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I read this and I agree. Thanks Buddy!
Hi Marlin, somebody did mention on this board a while back having contacted the SEC and was basically told they are short-staffed and Cyclone was too small a fish to bother with.
The biggest piece of investment money in Cyclone just disappeared into "General and Administrative" expenses. They've never broken down that spending, but after reading every financial report Cyclone has put out the only place I found it could have gone to was a services contract with Schoell Marine, Harry Schoell's private company.
For example, Cyclone shareholders paid premium rent to lease the entire Schoell Marine building, but every photo taken in the place shows boat building and boat repair always took up most of the building. It wouldn't be at all surprising to find that "Cyclone" employees had been doing Schoell Marine work, with Schoell Marine pocketing the extra profit. And who knows what Schoell Marine charged to provide labor to Cyclone. The $10 per hour boat washers at Schoell Marine might have been billed out to Cyclone at $100 per hour.
It's just really hard to reconcile the tens of millions that Cyclone spent with how little they have now.
Cyclone itself has no assets and lots of debt. The money that Harry Schoell and Frankie Fruge took out of the company no doubt has been put in places that would be hard to reach. A lawsuit would be extremely expensive, especially as it would have to be proven that the executives and board of directors (including some independent directors) intended fraud and not that they were just poor managers and ignorant inventors.
The fact that Cyclone swindled so many small investors (e.g., $65 million over 5000 people is $13,000 each) means it's unlikely there are enough with deep enough pockets to fund a lawsuit.
I was once told the first thing they teach in law school is "Don't sue a poor person". Even winning a suit would just start the battle to find and get the assets.
1/2 BILLION shares trade BID $0.0001...LOL SCAM. pump and dump 101.
$13 Million in debt. Float is 270 Million...not 2 as advertised here.
Yepson is the new product. Not pocketfinder. Go to Apple or Amazon for proof. Investors here were duped. Pump and Dump then take tech and build skybell.
In 2007 and 2009 CYPW claimed to have "a family of market ready products". We now know that was fraud. The SEC was contacted. Some website changes and stop filings for a long time. The insiders are very old and lack finances worth chasing. That doesn't excuse the lies and deceit over the past 12 years. Like pirates of the penny stocks. Chris Nelson puts shells together all the time. The consultants were not for anything but placing stock for cash. Pump and dump strategy for all these years. The fake motors are only part of this scam. The travel and spending for instance. Why go to Bonneville each year at great expense to investors? Why the high pay for zero results? No one has the proper education or exp. Old man says " I'm just getting started"...that should warn all. This is just a planned failure.
Total trade volume today....$20. Scam is almost complete failure as per harry and fruge planned failure. 5,000 common shareholders.
Criminal !!!!! Fraud from 2007 forward. 6 Billion shares auth. And as per fil. Already over sold shares due to debt adjustments.
Again the SEC req. fil. WILL BE LATE..!! As per always.=SCAM
Experts @ UofO(CARS)deleted 60%(harry's design) Added back by harry $ fruge...amounts to a "planned failure" for profiting off 5,000 duped investors who now learn $65 MILLION wasted for harry's EGO!!!
harry schoell cocktail napkin physics have ALWAYS boasted how their 11 years of constant claims as to running a series of mark-5s to propel large cruise ships and locomotives, and even power plants on the grid. So, why the need for say mark-6 and now mark 10 ???
All with that fabulouse schoell cycle. You know steal the rankine design and add goofy mods. Water lube is to silly to believe. Perhaps if harry and fruge had say an education in this field?? I do not. Nor grammer and so forth. My career has been investing, and this is a long running SCAM.
Current SP. is $0.0001 WAY overpriced! And according to the last SEC fil. Cypw is now Over the 6 billion auth. shares. According to the shares owed to cover all the old derivative debt adjustments cypw must cover.
Early SCAM "we just need $10 MILLION"..now $65 MILLION later....
"Oh we've never had the sufficient funding." " we have a family of market ready "products".circa 2007.
Simply spouting % numbers with zero basis is PUMPING! Making for the assumption as to having the math equation that would lead to such assumption. Buddy's posts clearly prove you are just spouting numbers to pump this OBVIOUS scam.
CURRENT BID...$0.0001...HA HA lol
cypw has NO turbine or solar array, or trough. Posts don't make sense and cypw has no cents. Period. Just SCAM pumping gibberish !!
50% CRASH told ya it was a scam.
4 Judgements. several delinquency lawsuits, bank overdrawn, Rents overdue, no working anything, 6 billion shares aauth. 3 billion already out. no engineering degree, no proof of concept, 14 years of lying about having engines running on water. foolish really.
Were 2007 CLAIMS of "market ready" "family" of water engines LIES?
YES and again in 2009. A complete FRAUD!!!
OOhhh big news shares crash 50% $0.0001 now the new high. ha ha ha ha..it fell as far as any stock can....zero is next...ha ha ha flynn it. LOL
Reminder: fruge filed "cypw will be utilizing block-chain technology
Is that in Bakersfield too? Who knew that local to be such aa tech hub. Silicon valley watch out....LOL...scam period.
hey there notsure you claim yur a longtime bagholder.....so you may remember how the past subsids have played out for the holders of class C common stocks. reminder, WHR, Whe-Gen, and WSR and LSR..tell us how the bagholders made out on that WHE that U of O designed and built. yes all the way to the bank...LOL keep em coming I love to laugh.
Notforsure....You do not realize the go green is 81% of the LSR car not cypw. I laugh at you. You are pumping a car body , no engine, never ran....and LIE after Lie about the running coming soon. SCAM
CYPW burned through $65 MILLION in 12 years.$1 million per year for 12 years isn't half the current burn rate. The new direction away from steam to solar cypw will burn at least twice as much per year. see SEC fin. fil. for proof !!!!!!!
