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I read 20X lower cost, not 20%.
So the patent was worth nothing? Makes no sense.
More researchers...more viable the industry. Imagine being someone tinkering with building a 'flying machine'...you are close to perfecting it...but then hear about Orville & Wilbur. Time to give up? No money to be made? Did only one auto company (Ford) make any money? If HYSR keeps going, keeps patenting, keeps building up voltages/current densities/etc., prototype sizes, etc., they will attract attention and come out just fine, IMHO. I believe HYSR and the hydrogen industry needs multiple players to broaden the reach and appeal of their research. Got to get people (investors, consumers) excited and demanding your product! The more chatter there is, the better.
As an aside: The article's source is CNBC. If I worked for HYSR, I'd get them and the rest of 'Big Media' on my call/mail list, if they aren't already. Seems to me the patent news is 'real' news, not a fluff piece about how great the future will be. Behave like you are important, HYSR!
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Nice post on HYSR Twitter. https://twitter.com/hypersolar
Video of someone filling a Honda Clarity with hydrogen. Not seen that before. Points out how expensive hydrogen is now. What's needed to really get the industry going is a cheap, green hydrogen source. The tech works...just need an economical fuel and the build-out of a pumping stations to deliver it.
For newbies...HYSR posts good industry info on Twitter every few days.
Musk moves the market. If he reverses, even slightly, on his public opinion of hydrogen then big money could swing in.
HYSR feeling more like a real company! Patents bring quantifiable value. Hope they move beyond 'fluff' PRs to substantive achievements. Larger prototypes and new business relationships seem plausible. Recent signs of hydrogen economy expansion are encouraging. Greater investor transparency would be nice and would lead to more consistent share price (IMO). Sitting LONG with 6.5+Million shares since 2014. Waiting for the big boys to show Elon Musk he's wrong about hydrogen (or will be get onboard and be the catalyst it needs?) The missing piece is distributed hydrogen production. HYSR is in the right space.
50-day & 200-day MA lines crossing...It's been a while! Good upward momentum off prototype. http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui (Type in HYSR ticker symbol) Possibly a Clinton effect as well?
Holding 6.5M shares long. I believe the teams at U-IA and UCSB will deliver as promised.
Like I've been saying, HYSR consistently does as they say they will do...you're building my trust, Tim! Congratulations to the HYSR team on the prototype!
Now they have something tangible and understandable by a human that can be used both for development purposes (measure yields and efficiencies, scalability modeling, etc.) but also for marketing/partnership/investor purposes.
Good thoughts...thanks. Still would like more updates on even mundane things, but hanging in there with 6M+ shares. I like the Twitter updates https://twitter.com/hypersolar - shows me what they think are areas of interest. The posts are really focused on the fuel cell car vs. other hydrogen applications or industrial uses for the tech they are developing. I'd say they consider the car companies (or the H fuel station folks) the main potential customer.
"Lithium battery material found to harm key soil microorganism"...www.z.umn.edu/lithium a publication from Univ. of Minnesota. Maybe batteries will face some issues? H on-demand production seems a better choice.
Look to Ocean Power Technologies (OPTT) as a model for HYSR. Large spikes in share price lately on news of prototype deployments and continued product development (after declining for years). I believe HYSR will surge similarly at some point.
(I don't own any OPTT, just think it's another piece of the coming alt energy solution universe).
What's your beef with HYSR? Yes, they do seem to do as they say they will do. Goal: Reach 1.5 volts...DONE. Goal: Expand research capabilities through more university relationships and staff positions...DONE. Etc. Goal: Increase current density...PARTIALLY DONE. Goal: Create demonstration prototype...WORKING ON IT.
I, for one, am encouraged and support their efforts.
There won't be just one winner. Multiple entrants will grow the market for H solutions. As long as HYSR keeps doing what it says its going to do, the industry will expand and they will get their share despite new competitors (and we'll all do well). Buzz...that's what this industry needs is buzz. That article is an example of getting people excited...which leads to more investors and greater market caps (e.g., 3D printing or graphine or private space flights or drones or...). All IMHO.
HYSR is my "Hillary" insurance. Alt energy stocks should do well as she throws the environmental wing a bone. I believe hydrogen is coming anyway but it will get here faster with support of another 'loose spending', climate change-oriented administration.
Interesting company. Into so many things (too many?) Stock has not done too well lately (INGYY). They aren't turning a profit. Do you have an opinion on if the stock price has bottomed?
