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You really think the Chinese couldn't figure out how to make BMG without having to buy LQMT?? Seriously?
It's an article similar to the Patently Apple article suggesting that the back of the IPhone 11 Pro could be metallic glass.
Hate to blow up your theory, but all the information we have been receiving is from China and not from LQMT US. So your post contradicts all that has happened the past couple years.
Untrue, this will not be done until LQMT is profitable. Big part you are leaving out.
There are no authoritative posters on this Board. Present company included. I've been here too long to pull the wool over my eyes.
Its changed multiple times. And his bio says he's 35 years old.
Eontec Q&A:
Hello, Secretary! Does the company have supplied magnesium alloy doors for Tesla in bulk? Thank you! i Irm1850165·
2019-10-13· Source Website Yi'an Technology 2019-10-13 Hello! Thank you for your interest in the company. The company did not supply magnesium alloy doors to Tesla in bulk, but the company's liquid metal automotive door locks and other aluminum and magnesium alloy auto parts products have been supplied to Tesla in bulk. Thank you!
Yes, because it's a medical design and manufacturing show, so they are show casing 105 which is approved for various medical uses. 105 can be used in Eon's machines, so Engel is not needed.
The advertisement says "20 Million Parts Produced Annually ".
Doesn't say specifically BMG parts. It can't be just Martin and Zyris. Even at a measly dollar per part, that's $20M annual revenue.
Either it is a typo or a sign that some substantial revenue is coming the next few quarters.
1-5 Billion is considered small cap. You can count all the shares if you want, but that is unrealistic as half of them are locked up. Do the math, $1-$2 is easily achievable once they get into the black.
I find it interesting they specifically call out “water jetting” as this was something claimed by Asus that they developed to help improve the part cutting process. This tells me that Yihao/LQMT are in cooperation with Asus.
Eontec Q&A 9/29/19
Hello, this year is the first year of liquid metal. Congratulations on the market breakthrough in the liquid metal field. I think that for many years, the company has been looking for a liquid metal application market. The company has core technology, why not change its thinking and build its own Brands, producing their own liquid metal products, it is recommended to use the capital market to acquire or merge certain production companies to become bigger and stronger listed companies.
Yi'an Technology [300328]
Hello! Thank you for your interest in the company. Thank you very much for your valuable suggestions for the company's business development. Based on the existing main business, the company will make full use of the advantages of the listed company platform, effectively integrate various external resources, and strive to achieve positive interaction through capital operation and industrial development. Open up more development space for the company's business, enhance the company's operating performance and profitability, and give back to our investors. Thank you!
Are you serious? So the fact that it is from Liquidmetal's website, has Liquidmetal's name and logo, and references Liquidmetalt's sales team and phone number in LF, means it is not us? Do you think Kang put this out? LOL!
BTW, it states "Liquidmetal has partnered with Yihao Metal to bring you the best in amorphous metal manufacturing technology...faster!"
Not sure what you do not understand about Yihao being our manufacturing partner, which is clearly stated. Perhaps you should study more about how third party manufacturing works.
How can the reference to CE be from the "past" when so many posters here note over and over that the company stated in their company reports that they are not producing CE? Can't have it both ways.
This is the most recent marketing brochure from the company and it clearly states established production in CE. No way around this.
Please see my post #180628 from earlier today. It will answer the questions you are asking.
Thank you again for clarifying for this board.
That is in the past. Please refer to their most recent marketing brochure they posted. If can be found at "mowo's" post that is stickied at the top.
Quote: "Established production in consumer electronics, consumer products, automotive, medical and industrial markets"
"200,000 SF of Manufacturing Space"
"40 Amorphous Metal Machines (Current)"
"90+ Amorphous Metal Machines (Projected Year end)
THIS IS FROM LIQUIDMETAL TECHNOLOGIES - NOT EONTEC.
Josh, are there two different variants of 106C? One with Rhenium (Re) and one without? Or does 106C not contain Rhenium (Re)?
Li's presentation at one point showed Rhenium (Re) in 106C.
Aha, very good catch Josh, that is in fact 106C (Nb) in Table 1.
So it looks like Apple, post CIP, is looking at 106C!
This is excellent news for LQMT!
It could be an acknowledgment by Apple that they only have rights to 105. This a post CIP patent afterall....
Yes that was filed back in 2014 by Zadeski so I understand why he used "Liquidmetal ". But anything post CIP has not referenced this, let alone a specific formula from LQMT. So I am still finding this very odd and think it may have significance.
I know of no such patents from 2018 and follow pretty closely. So please share link. There may have been one that referenced "liquid metal " but that is still a generic term.
Please see the "mowo" post that is stickied at the top. Look closely at the image and you will learn more about where this company will be end of this year.
Well aware of this, nearly all patents reference multiple materials. It is just highly abnormal for Apple to do this when you look at all of their recent BMG related patents.
I recall Josh saying there were issues getting the proper finished look with 105 (noted at the open house) which was one of the reasons why LQMT (according to Josh) was moving to 106C as it was much easier to get a proper finish.
So why not call out 106C in the patent? Or just leave it in generic terms like the other patents?
Yes, those were many years back. Nothing recent.
Still trying to figure out why this recent Apple patent specifically calls out LM105.
All of Apple's patents in recent years have just noted generic terms like amorphous alloy or metallic glass.
Why do this?
