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Bowie, what a fool, blaming others for your crap investment. I'm down over $35k and recouped $800.00.... and, pull up a post that says I ever pumped IFSL......I was riding on the tails of others here and supposed facts that IFSL sent out. Please don't tell me the day IFSL PPS went up that you didn't jump up and down........nuf said.....idiot
I know I know I know, sorry, I have too keep a little faith, very, very little. At .45 I would have made $50k. But keep in mind you would never have sold that amount as there was no one to buy it on the way down.
My hopeful opinion is that there are those on this board who are being very, very quiet about what they know.
I'm in the belief that ifsl had a horrible beginning of the year, stuff falling thru etc, they've spent the rest of the year recouping and we'll see the results in March or april. Or they won't renew their license in February, Maybe they don't have the $100
Not being a reporting company they don't have to show us crap.
Being negative is not going to get me anywhere, a class action lawsuit might thou......forcing them to show their financials.
Hey Chicken, I'm not as polite as you, IF A person has to borrow from a Payday Loan company but has money to pay for a phone and computer to file a complait.............eh? Just read the contract....period.
Certainly looks like complaints from people who have time to write about their complaint, tweet about it, Facebook it BUT NEVER TAKE THE TIME TO READ THE GODD#$M CONTRACT...........ALL OVER A YEAR AGO.
BBB RATES THEM A+ FYI
Either IFSL's website hasn't been updated in awhile or? I certainly don't see thier Payday loan association on there, or their payday loan program they started last year.
What is on there website is The Human Resources program, The Ideal Goodness Program (still selling the gruel I see) Ideal Merchant services and I Cash Secrets..........how to make money.....hmmmmm
One other note , IFSL's license to operate is up early February I believe.
IMO and only guessing. Some really bad news / activity HAD to take place over the last year AND IMO, IFSL has remained quiet to try and rebuild and get theirselves back to a place of respectability before telling us about it.
Again it gets back to their "hoping" the 4th quarter "works" for them. We can only hope to God another company is in the hunt to buy ifsl.
At this point, this is all we have to hope for.
I wonder if the one person on the board who went to Las Vegas actually made contact.....nothing ever posted here......he and others imo are keeping the information private unto theirselves imo. Shhhh, maybe one day ifsl will jump to .10
Happy Holidays all!!!!! Getting Close
IMO, in 2012, IFSL waited weeks, months, quarters before they announced the audit would not be done, then a tidbit about "megers" so we could talk about for 90 days.....ifsl is lying thru their teeth especially since the company will not reveal ANYTHING about their recent 2011 /2012 business activities................
I thought as of Fall 2011 IFSL was in a big "turnaround" mode......."without the turnaround of the business" means what. Ifsl had a bad 2012? Something happened that ifsl is keeping quiet? Hiding?
So the question is, can a company "not have to show their financials" if their a "private company". Of course they can.
The question is, can a company, ifsl, who now is only a "pinkie" and capable of selling shares of their stocks have an "required" obligation to show their financials as they are on a "stock exchange".
How can we force the issue?
You got to ask yourself at this point and as a business owner who "owns" shares of my own company, it means squat, I get paid a salary. IFSL couldn't care less about us investors, IMO, the people who work for IFSL and may have "shares" in the company are compensated "otherwise" for the PPS being where it is AND MAY STAY THERE....unless of course IFSL management get its head out of it's A#$.
Seriously....what reason would IFSL want the PPS to go up, just so us idiots can sell it, and since we own a decent percentage, it would take a minor, no a major miracle to get it above .50 and we will sell it....who do they have then besides theirselves owning it? The other schmucks suckered into buying IFSL?
PSSST.....I hear .60 by Christmas
A screwed investor since, geeze was it 08 or 09?......
Does anybody know the maximum length of time a company has to file extensions and get tax returns for 2011....in ifsl's example? AND, AND, are they as a Pinkie required to show us the stockholder or can they continue to hide from us?
Boy you are optimistic....hell, they have to file their taxes for 2011 some time right???????????
