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OMG get over it... it made a few people laugh and was clearly false, are you 2 years old?
Wow, what an educated statement. I like a lot of the PR's and think they give us great exposure. I never said that the PPS will react, but it has a much better chance with clear and truthful PR's. The PPS going down has to do with MM's and us not being able to pass an audit, that will take time, but it should be focused on. I do want it both ways, I want honest and clear PR's and I want Frank to release solid numbers and more information about our financial status (including outstanding shares).
I agree with his post in the sense that that is what Frank is thinking... I do, however, disagree 100 percent with that thinking, as do most investors:
Have you ever thought that Frank desires to keep Q on the pinks so he doesn't have to publish info. that may be used against the co. Remember we are flying under the radar. Why tip our hand on any info. that we have. Including shares outstanding, revenue or expenses incurred. It is obviously easier to develope a business when you don't have to answer to skeptics for each action you take.[/]
Now wait one minute... a few days ago when we were arguing you CLEARLY said you didn't car if Q breaks promises in their PR's because long term they will succeed.... that sure wouldn't make me comfortable in their PR's.... like I said before:
If Q announced that they were going to release a major carrier next week, would you hold you breath (or better yet, would but more shares)? I think a lot of us would be skeptical because of past promises, that is a problem and Q needs to regain trust in investors.
Really! That's GREAT! Do you have any more details?
I really wish someone would re-do the website. It honestly looks amature, I could do better. Ok, don't start screaming at me for this, but if you look at here's website, you are genuinely impressed. It is nicely flowing, quick loading, professional and interactive. As far as web design for Q goes, it is highly unprofessional to redirect you to another site with ads to use the chat. And the 'What color is your Q' thing is terrible, it would be OK if you could click on it and it would stay throughout the site. I think this should be a top priority because todays investors immediately go to the website to decide whether or not invest...
Also... if I could only figure out the password to send a press release... http://www.qtelevision.com/service/
JUST KIDDING
MOST OF US have not been here for 4 years... a few of you have. I believe in Q tremendously, but you never address how terrible the PR's are... I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HOLD ON FOREVER BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IN Q, I do too, but breaking promises in a PR or being completely vague does no good for anyone, and it makes everyone question the validity of them. For example, if Q issued a Press Release tomorrow saying that they were to announce a major carrier the next week, would you hold your breath? I sure wouldn't. That is a big problem with Q, they need to regain some trust back in their investors. If they met all their promises, all the time, the next time we get a jump, there would be fewer investors jumping off and causing a dip. ALL THAT MATTERS IS THE PPS, PERIOD. Some of us have different definitions of Long, Skunks, you may want to hold on for eternity, but I would like a decent profit in the next year (hopefully around 100 percent, which I don't think is unreasonable).
I can issue you 1000 PR's about Q, that doesn't mean you know anything just because you read them
OMG are you frustrating today Skunks... I have read EVERY PR numerous times, as nearly everyone here has, but that doesn't mean we know that much especially when they are vague or break promises, my goodness, don't you get it? If you are going to argue this, argue that they don't break promises, that they aren't vague, or that breaking promises or being vague doesn't matter as far as us knowing about the company. Like I said before, and this goes for a lot of us here, if you break one promise, it makes me question every other PR.
Excellent statement, perhaps the statement of the month.
Anyone that reads the PR's knows as much as Skunks.... which isn't a lot
I was clearly implying that you don't know a lot, NONE OF US DO! That is the big problem... none of us know what is true or what we do know is vague or based on rumors.
I tried calling the number, emailing his old address and emailing Ronnie... they tend not to respond or tell you they don't know... which I think is true. I wish someone who went to Sundance would have asked about the Hosts (whether they have been decidded or not), but do not criticize any of the information they brought back, it was a lot more than most of have done.
I never get you... you respond to things that were never said... I never said that there weren't 'a lot', I said that they are often vague (Jan 18th) or cannot be trusted (by breaking promises). One PR that breaks a promise makes me question all of them, plain and simple. It seems that they are focusing on recruiting new investors too hard by making statements that are too bold. Do I think Frank thought that he would have the two host by the next week, yes! Do I think Frank thought there was a chance he may not, yes! Do I think he authorizes PR's that make statements too early, absolutely! I would be happy with no PR's for a month to get one that is full of 100 percent facts (like, THESE ARE OUR HOSTS, or THIS IS THE COMPANY THAT WILL BE BROADCASTING US IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST STARTING TODAY).
I agree with nearly all of your posts... I think, however, that our exposure to the country isn't a bad thing. Comcast and others don't really have to follow Christian laws in fear of a backlash like other companies do. Although it isn't considered a 'monopoly', they don't have to worry about subscribers leaving them for Dish or DirecTV, it is too complicated and subscibers to the local cable will just forget about it, and deal with the fact that gays are in their house. Any attention Q recieves, through lawsuits or protests will be great! IMO
I do however, want it scrambled for the simple fact that we will have revenue coming in... and will be able to get a number of our subscriber... although Frank will probably never release that number.
I know what QTN put out on PR's...anyone who reads the PR's knows as much as me
I COMPLETELY AGREE SKUNKS! Anyone that reads the PR's knows as much as Skunks.... which isn't a lot considering we never know the truth behind them, and they are often vague and lead investors jumping to conclusions.
I agree... but if there are still negotiations, then you dont release a PR... he made a mistake to current shareholders and lied to future ones... I believe in Q, but it was a mistake on his part, and people have a right to be upset
wah wah wah... Frank needs to live up to his promises... wahhhhh!!! boo hoo Frank has started a network that is on the air. What have you done?
