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what is he supposed to say ? apparently there is no news right now
someone posted yesterday or the day before that they expect 250,000$ in sales for quarter 2. I was curious where that number comes from. Thanks
thanks Stockjock32
that's a 60% increase in just two years.....that more than confirms my earlier post.....personally, you say its not too bad, I think sit is a horrible dilution just my opinion
all I can say is I agree with every word Real.
isn't this the same things we said last year...and the year before....and...
the only difference is that the pps was about .05 then..now there are 25 - 50% more shares outstanding depending on what year we go back to and the price is 25% of what it used to be.......that is bad math for the shareholders
I respectfully disagree. I know what you are saying, but the definition (don't quote me verbatim please) of an R & d company is one that is still in developmental and research stages prior to being ready to manufacture and sell. Since LLI was an R & d company for years and then came out with many products going back to my days with less lethal ammo, then shields, then guns, and launchers and body cameras and grenades and sprays, etc and were actively selling, seeking and acquiring distributors, announcing PO's and letters of Intent, etc, they were no longer an R & D company. HOWEVER, if these products are given up for dead because nothing ever mounts to much in regards to sales (see: body cameras) and then we begin developing and getting ready to market and then sell a NEW product, then YES I agree, we are and WILL FOREVER be an R & D company in perpetuity which is like a friend of mine who has been going to college since he was 18 (Harvard school of Business to begin so he is quite intelligent) and to this day he is still in school (he is 57 now), along the way graduating and passing state certification/bar exam, license bureau exams, etc for accounting, an attorney, a stock broker, a chiropractor, and then without utilizing any of his authentications goes on and begins a new field of study. WHAT IS THE POINT OF KNOWLEDGE ? IS IT FOR THE SAKE OF POSESSING BUT NOT USING, OR IMPLEMENTING (SELLING) WHAT YOU HAVE SEWN. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH LLI. YOU HAVE GRADUATED SEVERAL TIMES, PLEASE ENTER THE REAL WORLD and sell sell sell !!!!!
I did not read the report as I have heard your numbers Real and I haven't heard anyone dispute them so I assume they are accurate. How is it possible to have zero sales. You would almost have to turn down sales to have that considering what a great product line LLLI has and the incredible need for these products. I am beyond baffled and depressed.
In my humble opinion based only on what I am reading here today and from what I have lived thru with this stock for 6 years now, if there are zero sales and/or zero revenues for Q1 as being posted and the PPS is about a penny, this is the worst shape I have seen the company in during my time as a shareholder.
If Lamperd has the solution and products to solve (or at least significantly lessen the damages ) every situation that has happened in the past five years from Ferguson to Parkland, which I actually believe they do, all I am asking in all seriousness, is why aren't we getting the big sales ? I truly believe the products, if they exist and LLI has the money to manufacture them, should be selling. So please tell me why no one is buying ?
I haven't checked in in almost three weeks. Not surprised, just bummed to see we are back down to .015. And the same posts about tragedies pointing to need, etc. so why aren't we capitalizing ?
This could be a conversation exactly a year ago, or two years ago with the Ferguson tragedy. Same story, same results. No sales, low share price and people still hyping the stock. I AM A LONG. I WANT IT TO DO WELL. But what is going on. ???????We never sell anything substantial. I swear, with such a tremendous need and a lack of sales, it is almost like they DO NOT WANT to make sales. Otherwise, how is it possible NOT TOO ??????
ACOUPLE OF POSTERS HAVE TOUTED THE big lamperd less lethal SIGN....WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO HAVE? A McDONALDS BANNER? I AM NOT BEING FUNNY, I JUST DONT GET WHAT IS SO WONDERFUL ABOUT A COMPANY HAVING A BANNER WITH ITS OWN NAME ON IT??????
WHAT MAKES YOU SAYS THIS BY THE WAY? "Clearly, there is strong customer interest in the product line"
WHAT IS CLEAR THAT I AM MISSING, NO SALES, NO PO'S, WHAT PROVES INTEREST ? THANKS
WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THOSE EXACT WORDS FOR 5 YEARS !!! AT LEAST THATS AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN HERE. AND I EXPECT TO SELL AT 1.00 NOT .25 ! BUT SERIOULSY , WHEN DOES TOMORROW GET HERE ???????