All we have to do is to get some other SUCKERS to buy IFSL............
As tempting as these prices may seem ISLE, I told Chicken many months ago when IFSL was at a great price around .16 not to buy..........yup for $1000 you get around 16000 in shares if you can...........THEY HAVE TO SHOW US SOMETHING FIRST, ANYTHING.......AS FAR AS WE KNOW, IT MAY BE A PONZI SCHEME TO TAKE YOUR MONEY AS YOU BUY IN, THEY SELL.........IMO OF COURSE.
NO LONGER BEHOLDING TO SEC = NO LONGER GETTING MY MONEY.
OUR JOB NOW IS TO WAIT AS PAULY SAYS....THEY SHOW ANY KIND OF LIFE, NEW INVESTORS?, WE GET OUT.........SAME AS WE GOT IN...WHAT? 4 YEARS AGO?.....
I agree with Dreamy, a great idea. Do you pre call and make and appointment or just walk in? Good luck with that...........
Earth to IFSL Earth to IFSL, us "WHINER" investors who invested in MORE than a "you invested in a Penny stock" per you guys.....at this point couldn't care less about the PPS, where the Hell is it going to go from here?
WE WANT NUMBERS, 4th Quarter 2011, 2011 Yearly numbers, 1st Quarter 2012, 2nd Quarter 2012......soon 3rd Quarter.
These are the reasons ifsl has become a joke, plain and simple.......
I agree with the need for the beginnings of an investigation, at what cost? compared to what a) we have already invested b)the current worth of our stock c)what's the benefit?
Maybe it's as simple as arranging a meeting with Steve S. and based on that meeting, even if he cancels, or doesn't show up signals for us the investor what ifsl is or is not doing.
Can an investors FORCE a company it has invested in, show us it's books? Paul? You'll read this, answer?
Maybe we should do just that, "fund" a one on one meeting in Vegas with Steve S.
That and a tall Beer............ha! Good weekend all........
We haven't talked about MM's in a LONG time but to sell only 750 shares at ASK means something....let's see if their's a substancial buy now.......
What was the buy sell ratio here. Someone is taking it too heart too sell at .07-.08...when someone is buying........
Remember Flo "Multiple Companies" looking at IFSL......
Naw, we have to wait for ifsl's "best season" the fall / winter. Then ifsl will sell in February. Many potential buyers all "looking". "Business is BRISK".
Stick around suckers.................
imo the only person who would buy this , hell, if it goes to .12 they've doubled their money if they could sell at that price OR someone who can see the future....you figure that one out...not wasting another dime here...I won't feel bad if it pops and sells for $2.00......
Hey Hey.....your wrong 600 traded today whoopie!!!!!
Heck, I was buying back when ifsl dropped to .08 years ago.....it's funny too see someone with automatic sells in at .06...."get me out for any price".
I know the pps isn't going to move since ifsl has decided NOT to tell ANYONE what their financials look like...........ONLY WAY IMO to get the pps moving is to sell.....only time will tell.............
Well said ISLE, well said.....period!
Just remember, per Paul, .10 is a great entry level price, you'll never know when ifsl will pop to .50! Per Pauly
Remember Chicken, per Paul, ifsl is only going to communicate with those investors that are verbally nice to them. Per them, We just don't understand what ifsl is trying to do........
Ifsl responsibly needs to tell's us their investors, WHO INVESTED THEIR MONEY IN THEIR COMPANY,
Specifically what business ifsl is currently conducting AND how much money ifsl is making from it..........
That's not too much to ask is it Paul?
Ash is still out there, none of us really need to be here bashing each other. We'd rather just have nice conversations between ourselves.
In realty, you look around today at all the scams going on, Bernie Maddoff was by far not the only scammer....they come in many forms....
They prey on senior citizens, they try and sell you stuff from afar.
IFSL seems too still be a business, it's not asking for our money (although it has it in the form of stock investment) They know their not getting anymore investor money....Viable? Who Knows, BSing us? Who knows, for what reason? Financials, who knows, they still have to turn in tax returns with their financials.....