Only annoying to a paid PUMPER!!! Those in the know find truth and facts,and countering the lying insiders hyping this 14 year old S C A M,,, REFRESHING !!!! scam...SCAM...CON harry and fruge are bold liars and cons.
Tom is correct. Notforsure, try reading the SEC filings for proof only 3 patents are current or valid. Notice recent PR sez patent pending. Pending ain't squat. Harry lost patent lawsuits before. With 4 lawyers in MI.
Big Deal covers ONLY 50% of current operating losses. And the deriv. debt interest is HUGE and growing. steam failed let's try solar harry exclaims !!!
1/3 BILLION shares trade, price goes NOWHERE !!! pump and dump.
So, hey Buddy!! That other energy scam was dr. Andrea Rossi. Sold $10 million for rights to LENR to industrial heat llc. Well a lawsuit for $11 million was settled out of court, and all gizmo junk went back to original con rossi. Harry contacted rossi. Rossi didn't respond. 2 crackpots selling hopium. GLTY
Javiar=20%, Chad=8% + 80% of LSR=Liquidation by fruge and harry!
In 2007 & 2009 harry $ fruge CLAIMED to already have a "FAMILY OF PRODUCTS" " ready for commercialization"!! that is FRAUD and this A SCAM !! period. TOM, CHUCK, and BUDDY are 100% accurate. This has always been a scam. Hence why they don't need to be bothered with reality. They need not adapt to truth, when lying has worked for them all these 12 years.
If you want to know who the new 7% owner is go to 10K he is a lender...and consultant for ten grand a month. ha ha ha...LOL paper hanging scam
Restructure this quarter !! The mighty flynn man. Bagholders get a BK, or severe reverse split. so wash the debts in BK excluding the new preffie shares. wash, rinse, spin, and viola a new corp. shell with no product. but new shares to sell. reminder sec fil. sez a new sub...so bye bye investors. whe-gen again. harry and fruge sure
conned the 5,000 victims who hold worthless paper. Sure they will say it was needed to save the world. with that bs engine design and water lube. LOL ha haa ha. sad scam.
skyrocket up 100% on $50. trade, LOL ha ha SCAM Pump and Dump.101
Today's grand total for trades=$18.20 cheers cycloners 6 billion shares all sold or spoken for on fair value conversion. now new subs announced for the future. Common shares totally worthless.
Tom is right. But the Q states clearly the insiders have no obligation to the investors. Not in the monetary sense. Not in the disclosure or production of results. Nor completing anything. Not any prototype, results or product. So that with the fact the 6 billion shares are already insufficient to cover the fair value conversions set forth in the deriv. agreements. Add to that the judgements and debt in delinquency. So harry and fruge have been double dipping the extreme pay due them on demand drawing high interest payment to schoell marine. Multiplied by claims for personal loans to cyclone that seem to be thin air, are circlejerk accounting. They don't have the big volume of shares sold to payout the payments to themselves hugely....like before...early on. But still they claim skin in the game. nope. double pay and grab what they can. While the assets dwindle away.....like schoell marine. Howz that huge boat build going??? 12 years so far...LOL
Not current on debt. Bills go unpaid delinquent and loans and judgements. New sub and schoell marine is where all the stock sales go.
Well the 10Q is in and stinkin up the place. Emerging Power Solutions Inc. The new escape hatch for the grail=mark 5 and 6. Too funny, rampant deriv. debt, and int. annd fees and penalties. They had to admit if the fair value conversion happened for all the already outstanding debt, it would surpass the 6 billion shares auth. Of course the creeps running this scam still took in $25K for the q. So cyclone stock is imploding upon itself. The conversion debt doubles every year. They don't care cuz they will never pay it.
There is no demand for worthless cyclone shares. remember chris nelson and whe-gen went bye bye...same with the future for the never proven goofy water engine kaboom toy.
Zombie Corp. inc=cyclone. Feeds upon itself as the vampire it has always been. 4700 victims can't be wrong. Now cyclone keeps going on deriv. debt. $1.2 million in fil. a 100% increase. sooo next few months will demand a new auth. cuz 6 billion shares are all used up. $69 million wasted, and harry still needs to screwdriver the demo LOL... ha ha ha...he will be running along side lsr car at bonneville. LOL.. ha ha haa haa...true
If harry has proven anything, it's that steam is not the answer!
but as to this planned failure, harry is an inventor.
Any shareholder who reads the 2017 annual report just out, knows cyclone has zero products and spent $69 million. $52.00 Overdrawn. Add 10 judgements and rents past due. In 2007 cyclone claimed to already have working, market ready, "products" google products and see just how big that lie is. 6 billion shares authorized, but won't be enough to cover debt already in default. No inventory!!! no funding just a mystery investor. Claims $200k paid but went where?? 2 new subs leave bagholders here out in the cold. Just like with chris and the WHE. I found this on fb today. See how deep they bury this one. LOL scam
2nd subsid. reported lately " genesis, and now a new energy yada yada. report sez they paid out for 30 patents, and now have only 3 yet the value is miraculously preserved by harry and fruge's shrewd mmannagemennt style, and yet errors and lack of controls..LOL how many CPA accountant geeks are needed for a no revenues or earnings, or product shell? Only reason no creditor will go after them and auction on a writ of execution...they have the default judgments...well minus $52 in the bank. and 1 look at the shed in photo in the intro...no $$$ Nothing to get !!! and common holders have no rights to sibs like with the whe and chris nelson...repeat too funny. but sad 4700 victims