OMG !!!!! yes, people are getting shot. people are dying. bullets kill. less lethal weapons don't.
BUT EVERY TIME SOMETHING HAPPENS, SOMEONE POSTS THIS SAME TYPE OF MESSAGE. ITS LIKE THE SUN COMING UP IN THE MORNING. WE KNOW. ITS NOT A REVELATION.
SO HOW ABOUT WE DO SOME SALES TO CAPITALIZE ????
I am so tired of PR's, 8ks, letters, new distributor, news stories etc. I agree, they are all positive signs. But signs still have to pan out.
I just want to see us sell. Real I feel your pain.
regarding the BEAR POPULATION please see my numerous past posts referencing my personal conversations with Barry 5 years ago about the same thing here in the states (think it was YELLOWSTONE Park) IT NEVER HAPPENED.....
and now how many shares outstanding. do I read it wrong when I see 147 million ?
Please understand very clearly: I am not dumping on this stock, I bought 50k shares5 plus years ago at .05 and intended to sell at 1.00. I still hold the same position. I don't day trade.
I still think I can do that, I just don't understand, based on facts such as superior products and tremendous sellers market, why we haven't been doing it all along. I really believe, in concept, in LLI, its just the business practices that have me baffled; more specifically, to rephrase, its the lack of results that have me baffled. I am still a believer, not a basher by any means.
by the way. many times I hear the word patience as we have developed, ramped up, etc and NOW we are ready to make money and sell. But I heard the same things with the (forgotten) body cameras and ours were so superior etc, yet NOW EVERY POLICE FORCE IN THE UNIVERSE IS USING BODY CAMERAS AND WE DID NOT CAPITALIZE ON THAT, SO WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE HERE SO HIGHLY TOUTING THE "NEW AGE" THAT WE HAVE FINALLY ARRIVED IN ? THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE PRODUCTS; GRENADES, LAUNCHERS, ETC. WHY ARE THESE GOING TO SELL AND NONE OF THE PRIOR "SUPERIOR' PRODUCTS DID NOT. AND LET US NOT FORGET, WHEN I BOUGHT IN 5 PLUS YEARS AGO, THE "NEW AND AHEAD OF ITS TIME " PRODUCT WE WERE MARKETING WAS SIMPLY THE AMMO ITSELF ???? I HEARD OF NATO APPROVAL, SELLING TO NATIONAL PARKS TO PRESERVE THE BEAR POPULATION BY SUBDUEING NOT KILLING, AND ON AND ON. THIS WHOLE COMPANY HAS NEVER (WISH I COULD USE A BIGGER FONT OR BOLD FACE THAT WORD NEVER) SOLD THE PRODUCTS IT SUPPOSEDLY DEVELOPES AND THEN PRESENTS AT TRADE SHOWS AND HAS SALES PEOPLE AND DISTRIBUTORS ACTIVELY TRYING TO SELL.NO MATTER WHAT NEW DISTRIBUTORS WE SIGN ON WITH.......WHERE ARE THE SALES.
I SWEAR, IF I DIDNT KNOW BETTER, I WOULD SAY WE DONT ACTUALLY HAVE THE PRODUCTS OR PURPOSELY TRY NOT TO SELL THEM, BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE (AGAIN I WISH I HAD BIGGER BOLD FACE TYPE FOR THE WORD IMPOSSIBLE) NOT TO BE SELLING. EVERYONE SAYS THERE IS SUCH A HUGE, GROWING NEED, WHICH MEANS A HUGE GROWING MARKET OF BUYERS RIGHT ? SO...? NO ONE EVER ADDRESSES THIS. THEY JUST GLOSS OVER THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS WITH MORE HYPE, PR'S AND NEWS ARTICLES. I WANT TO KNOW SINCE THE R & D STAGES ARE OVER IF WE ALREADY DEVELOPED THESE PRODUCTS THRU THE YEARS (SO PATIENCE IS NOT A GOOD BUZZ WORD FOR ADVICE ANYMORE) WHY DID THEY NOT SELL ????????????????????????????????????????????????????? AND WHAT MAKES ANYONE CONFIDENT THAT THE NEWEST WAVE WILL ??????????