What happened to Intelligent Energy's stock back in March? Quite a drop.
Super helpful...thanks! I appreciate the time people are taking to instruct us non-Chemistry or Physics majors! Keep it coming! Your words,"The voltage is what makes the reaction possible and the current is what makes it useful. You need the first to accomplish the second" help me frame the issues/discussion.
Knowing this now, I agree with others here that step-by-step they are moving forward and I am comfortable holding my shares. Basic research takes time and they continue to demonstrate capabilities in the lab that are bearing fruit. Hopefully, the business/marketing side is also hard at work in parallel with the research side.
Thanks again, fellow investors.
I'm confused.
1) Can someone explain, in English, what the chemistry/physics issue is? I get so lost with 'anode/cathode', 'current density' and such.
2) Are they announcing new numbers, or are these the numbers that were previously released (i.e., is this old news?) They say they have 'tripled photocurrents', but with no numbers I don't know if that is old or new news.
I found this PR vague without intent to communicate clearly. They seem to like to re-publish old news as new news. I do see progress here and am a 'long' investor (6M+ shares), but highly value transparency when it comes to investor insight. HYSR, just tell us, in common words, what you are up to!
Anyone here? Wonder what HYSR is up to...
Seems to me HYSR's bottomed out. They keep meeting their milestones...giving me no reason to second-guess my investment.
Which is harder? The voltage hurdle or the density hurdle? I'm not a technical person (got 'C's in college physics classes and was especially lost in the electricity chapters in my Physics 101 textbook), but it seems to me that voltage was a bigger fish to fry. If so, the density goal could be on a shorter timeline. With them already having touted a 100% increase, it seems meeting that requirement will take a bit less effort? (That isn't to minimize the challenges they seem to be methodically working through...good job, Iowa!) Putting a demo together seems like the 'easiest' phase of the three - assembling the parts and making it look nice. After that, on to marketing! (which I hope is already being developed in tandem with the technology...right Santa Barbara?)
Sounds like a viable game plan to me. Thoughts?
Not selling at all; holding 6.1M shares for the long haul. I've played the game of buy/sell/repeat with other stocks. Works great...until it doesn't. I don't want to miss this one.
Thanks to people who took time to help me understand this technology. I have a lot to learn! Once prototype is developed, there should be more emphasis on education (so people with $ know what it does).
Is Bloomberg Radio interview available? If someone has an update, I'd love to listen to it.
Can someone explain HYSR in plain English? I have quite a few shares and have been invested since March, 2014, but I'm still really confused about what the heck they are building.
My understanding is that it will be basically a small pellet. This pellet will have a coating on it that is essentially 'stuff' that responds to sunlight by creating an electrical charge. Somehow that charge, reacting with water, splits the water into H and O2. The H is collected, transported and used in a fuel cell. Have a vessel/container with quadrillions of these little pellets, sunlight and water (clean, salty or dirty) and, Voila! Clean energy! Plus...the more you can use inexpensive 'stuff' to coat the pellets, the cheaper they are to manufacture and the more money you can make.
What I don't understand is...how does the coating actually work? Is the voltage we keep hearing about (e.g., >1.6V) a measure of the energy flowing on the pellet? How, then, does the water get split...just by the pellets being submersed it magically happens? Where are the anode and cathode? It's obvious on a battery, but on a pellet?? Why also the time element (1000 hours)? Does the coating wear out and you need new pellets? Next, what are current densities (e.g., 8Ma/sq cm.)? And when they talk about 'efficiency' (e.g., 10%), what is that measuring (the ratio of the energy from the sunlight vs. what you get out from the fuel cell)?
I think it would be very helpful to us non-tech people to understand more about what's being built in the great State of Iowa!
Thanks for any input/insight.
I missed this article in March:
http://renewables.seenews.com/news/hypersolar-to-demonstrate-solar-to-hydrogen-tech-at-larger-scale-517966
March 22 (SeeNews) - HyperSolar Inc (OTC:HYSR), the developer of a technology for hydrogen production using only sunlight and any source of water, plans to build 1-sq-ft prototypes with demonstrable solar-to-hydrogen efficiency of 10% or greater.
Currently, the company and its research partners are developing methods for integrating an inexpensive catalyst on top of its high efficiency multi-junction solar cells, through which they expect to reach photovoltages of above 1.6 V and current densities exceeding 8 mA/sq cm. In a statement on Tuesday, HyperSolar said that if it accomplishes this goal it will be able to build prototypes with 10% or higher efficiency, and stable operation exceeding 1,000 hours. The projected system cost is seen at below USD 5 (EUR 4.44) per kg for distributed solar hydrogen.
