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http://www.investing.com/indices/volatility-s-p-500-technical?period=300
click on the chart/candlestick section
IT SURE LOOOKED LIKE THEY WERE SHORTING IT IN THE 3.30'S. WHY WOULD THEWY DO THAT AND NOT WAIT TILL 3.60?
WAS THAT A SHORT COVER RALLY?
SORRY FOR THE CAPS.
saw the call you made last Friday nice. wondering if you have a re-entry point today?
Thx
can you or someone else elaborate on this and interpretation of the chart?
thanks
meh, sell off before election night. hildabeast will seal it, and tomorrow will be back to the same.
nah. that 38k jobs report had to be complete BS/reason not to raise rates. That number just does not make any sense other than to give yellen ammo not to raise. She would have had to if not for that number. this whole fucking market is rigged by those currently in power, to keep their party in power.
fuck the people. put the compressor to the balloon....
when you said you were going in I assumed you meant buy. so now you're saying you shorted it this AM??????????????????
yeah I hear you. funny thing is one day good news is bad news for the market because it might spur a rate.
next day good news runs it up like they don't believe the fed at all.
might as well be trying to figure out how a woman thinks....
what's everyones thinking on why the market continues to run?
Is it just me, or does it seem unethical for the issuer of an investment vehicle to short the hell out of it and keep it from rising?
it may be common practice, but it's a good way to run off some folks.
I watched the other day as the SPX and VXX rose and this stayed stagnant. I was a bit in disbelief. then I read this:
Institutional Ownership and Activity
The TVIX had 36.77 million outstanding shares as of April 2016. As the issuer of the TVIX, Credit Suisse is the top institutional holder, with 105.5% of the outstanding shares, followed by algorithmic trading and market making firms Jane Street Capital LLC with 5%, Flow Traders US LLC with 1.9%, and CMT Trading LLC with 0.6%. The total institutional holdings amount to 114.4% of the total float, as the time of the report on May 24, 2016. Institutional ownership reporting can lag by up to four weeks depending on the particular institution. The exceptionally high ownership indicates that the excess 14.4% of the shares were loaned out for shorting transactions at the time of the reported holdings. Due to the exceptionally fast price decay, it is not uncommon for institutions to box a long TVIX position by short-selling the identical number of TVIX shares, at least temporarily, to buy time for the next move.
To that I say this POS can kiss my arse. so CS is shorting it, only to buy in lower... Like today you can see some divergence between the VXX and the TVIX price, as it looks like someone is loading up, or covering their short positions. fuck you CS and TVIX.
why is the VXX not up when the spx is down????
buffett.....the old geezer trying to help his Dem friends prop up the market
apparently he hasn't gone short yet.
probably because he's so tied in to the administration he get's the word before the street and knows whats going to happen. i.e. hikes, bailouts etc.
they've had buffett plastered on every headline saying things are great.
if it starts to falter he'll just cal his boy Obama and hit him up for a news conference from him or one of his many crooks at the fed.
I'm here, got my ABC (anything but clinton) shirt on, Trump hat, rebel flag, mullet and wife beater on full display. even smacked a few illegals for fun.
thx. I was thinking the same on reentry
true... I was referencing the 2074 support
found this nugget:
Icahn, in an interview with cable television network CNBC, also said he was "still very cautious" on the U.S. stock market and there would be a "day of reckoning" unless there was some sort of fiscal stimulus.
perhaps Trump has someone to counter the ponzi scheme the govt is using to keep their Dem puppets in power.
could get interesting.
kicking myself now.
don't get too chirpy. The S&P held support
Amazon must have crushed earnings, it's running HUGE.
perhaps I still have a chance to get in.
It looks like Ichan saying he was out of AAPL is what sparked this.
what price.
my ass is still sore, watching closely..
congrats to those who held.
##%%$^%$&& damn it to me who sold!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was in for 100k shares. Sold at 3.30 yesterday.
now this turd burglar is looking to rise. FML
Also,
When I said $2.00 on TVIX based on decay....
I know this is based on the VXX......BUT THAT'S THE SCARY PART!!!
It's already below all time low's and is going to be lucky to find a bid soon. The VIX at 13.77 has about another 2.00 to drop before it double bottoms.
So who knows where the bottom is for TVIX. They say it reverse splits about once a year due to the 80-90% yearly decay factor.
Here are my thoughts and predictions.
It’s pretty clear that Yellen’s purpose is to prop up the market, whether that be at Obama’s direction for the election, or wall street’s. My bet is on Obama. They changed the outcome of the last election by lying about Benghazi and will probably try to do the same, this time with the stock market. i.e. no rate hikes soon
This market has no basis on fundamentals. It’s driven by oil and the fed.
My next buy points here, regardless of technical on the TVIX chart is:
211.50 on the Spy / 2115 on the SPX / $50 oil
Last hit on 11/3/2015 – SPX hit 2116 that day and closed at 2109. Oil was also $50!
Will sell Tvix at SPY/SPX support as I think the market goes higher after the pullback
If Brexit does not happen that will definitely give this another leg up. That’s on 6/23
Odds low of rate hike in June- Obama’s orders.
213 on the Spy / 2132 on SPX / $52 oil (all this came together 7/20/2015 and is right at ATH)
Last hit on 7/20/2015, The VXX was $16 that day, VIX triple bottom at 11.75
Think about it, when best to have a bug pullback except when everyone is on vacation!
That being said, with 13% monthly decay on the TVIX. From 3.25 that’s roughly 1.25 in decay in roughly 3 months. Taking this bad boy to the 2.00 range!!!!
End rant/
I'm going back to do some magic formulations and come up with a target, and sticking to it this time!
off to the charts!
I'll sleep well tonight being out
then wake to the horror of futures down 20 points LOL
I sold, I'll buy back, but this could gap down tomorrow. can't believe with the AAPL results, google insider selling shares......everything has been thrown at this market and it is holding high.
just can't take the losses/stress either.
funny thing is I predicted 3.25 when it was in the 5's
and didn't follow my own words. :-/
ten handles?
you saying the pop from 2085 to 2095?
thats it? -- does that mean you think thats good for us.
exhausted? does that mean your out.
thx, just trying to translate.
and the ponzi scheme continues.....
thats just it. the VXX has double bottomed, the spx has triple topped.. I could name 1/2 dozen other things, just silly to sell now IMO.
thanks bro......and the wife wonders why I have a few too many some nights. LOL
little does she know....
it's friggin nerve racking thats for sure!!!!
3.73?? I wish. my avg is in the 4.40's
for 100k+ shares. :-/
7/14????
what price do you think TVIX gets to if spy hits 185?
my daughter was told at 3 that santa and the eastern bunny were not real :-/
true story lol
ok, selling 100k shares today at the low. thanks for the heads up
it's to tedious to try and argue a point with a lawyer......my wife anyway.