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. NOW SOME ANSWERS OR THEORIES WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
same, same, same and more same ! you stated my reasons and feelings 110% thanks Real
I still don't see how that is good. THERE HAS BEEN A VERY RECOGNIZED NEED FOR LESS LETHAL WEAPONS FOR A VERY LONG TIME NOW, BUT LLLI HAS NOT CAPITALIZED. SO EVERYTIME A TRAGEDY HAPPENS IT IS TOUTED AS GREAT NEWS FOR LLI. THAT IS NOT FACT AS IT HAS NO PRIOR HISTORY TO BACK IT UP SO I WISH PEOPLE COULD STOP HYPING TRAGEDIES AS PROFIT POTENTIAL FOR LLLI BECAUSE IT NEVER HAS BEEN.
I AGREE IT ISPOTENTIAL, BUT SO FAR, NOT FOR US ! JUST MY HUMBLE AND SOMEWHAT EDUCATED EXPERIENCE FROM BEING A 5 PLUS YEAR LONG.
Well I do like the rise in pps and the volume is great.
But you know me, I am a doubting Thomas
just a quick question Profit. what does "breaking to new highs " mean ?
your post just a short while ago said we have seen .06 then .20 a few times, so what highs are you referring to ? thanks
Cannot disagree with any word in that statement. Fingers crossed your prognosis is correct.
pps rising on hype......no sales just hope/hype/
ill take it for now
I am not trying to be the voice of doom, but I am not impressed at all with what to me is a rhetoric "Lamperd has a dedicated sales agent who has been meeting with high level government officials in the Republic of Turkey for the past several months. Our agent has been making considerable progress towards a high value contract agreement for sub-licensing...."
Dedicated, like I said the other day, could (and probably does) mean that they have a person who lives in Turkey and he is negotiating for them, but that doesn't mean they have so much money they have devoted a certain amount to a "dedicated' sales agent". It just means they have someone in Turkey. PERIOD. And as far as "making considerable progress" that is so ambiguous as to be almost meaningless. I would like to hear " and is close to signing a sales order for x amount of dollars" and even that isn't anything definite. CONSIDERABLE PROGRESS DEPENDS ON THE STARTING POINT. It could simply mean that after months or years of trying he is finally speaking with someone about something.That is progress, but from what point and TO what point ? Again, RHETORIC.
u said it !!!
CAN WE REALLY SAY, AND I TAKE YOUR EXACT QUOTE....."We know they have the best products so its all about getting them out to paying customers this year. ??
What guage do we use to determine that Lamperds are the BEST ??????
Yes indeed it is a VERY STRONG EXAMPLE of why LESS LETHAL WEAPONS ARE NEEDED. Read that again please. LESS LETHAL WEAPONS ARE NEEDED. Not Lamperds, ANYBODYS ! there is such competition out there AND THERE HAS BEEN A NEED FOR LESS LETHAL WEAPONS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND LAMPERD HAS NOT BEEN THE ONE MAKING THE SALES, so just because tragedies keep happening, that doesn't help us.
It never did before so WHY CANT WE SELL ????????????????????
"dedicated sales agent in Turkey" could simply mean the guy is in Turkey so all his sales efforts are directed to Turkish buyers.
THAT IS NOTHING SPECIAL .
I have been here for 5 years. I don't want to say I agree with you Kolby, but.........
nice job Real
Real, I feel your pain.
But isn't it obvious where things are?
We may or may not have the technology we say, we may or may
not be able to produce and deliver on orders, large or small, we
most definitely don't have enough of the public's ears/eyes.
AND we definitely don't have sales except little tid bits we see as bones.
That's where we are and have been and hopefully wont always be, but if it walks like a duck................
yes, a very valid point and ANOTHER excellent example to show the
need for Less lethal weapons (not just LLLI's but ANYBODY's).
But these EXAMPLES merely point out a PROBLEM. Each time a new horrific incident happens and we do not capitalize (that sounds morbid) with increased sales is just another reason to worry and wonder WHY ?
