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CDR: I've been a shareholder since late '96, and I'd be glad to join forces with other longs who wish to pursue an investigation on the activities of certain bashers who have not only tried to manipulate the share price through distortions of the truth, but have also interfered with EDIG's business by harassing reviewers and placing false product reviews on music websites.
LL - Why not post on Agora? Is there a problem with that thread?
LGJ: My suggestion is to use Agoracom. Their forum is well moderated.
Without longs this board would be dead. Who would bashers respond to?
Hi Blackdog! My O1000 arrived this AM shortly after I left my house. I'm going to charge her tonight, load her tomorrow and give her a trial run this weekend. I'll let you know how she behaves.
Tech: How about surprising us with some constructive criticism?
2manyfatcats, I ordered second day delivery too. I was just told that I will have my player on Friday. My order number is 14286.
2manyfatcats: Did you order 2nd day delivery?/
Sentinel, IMO Mossberg is pro Apple. Count on a luck luster review at best.
Sentinel, Do you really think a war in Iraq will effect EDIG's PPS?
Sentinel, Your ticker is right./
Sentinel, A PR would be a good idea...not necessarily for the share price, but as a way to let more people know that the O1000 is available. After all, EDIG needs to sell units.
FWIW, I purchased one today. I plan to give a full report.
.175 X .185 - last .178 - vol. 250,900./
That's right doni. It's called spin./
NEW YORK (Jan. 28) - The owners of the Kazaa file-sharing network are trying to defend a copyright-infringement lawsuit by alleging that the entertainment industry promotes piracy by failing to work with them to create a legal alternative.
In court papers filed in Los Angeles, Sharman Networks Ltd. accused several movie studios and recording labels of antitrust violations.
``The plaintiffs have failed to reasonably act to discourage infringing conduct, and the plaintiffs thereby promote the very infringing conduct about which they complain,'' Sharman said Monday.
Kazaa is a system in which Internet users around the world can share movies, music and other digital materials. Although Kazaa claims it does not condone copyright infringement, users can easily get copyright materials shared by other users through the Kazaa network.
More than 4 million users were sharing some 832 million files Tuesday afternoon.
Copyright lawyers termed Kazaa's antitrust defense a stretch and noted that Napster and others have failed before with similar arguments.
Owners of copyright generally have wide discretion over whether or not to license their works to specific individuals or groups, said Evan Cox, a lawyer with Covington & Burling in San Francisco.
``The argument that they somehow have to license people who they view as having gone out and deliberately infringing their copyright by itself is not going to get them far,'' Cox said.
Eric A. Prager, a lawyer with Darby & Darby in New York, said the most the antitrust claims would likely do is make the lawsuit more expensive for the entertainment companies. During the evidentiary phase known as discovery, Sharman lawyers could now be permitted to broaden the scope of their questioning of industry witnesses.
In the latest filing, Sharman said that the movie and recording industries do not understand the digital age and are monopolizing entertainment.
The counterclaim was in response to the industry's copyright-infringement lawsuit against Sharman and other file-sharing services, accusing them of providing free access to copyright music and movies to millions of Internet users in the United States.
Just two weeks ago, U.S. District Judge Stephen V. Wilson in Los Angeles dismissed Sharman's claim that it could not be sued in the United States because it is based in Australia and incorporated in the South Pacific nation of Vanuatu.
Wilson found Sharman subject to U.S. copyright laws because it has substantial usage by Californians and its actions are alleged to contribute to commercial piracy within the United States.
Sharman's counterclaim essentially argues that the recording industry ``obscenely overreached'' and lost its right to enforce copyright by monopolizing movies and songs.
It seeks a jury trial, damages, attorney fees and a permanent injunction barring the entertainment industry from trying to enforce its copyrights.
Movie studios involved in the lawsuit include Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc., Columbia Pictures Industries Inc., Disney Enterprises Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. The recording labels are BMG, EMI, Sony, Universal and Warner.
In a statement, the Recording Industry Association of America called Sharman's arguments ``laughable.''
``Sharman's claims are akin to the thief who plunders Fort Knox and then claims she's not responsible because Fort Knox declined to buy her second-rate security system,'' the RIAA said.
Marta Grutka, a spokeswoman for the Motion Picture Association of America, called it ``just another tactic to divert away from the fundamental issue'' of copyright violations.
01/28/03 16:18 EST
LL - I bet Digitalway will do the manufacturing. My point is that EDIG has the contract and that funding will come from the airline.
Stephen, It's called contract manufacturing. The airlines fund it just as Fujitsu is funding the manufacture of the Eclipse. EDIG gets a deposit and the final payment after delivery. The O1000 is a retail item. It only has potential customers, therefore it must be funded by EDIG.
I hope this helps
No Stephen..EDIG is manufacturing the players and making a mark-up. They are also receiving revenues from content rentals and maintenance of the units. Don't you read the PRs?
CDR, The O1000 allows the user to record FM transmissions./
CDR, They fly transcontinental and overseas as well./
CDR, It did not mention FM recording. As I stated in my earlier post, I don't think that MOST consumers will pay $100 for the Voice nav and FM recording.
Hi Stephen!
Thanks./
D.inkie, That's a gas! How did you do it?/
gernb1: IMO this device is very well priced. I'm not sure how the dimensions stack up against the O1000's. The O1000 has has voicenav and FM recording, but I don't think that most consumers will be willing to pay the extra $100 for those features.
I hope the $269 retail price was a typo.
CDR, What is SP? TIA./
Sentinel, he must have really needed the 14 plus million./
Edig had a plan. That's why they registered 20MM shelf shares when the stock was trading at $1.25. When the registration was finally approved the stock was trading below .50 and the retail markets were tanking. Thus their plan failed.
I agree that the labels should have adopted secure downloads.
Packers, That's a bad analogy. Watching a video at a friends house is not the same as making a digital copy and taking it home. Compound that with the fact that millions of others have access to the same file and you can see the problems facing labels and studios. What happens when it's no longer feasible for a studio to produce a $100MM budget film because piracy has taken too big a chunk from their revenue stream?
Zack, Your ego may be 6'3", but doubt that your head clears my shoulder.
doni, I was at the Intel pavilion in 2001 and I would have to guess quite a few.
Tenderloin: It may have gotten good reviews, but it was an over priced flop.
Sentinel: Eastech is saying "show me the money" after the last deal.
Right Jimee! Intel did a bang up job with their last player. It lasted several months before they pulled it and closed their CE division.
Zack, When you're an older man you realize that youth is wasted on the young. IMO you're trashing the best years of your life.
Best of luck
Moxa, What Jimee is saying is that because EDIG is a loser he owns the stock and posts 24/7 on its message boards.
Zack, I don't make public disclosures about my business....I don't have to. I will however gladly admit that I had nothing to do with the production of EDIG's commercial. Quite frankly I think you could have done better.
BTW, Rootus is a pretty nice guy. You could learn a great deal from him.
Also MSFT has a bigger bankroll...no?/
CDR, it must be terribly dreadful!/
So jimee, why are you holding stock? Why do you bother posting?