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/09/25/kuo-2020-iphones-to-boast-redesigned-metal-frame/
Kuo says Apple will change its flagship iPhone design "significantly" next year. Specifically, the new devices will feature a new metal frame with "a more complex segmentation design, new trenching and injection molding procedures, and sapphire or glass cover assembly to protect the trench injection molding structure."
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10131022
[0112] Another embodiment for forming the integral housing and transparent member is shown in FIGS. 6 and 7. In this embodiment, a bulk-solidifying amorphous alloy can be provided in the form of a sheet or rod or band and then heated and formed around the transparent member. A mold apparatus 600 can be used, although not necessary, to form the bulk-solidifying housing around the transparent member 16. As shown in FIG. 6, mold assembly 600 may include a surface onto which transparent member 16 can placed. Surrounding that surface can be a groove or trench 610 into which the bulk-solidifying amorphous alloy material may be positioned to form a band around transparent member 16.
[0113] In accordance with this embodiment, the bulk-solidifying amorphous alloy band 12 is heated to a temperature above its glass transition temperature and below its crystallization temperature so that it can be themoplastically deformed. Because the band 12 is not heated past its crystallization temperature, the alloy remains substantially in its amorphous state, and despite being amorphous, can be easily formed into a variety of shapes and sizes. As shown in FIG. 7, the heated bulk-solidifying amorphous alloy band 12 can be positioned in groove or trench 610 and bent around transparent member 16 as shown by the direction of arrow A. Once completely surrounding transparent member 16, any excess band 12 can be cut and joined to the remainder of the band by further heating or using other conventional joining techniques to form a seamless bulk-solidifying amorphous alloy housing 12.
[0114] The bulk-solidifying amorphous alloy housing 12 then can be further processed as described above. In addition to the further processing, the various ports 20, 22, 24 (FIG. 3) can be formed into housing 12 by stamping, punching, slitting, cutting, or any other known technique capable of forming a suitable through-hole. Alternatively, mold apparatus 600 may include protrusions in groove or trench 610 may include protrusions 720, 722, 724 around which band 12 can be stretched and formed to form ports 20, 22, 24, respectively. Transparent member 16 also may include protrusions or cavities, as discussed above, to assist in joining the respective members together. There also may be present an intermediate member, as discussed above, to further facilitate joining the transparent member 16 and the bulk-solidifying amorphous alloy housing 12, or bezel 14.
I find it interesting that the patent specifically calls out LM105. This is unusual for Apple to do in recent years. And I think it may have significance.
Josh noted that LM105 was being phased out but yet it specifically shows up in an Apple patent.
I recall you were waiting for all those 23 cent shares to “drop in your lap”. Sounds like a day trader and not an investor.
I'm sure he had lots of great moments, just for himself and not the shareholders.
The Q&A on Eontec's website already stated that these camera modules were in production for domestic (Chinese) phone manufacturers. So the photo on the website is likely a module for a Chinese phone.
"The licenses granted to Eontec and LMT under this Agreement shall exclude the following products and fields of use:
a. Any Consumer Electronic Products (as defined below) or any components or sub-components suitable for use with any Consumer Electronic Products. ..."
We obviously know this is not true any longer as BMG is being marketed in the US in CE. So something had to have changed there, we just don't know....yet.
"That isn't even close to paraphrasing what the Parallel Licensing Agreement says. Eon only promised to "take such action and measures as shall be necessary to ensure that Eontec Licensed Products are not sold or resold in or into the LMT Exclusive Territory."
Really? Not even close? I would beg to differ, but you are welcomed to your opinion. Seems pretty clear to me that revenues will be based on geography. You already had this debate with Josh, so lets not go here again.
There likely will not be contract announcements with any company because of NDA's. So we may not be informed of this until revenue shows up in the quarterly's. As to your Eon comment, check the geographic restrictions for licensing. BMG's sold in LQMT's territory will be licensed to them, not Eon.
Yes, it is not identical. The pics on Yihao are likely older for one of the Chinese makers as this photo has been there for a long time. It is close enough to be a very good chance of being ours. Just a slightly different mold.
"but all shareholders want is a contract and for the defendant to fade off into oblivion."
I as a shareholder want more than that. I want our attorney fee covered and additional money for damages from lost customers.
I believe this is why Liquidmetal Goatings was named in this and not just Kang as LMC has $$ and I sure Kang has nothing monetarily tied to his name.
Here is the camera bracket from Yihao's website: http://www.yihaometal.com/?p=9096
It certainly does look to be the same exact bracket.
Not to mention paid for a large electrical upgrade as they were anticipating a significant increase in production. There may be substantial damages they can claim. Allot more than just getting their attorney fees paid for.
Not sure what you are talking about. Can you clarify? There was language posted on their website that did reference Apple specifically a couple years ago (I have a copy of it). But that was removed within 24 hours so clearly it was a mistake. I am not aware of any photos ever posted on their website referencing Apple. There have been photos posted here of Eon tables at various conferences/symposiums which had BMG items on their table that looked like Apple parts or items. But never on the website.
After watching that video, I would agree that the hinge is something stronger than stainless or titanium.
It wasn't sent to LQMT. I don't think there was a recipient name on it which was why no one could figure it out. It was definitely Houston as final destination and from Eon. Because I remember trying to find any other materials company in/around Houston to try to figure it out.
That was a different shipment. The one I am referring to came from Eon, I believe through the port of LA and then to Houston.