HyperSolar has been working with the University of Iowa and the University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB) for many months, advancing its technology. After reaching several key milestones, the company now wants to focus on demonstrating capabilities at larger scale.
The black-background chart when you first come to HYSR at InvestorsHub (above where all the posts are listed). Just wonder why if it has been 'accumulated', has the share price going down.
Look at accum/distrib chart above. Can someone explain this? Seems positive to me that it has steadily risen for over a year. I have been steadily accumulating for over a year. This will break wide open with good news, in my opinion.
Quiet board...any thoughts out there? Seems to me a meaningful PR is due. Have been accumulating shares steadily this year, thinking this is a good bet if oil rebounds or if Sanders wins.
Agreed. I believe the U of Iowa would not support a research effort that was not legit. The fact that they have their team in IA is comforting to me.
That said, is it really so hard to tell everyone,"Hey...we've been logging X hours doing research on such-and-such and here is what we're finding..." Or maybe,"Hey...we just bought three new desks because we are collecting so much data and are hiring a new intern." Signs of life would be nice.
Bi-partisan Support for Fuel Cells:
03:03 PM EST, 02/17/2016 (MT Newswires) -- Plug Power ( PLUG ) rose in Wednesday'afternoon trade after Democratic Rep. Paul Tonko and Republican Rep. Chris Gibson said the company's fuel cells are worthy of a tax break, according to a report on Albany Business Review.
Shares were up 6.3% at $1.85, with a 52-week range of $1.30 - $3.38.
The two local U.S. representatives had toured Plug Power's ( PLUG
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) Latham, New York manufacturing facility Tuesday and addressed employees and local media.
In their remarks, Rep. Tonko and Rep. Gibson said they will advocate for fuel cells to continue getting a 30% investment tax credit, which expires at the end of 2016, the report said further.
HYSR active on Twitter. You can go to https://twitter.com/hypersolar (thought this would be useful for people new to the board).
I'm here, and buying - total is now 5.65M shares. Slow accumulation with no sales. HYSR has come a long way since I first bought a couple years ago. I like the progression of the technology and the expanding team. Non-technical news would be appreciated, but the company seems to do what it says it's going to do. I love the sector and view this energy downturn as an opportunity. Heck, what if Sanders gets in and puts megabucks into alt energy? Even if it's Clinton, Trump or Cruz...I believe Toyota and the fuel cell/hydrogen industry will continue to develop the market.
My view: We're just one press release away from making some real money. Hoping the HYSR team can deliver for all of us.
Good news, HYSR! Some thoughts...
1) What I'm liking is that they seem to do what they say they are going to do. Increasing voltages...new catalysts...new researchers...new labs...etc.
2) Surprisingly, I find myself actually having faith that their words will result in action. So many companies leave doubts.
When I look at where they are compared to 1 or 2 years ago, I am encouraged.
3) I hope they do a 'Business Update' to show the roadmap for 2016 and goals for beyond (for Iowa and, particularly, Santa Barbara).
4) I'm glad to see fewer 'fluff' press releases that, to me, diminish their credibility - I can wait for the 'good stuff'!
5) Focus on alt energy worldwide should bring attention to the sector and new investor interest.
6) I've been buying on dips through the year with no selling; over 5M shares held now for the long-term.
Any more info on their tie to SLTD for the solar component? Just trying to connect the dots.
I can't remember the solar company mentioned on this board that had the concentrating solar technology. Can someone give me that ticker symbol?
Happy to see 1.55V! I knew the Iowans could do it. Now on to developing a marketable product and parterships.
Can you suggest other publicly traded companies who are doing this sort of research? Thanks.
HYSR articles...
Green Car Reports:
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1098918_hypersolar-nears-voltage-needed-for-solar-hydrogen-production
HotStocked:
http://www.hotstocked.com/article/90597/hypersolar-otcmkts-hysr-achieves-a-major.html
SeeNews:
http://renewables.seenews.com/news/hypersolar-reaches-1-4-v-with-solar-nanoparticle-technology-482472
StocksnTrade:
http://stocksntrade.com/hypersolar-inc-otcmktshysr-on-its-way-to-produce-renewable-hydrogen-fuel-7254.html