Bill Gates has formed a giant conglomerate and people complained about what he did all the time. Just because Frank has started this company, doesn't mean we have no right worry or COMPLAIN when he breaks promises. That is a completely reasonable statement. You can say that about any stock you invest in... sure you didn't start the company, but you have a stake in it. Are you suggesting we endlessly pump QBID no matter what Frank does...
I am with you... kept promises = higher PPS
All I understood was "a little delay of the event", lol
Google doesn't mean a thing...
Results 1 - 10 of about 24,700,000 for here tv.
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,330,000 for logo television network.
Results 1 - 10 of about 15,900,000 for here television network.
Results 1 - 10 of about 29,900 for chocolate soda snake.
Results 1 - 10 of about 76,200 for river mongoose
Results 1 - 10 of about 29,100,000 for b television
Results 1 - 10 of about 9,020,000 for b television network
Results 1 - 10 of about 175,000 for bbid
We are getting great exposure, google doesn't help us show that.
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Some pretty impressive statistics...
What I noticed when I "GOOGLED" Q Television, Q Television Network & QBID:
Results 1 - 100 of about 15,200,000 for q television.
Results 1 - 100 of about 2,980,000 for q television network.
Results 1 - 100 of about 31,800 for qbid.
A major, nationally announced lawsuit, would send Q to the moon.
Also, I hate people that do this... but... Dave did say "...will debut later this month". IT COULD HAVE BEEN AN ERROR! But, it is something to keep our spirits up.
We need 3 or 4 more 'David Letterman type' events and the ball will keep rolling, with so many news stations, no one wants to be the last to break the news. In all honesty (although I would give all my shares not to see this happen) I think that if the gay marriage issue hits the supreme court and is 'denied' (meaning, they say it is left up to the states and set the precendent) this will only force Q into the spotlight more (good for shareholders). Q will make it big by not being exceptable by everyone. That's what Viacom has going against them. Educated people see their programming as shameless plugs and lacking depth, and Logo and Here! will both have those qualities. The best thing Frank has done, and it cannot be mentioned enough, is FOCUS ON QUALITY PROGRAMMING. If we have quality programming but cannot get a carrier and none of the other companies can get one, we have the great benefit of sydication, which can be extremely profitable. I still stand by my belief that "Good Morning Gay America" and "IN FOQUS" are attempts to draw lawsuits and attention. Right now, we all agree, we are not making much money and therefore the damages would be small (small compensation) and we would look like the underdogs getting bullied. Any coverage is good coverage.
Earlier today a couple people complained about the new PR not being 'news worthy'. Do I agree? ABSOLUTELY! In normal circumstances, this is not suitable for any type of PR. But one thing that people are missing is that this is a start up company that wants as much exposure as possible and what's the best way to get exposure? Well, one of them is to have your company mentioned weekly on THOUSANDS of websites and thus putting you up in the search engine rankings as well as giving an opportunity for articles to be written about you. Every time a PR is realeased by Q, good or bad, thousands of websites automatically display it. Q isn't releasing these because we as investors care, they want to provide as many opportunities for stories as possible and to get our name all over the web. As long as they keep releasing PR's, we will get coverage, even if they aren't good.
He's right guys, how dare we question anything that is going on with Q. It's not like we have money in it or anything... ohhhh wait... we have millions of dollars on this board alone! We have every right and responsiblity to bring up the good the bad and the ugly.
With all due respect that was perhaps the most ridiculous statement I ever heard. It didn't even include an 'IMO'. If a carrier announcement was released, people would not drive to Sundance and disrupt it, and because one hasn't been released that doesn't mean he is holding one.
It has to do with two letters that we may never get away from - MM. We could be in every television in every home and it is possible that they would keep pushing us down
Skunks why do you post PR's when yesterday you said you don't care if any promises are broken in them? To you that would mean they should all lose their validity.
I agree, as investors that is our responsibility, not to blindly follow everything that is said and pump the stock no matter what happens. If they do something wrong, we will call them on it. That doesn't mean we don't think Q is a great company, it simply means that we care a hell of a lot more about Q than people who will pump this stock under all circumstances.
Just answer and make it clear for everyone Skunks, do you care if Q breaks promises in their PR's?
OMG, all I am saying is that IT MATTERS! It made people invest in the company based on a false statement. That is unethical, that was my only statement, not that Q sucks, or that they weren't going anywhere, just that it was wrong. But the blind pumpers here don't care in the least.
So if Q breaks a promise in every single PR, it is OK?
Read all my posts, of course I care about who the hosts are, almost all of us do, my point is that it is stupid not be care about any broken promises. I own a ton of shares and am very very PRO Q, but it seems that there is no one here that cares about the PR's or what is said in them and how it could mislead other investors.
So you admit it was a broken promise, you post more than anyone here, of course you knew of it. Just answer the question I keep asking:
Do you or don't you care about anything said in the PR's, if they break promises, or how they can affect other potential investors, long or short?
Please answer the question and here is the one I kept referring to:
"We are currently in the process of picking the final host of the show and we have cut the field down to six well-known gay personalities. We will announce the host names along with the sponsors late next week," said Olsen.
Please do not use the argument that he 'could have announced it, just not in a PR'. When that kind of message is put into a PR, it is expected by all investors that the followup will also be available to them.
Me too, just answer the question:
Do you or don't you care about anything said in the PR's, if they break promises, or how they can affect other potential investors, long or short?
So you don't care about anything said in the PR's, if they break promises, or how they can affect other potential investors, long or short?
And it is great to be positive, I am, but you would have to be the worst investor in the world to not care in the slightest when a PR is released saying that we will have two nationally known hosts announed by a certain day and the promise is broken with no explanation.
Thank you