cheapies!
SFOR stock movement = explosion potential of a penny stock with the stability of a big cap stock. I dig it, low volatility, moves on real news (not BS PnD)
He is a patent lawyer not a stock market investor. His priorities are not related to buying or selling stock. He did not say he would or would not buy. I strictly asked him about the patent itself and he gave me his personal opinion, which I trust since he was my best man at my wedding. If he though that was anything fishy about it, he definitely would said something to me.
Is anything guaranteed? no but the risk/reward here is good in my opinion. But even with that many won't take the risk even with all the evidence given.
I spoke to a good friend of mine over the weekend who happens to be a patent lawyer. I showed him SFOR patent and I explained the situation. He took a quick look at it, he notice that the patent has a lot of individual claims which he said is a good thing. Basically he said the defendants would have to prove they are not infringing on every single one of those claims if they would have any chance to win against SFOR. (disclaimer: this was his personal opinion and not an advice as a lawyer on the law or outcome of lawsuit)
MMs in full force trying t get cheap share right before lawsuit settlement. The drop from .0046 to .0042 had only a 1 million share volume. Total manipulation attempt going on here, but we know better, my shares are locked for lots of $$$$$ in the near future. Go SFOR!
I agree! Please, this totally should be a sticky.
Here is my view on why we are not exploding like other stocks in pennyland. Most of those stocks "explode" on BS PRs, usually when Toxic debt/note holders want to unload their shares (via dilution) creating the famous PnD situation. Reality is that, this stock no longer has those toxic debt/note holders, so this stock now will move on actual relevant news and not on BS PR. Yes there still some manipulation done by MMs (it is pennyland after all) but it is minimal and if you look overall we keep going higher little by little, this shows to me that people are buying and holding.
I think all these companies are waiting results on the 3 lawsuits before offering a buyout for SFOR. Once we settle/win these lawsuits, the bigger security companies will see the validation of SFOR patents (which we know of it, but can only be truly validated by the results of the lawsuits)At that point I think we can start to consider a buyout as a real option. Also another possibility is that it could happen in the settlement with one of the 3 companies. Overall it is looking very promising. Hold your shares! Go SFOR!
If you don't realize that the moves this stock will make is based on results of settlements, 10qs then you should move on to other stocks. This is a real company with real products/patents, not some BS OTC stock full of note holders/toxic debts and dilution that moves up and down for no reason. This is a buy and hold kind of stock.
What a beast. Every time this drops a few points, the shares get gobbled up and moves right back to its base. This stock is so strong. They can try to manipulate but all they are doing is providing an opportunity for longs to add more shares. I never seen an OTC stock this freaking stable. Go SFOR!
I am not saying it is not. But in my opinion this company will make a lot more money via enterprise/oem deals. Retail to me is icing on the cake.
I do hope Mark plans on doing some buyback with part of the settlement money from all the lawsuits.
It is so funny how some people here are so hung up on the commercial. Of all the exciting things going on with SFOR, the commercial to me is the least important. This company will make a lot more money from lawsuits/enterprise deals then from retail sales.
Seems to be a pacer update from today
That is what it sounds like. Will try to load up some more shares tomorrow.
Wow that is awesome, get ready!
in a month you will wish you had way more in the .0045s. do not sweat the daily churning
some impatient people with 100%+ returns already could be selling, no biggie, this thing pops right back when it drops. so many people want to buy this in the mid to high .0030s
also very low volume on the drops, so I would not worry either.
are you serious??? have you seen their 10q. It is a mess, all negative everywhere. this will be soon at no bid/.0001
if you put an order for .0038 and someone sells his/her shares to you at your price. basically they hit the bid, which means that is shows as a sell instead of hitting the ask. that is my understanding.
People asking why didn't Microsoft buy Strikeforce? Maybe because Microsoft is not interested in being in that section of cyber security. Maybe it was offered but they didn't think it was worth to their business plan. Remember, Microsoft is not an investment company, It is a business. With that said, just because Microsoft didn't buy Strikeforce does not mean their patents do not have any value. It does, and you will all see when the next 3 lawsuits settle. Go SFOR!