Hiding profits / losses from us, probably....remember when they got rid of a management company and didn't tell us for 2-3 quarters because it hurt the bottom line BUT also put a world of hurt on them.........glimmer of hope in the corner of my eye......Mahalo
Paul, who reads these posts said recently that ifsl we'll keep updated those "nice" investors who treat ifsl nice because the rest of us don't understand what their doing.....he stated " remember, this PR that just came out was the program we started 5 months ago".
Problem is Paul, we have no F%^$&N idea what ifsl is doing, what product lines are still going, IS ANY MONEY coming in? How does this new program make money.
IF IFSL IS ALL ABOUT COLLECTING DATA are they just not grabbing states / medical doctors, federal data bases to be sold? Is that the crux of all this??
How's the PDL association $8 per loan written ifsl was supposed to get....
How's ifsl's own PDL program going........
If company(s) are interested in buying ifsl, do YOU REALLY THINK THEY NEED TO SEE IF the 3rd and 4th quarter sales are real.......
Hey what happened to the add on to each payday loan...what $8 per....hundreds of thousands written each month............
Hey what happened to ifsl's Payday loan sales startup online....bet sales are zippo...any takers?
At this point no, ifsl has zero validity, comments such as "we'll only tell our nice investors what they want to hear and all the other crybaby investors can beat off" have made me lose all validity in A COMPANY THAT WILL NOT TELL IT'S INVESTORS SPECIFICALLY WHAT BUSINESS IT'S IN, HOW MUCH THEIR MAKING OR LOSING, HOW THEY ARE SUPPOSEDLY MAKING MONEY FROM EACH OF THESE ENTITIES.
Paul touts that "ifsl a few years back went from .0001 to .01....and lasted for 2 days there before the CC guy sold his shares given him by Steve S. They falsely pumped ifsl so this would happen and a few of us suckers relyed on friends to tell us "this puppy is going to .03 by Christmas from .01.
"guys are cashing in on other stocks waiting to buy ifsl", "their waiting for their money to clear" yeah right......first and last time I listen to a "friend".
Just like Paul's "always buying more, or how ifsl is buying stock back".....right...........
I just may well take that day old cake. Da Boys at ifsl will tell "few unsatisfied" investors nothing. The satisfied ones ARE Da Boys theirselves who know what thier holding.
ISLE is correct, IFSL has no idea that ALL us UNHAPPY INVESTORS want are viable updates....financials......remember at the end of the 3rd quarter 2011....ifsl did $100,000 in sales in one week..(Payday loan association)..it will get better....anybody hear anything about that...coming up on ONE YEAR ANNIVERSITY OF THAT.
Hey, how's the online Payday loans coming?
Us "unhappy" investors after 3 years are still 90% down.....great return eh?
I copied and will repaste after ifsl comes out with their first PR........saying nothing.
IMO...only, ONLY way out for us is if iFSL sells...period!
Correct........ifsl couldn't care less about its stock investors....it will sell or not sell depending on: "will it benefit the mgt of ifsl in the long run monetarily wise, in keeping their jobs etc" I doubt if Steve S could care at his age but he's probably looking out for juniors welfare.
How LOW will SHE Go?..............before ifsl says..."were selling"....please,please,please, oh please again.............
Do you ever read what you write? I said prior to ifsl getting on the OTCBB board and listed they had a RS of 200-1....remember that, do ya? Ding Dong, All I said was the possibility was that since ifsl is not longer listed, hell, they can revert all the way back to their origins, whats stopping them????
The $5000 land in Florida I'll give you $50 for, a bit more in Hawaii......
I think your right, I did see a worthwhile PR back a couple of years ago......................................................................
I'll put another shuddering thought in your head Chicken, ifsl did a 200-1 RS for what reason? To get on the bigger boards............and now? I might put .25 that they do a 200-1 FS......you watch......they'll feel as a penny stock heck the pps will go higher at .0001 then .15....gut feeling only