So is it possible NOT TO HAVE ANOTHER YEAR OF POSTS SHOWING ALL THE TRAGEDY IN THE WORLD AND THE NEED FOR LLLI'S PRODUCTS, BECAUSE THE ONLY TRAGEDY (NOT TO BE COLD HEARTED, JUST A GOOD PLAY ON WORDS) IS THAT WE ARE STILL WAITING AFTER ALL THESE YEARS AND HEARING ABOUT "POISED" AND "GEARING UP" AND "WELL POSITIONED"
AND "INCREASED MANUFACTURING CAPABILITIES" AND ALL THE OTHER USELESS CORPORATE BUZZ-SPEAK. LETS FACE IT GUYS, PUT UP OR SHUT UP TIME CAME AND WENT AND WE ARE STILL HERE WAITING.
OH AND ANOTHER PET PEEVEE; PLEASE STOP ASKING FOR BARRYS HEAD! ITS HIS DARN COMPANY AND HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS. IF WE DONT LIKE IT, THEN WE ARE FREE TO LEAVE. I AGREE THIS WHOLE THING IS SCREWED UP, BUT BARRY DOES HIS JOB, DEVELOPING AND HYPING. IT WORKS FOR HIM AND HE IS NOT HERE TO PLEASE US OBVIOUSLY.
What bothers me about this post is the phrase in the beginning ...
"Lamperd has more going for it now than at any time in the company's past. We know that LLLI stock climbs easily when buyers are coming in on positive developments so I expect a lot of upside for this stock in 2018 as more news is released. For now, be sure to review all the company delivered during 2017: "
I wish it said "so I expect a lot of upside for this stock in 2018 as more sales are announced" instead of ..."in 2018 as more news is released"
NEWS IS NOT SALES
The sad part is people are ONLY talking about spikes on news and reports, so I assume they sell on that as well. I bought into this stock thinking it was real and was going to make products and sell products and be an up and coming stock. Now, like I said, it appears people are just banking on the "Ferguson factor" i.e. PPS rises on news, sell for profit, then PPS goes down again because of no sales and suckers like me are left holding the bag waiting for the actually business end to play out instead of just the PR.
Hey, I admit it, I am a dreamer, a sucker, I am not a trader.
real, I love every part of your post because it contains optimism, honesty and caution and aggressive attitude towards Barry/LLLI.
so at the number you speak of you spent 725.00 and I certainly expect it to go to .20 someday so right there is 10,000 on your 725.00 investment.
I am in the same boat only I bought 50,000 shares to start with at .05 and never bought more (four plus years ago) so I am sitting on 2500 investment waiting to see 10,000 or more when I sell.
nothing has changed except the ridiculous amount of time it has taken to go basically backwards with all the same promises in place. Fingers crossed all around !!
All I can say to that is I hope so ! I have been waiting and I would love to finally see it all come to fruition.
And excuse the pun, but I have to .....Profit, I cant wait for you to turn out to be a Prophet !!!!
Profit, I love your optimism. That being said, I have heard you say the same thing year after year, and I do agree with you year after year.
I just don't understand why things never pan out. But I have never given up hope that common market logic must eventually prevail; that being, we have the products, there is a huge need, so just basic supply and demand Junior High School economics leads us to the conclusion that this stock should soar because sales MUST be forthcoming.
My fingers are crossed.
I hear what you are saying...but I have had past stocks where I would buy on the way down to get my average down, but after all this time, and the same exact thing year after year, month after month, I am afraid that I would simply be wasting money on rhetoric which may never see fruition. People talk about patience, but after 5 years the only rise I ever saw was last September (or the one before - they all blend in now) when the PPS soared up to .20 on news alone, no sales. In all my years we have never actually seen tangible results, just promises, and we have seen "the newest best technology", i.e body cameras for one, rocket launchers, ammo, grenades, all hyped up, but NEVER any significant sales. Personally, if I were a new investor and didn't look at the history, just the product line and the world demand, I would be excited to dump my life savings into this stock. But for some reason, we NEVER capitalize. WHY ? I have no answer at all.
buy low sell high ? you talk about it going up to .04 or .05.....
what about the many of us that BOUGHT at those prices....?
I bought in at .055 5 years ago and am still waiting.......
I thought I WAS buying low at that price and expected to sell high at .50 or higher.......now people are getting excited we may see .04 ? very depressing