A settlement in my opinion will be of a somewhat meet us in the middle deal. So they could drop the treble part and get 1/3 of the lump sum + royalties. That is why I can see a 9-10mil + royalties. That would be an amazing result for us, but if peoples expectation are much higher, that can turn out negative (in the short run)
I would prefer settlement to be royalties in perpetuity more than a single lump sum of money. I don't like everyone's expecting 25-30mil to even some saying 100mil. That was the same with the Microsoft settlement and people were disappointed at the 9.5mil. I will take 10mil from each + royalties.
added another 125k to my total shares at .0041. Go SFOR!
Any investment is a risk/reward chance. I do not disagree with your post anymore then I would agree with posts in here from people excited about the opportunities. The way I view it (and that is simply my own opinion) is that it seems like the company is finally turning things around, are they out of the dirt yet?, not truly, many things still can go wrong, just like with any other company trying to turn a ship around. But there are some catalysts that could really be rewarding and with some descent cash on hand, at this time there is a nice window to safely invest in the risk/reward fact here. That is how I view it. Glty
All my shares are locked up at $10/share. Go SFOR!
I also got some dry powder ready to be used in case some lunatic decides to dump his/her shares below .0040.
thanks! added another 200k @.0039
what kind of wall are we looking at at .0044?
Another $100K in consolidation trading day. Very nice, added some more powder and had an order ready for .0035 in case we had some long selling like yesterday but it didn't happen. Well will stay on the lookout too keep increasing position on any dips. Go SFOR!
My opinion, we can't compare this stock to other pinkies. Reality is that most big moves on those happened so that MMs and note holders can get their money out at a nice profit. Usually some BS PR then the pump, then they dump it. It has happened here before due to this stock being in that situation. But now it is no longer in that situation. This stock will move slowly up (some days down) but the trend will be up and when the real news (not BS PR)comes (lawsuits/commercials/new deals/buyout)it will move it to the next level.
My expectation is that as we win/settle lawsuits. Mark will use a small portion of the wins to buyback some shares (after paying debts), therefore increasing the PPS and making it more attractive for a buyout.
I feel like all the bearish arguments made here are based on totally ignoring what just happened in the last quarter with this company. Yes guys those arguments had some merit 3 months ago. but since then and looking at the 10q, you guys need to accept that the company is now in the up swing of the turn around. Stop looking at it as to what happened 3-6months to a year ago. I know some of you probably got hit really hard, but now it is time to put your ego away, be logic and start making some money. Go SFOR!
you know what it hurts? looking at this stock price and not being able to buy more due to being out of powder. I have a descent amount of shares but want more! Go SFOR!
Great catch Zpaul. That to me spells settlement coming. Very good. Go SFOR
added more too. and still got some more cash left in case of a end of the day dip.
This is what SFOR investors are investing in sfor for. Look at Walmart buying a company like jet.com (out of NJ by the way ;) ) this is a business loosing money but for Walmart it is probably about the algorithm that jet.com has to offer. SFOR has valuable patents that one of the big companies might want to buy as part of their long plan in the security environment. This is why I invested in SFOR.
You have to remember that a lot of people had shares in the .000s in here. Many will unload for 200/300/400% gains specially if the stock feels volatile. Many other are holding for more, but the reason the stock has not go back to the .005s is because many people holding in the .000s will take profits before it can reach those numbers again. At the same time the stock has held well from that huge drop and still sitting in the high 20s. which shows the power it still has (due to news coming up in the next few weeks)
So you are already counting as a loss before the trial even starts. Of course there are risks. But isn't that what the whole investing is (specially down here in the pinkies) risk/reward can be huge here. So take your chances, but the same way some already counts us winning (which is wrong since trials have not started yet) you cannot count us loosing yet either.
Alright. Last time it went to .0041 and dropped to .0008. This time it went to .0055 and dropped to .0018. We are making higher lows and higher highs. Thx for the opportunity to grab some more shares at .0021 (actually double my position and lowered my average). See you all in penny land.