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Rob Phillips thank you for the reply.. I do have a buy
order for "NGLE" however the limit price is LOW ..
"NGLE" will be a flipper about 2 years before it can start
paying off..
"I do really expect things to eventually end up around .55 - .57"
"AVTX" I look for a large sell off at 0.25 and a drop..
then a run to your price of 0.55
Its all up to the CEO..
I feel that he would like to see "AVTX" shoot past
a buck in one shot..
"conspiracy of the MM's manipulating the price"
Law of supply and demand will rule..
I do feel that the MM's are 10% to 15% short.
As a rule the MM's can get out of this problem
and no one will know..
"once again, I've no intention of burning anyone, but be aware the very short term runs to .08 aren’t always me, but they are very rarely spontaneous.
That's the real world . . . sorry if it's not very nice."
Sure is, speed is what counts..
IMO Jolyn
New "TCNH" Board and if you holding "MRKL" You should get
"TCNH" shares..
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=6069
Only one post on the new board.. Who will be number #2
IMO Jolyn
Welcome all Jolyn
ironyman "sell order for 500,000 shares@ 1.25."
Yes more of should us should do the same..
We need to open the MM's eyes.
IMO Jolyn
ironyman and Cytotekk "Joyln,,,YEA!...What she said...Oh!"
Oh? Oh no lets have look..
"Good lord Joyln, if you plan on holding both SEPARATE companies"
Never think of "NGLE" as being separte..
"NGLE" is cool
"AVTX" rules..
"NGLE" is a good long term investment..
I should be able to buy into "NGLE" less than 0.005
Would you two like to give me a date as to
when "NGLE" will be paying its next stock dividend?
At best it will be 2 to 3 years before "NGLE"
can pay a dividend..
"then why on earth are you criticizing this one before they ever really get off the ground?
The truth is not criticizing or bashing.
"Doubt AVTX will promote Niteagle, had the chance in the last interview and it did not happen."
IMO "AVTX" will promote "NGLE" in the meantime the
insiders and their frinds will be buying "AVTX"
shares.
Lets not forget that we are in "AVTX" a shake out.
"Doubt people would have started this thing up if they did not have a decent shot at success,"
Yes "NGLE" has a decent shot at success, but we
are talking 2 or 3 years..
"especially if some of the absent AVTX longs are involved,"
LOL "NGLE" people are out of "AVTX" don't count it.
"NGLE" people are thinking a fast run up and dump..
buy back when I do..
"If you want to discuss AVTX do it on that thread."
"AVTX"/"NGLE"/I-6 to understand one you must understand
all 3
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11740657
"This is not the Son of AVTX as you say. Far from it."
My english is poor please forgive me.
I should have said
"NGLE" Red-Headed Step-Son of "AVTX"
"This is a totally separate company that will be paying royalties to AVTX for certain length of time."
No..
"NGLE" will pay royalties for a very long time..
"NGLE" will live under the boot of "AVTX"
"AVTX" giveth and "AVTX" can taketh away...
Yup we are talking about "NGLE"
"As soon as the Niteagle Website is no long blank or they file with the SEC, we will have information to discuss, right now, this thread really isn't good for much."
Not so
"See you on the AVTX thread."
Yes and this thread
IMO Jolyn
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NGLE: Niteagle Sytems, Inc. Easy DD
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11654878
""NGLE"Change: -0.54 -72.00% You better get into another
stock"
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11713594
Rob Phillips,Mr Bobo,loss_slayer,ironyman I would like to
to hear your opinions about NITEAGLE SYSTEMS INC
Please read this post first
"NITEAGLE SYSTEMS INC"
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11732546
Am I right or wrong..? About "NGLE"
Also the Moderator of "NGLE" is Incarcerated holds a lot of
"AVTX" shares.. Someone should take that job
;that can see what is best for "AVTX"..
After all NITEAGLE SYSTEMS INC is
the son of ADVANCE TECHS INC
IMO
Thank you Jolyn
"I have not intentions of helping Niteagle at AVTX's expense.
Many AVTX longs sold out to buy NGLE, THAT is why we got down to .023..they sold millions of AVTX shars over the last year. They thing NGLE will be what they can cash in on. .10 PP shares.
"I have a feeling Niteagle people don't like Ball..."
Colleen"
From another "AVTX" board.
Posted by: Cytotekk
"Lot's of money required to get thing into production and on the market. At .10, do the math.
I did the math It will be a few years before
any shareholder of "NGLE"
will ever sees a dividend..
In the meantime "AVTX" will be sucking up the profit
of "NGLE"
"NGLE" will not go broke and in time will be worth a few $'s
a share.. and pay a dividend after dividend.
Lots of PP shareholders in NGLE and some stuckholders from the old company (I expect them to sell if they don't like what they see, if they ever see it)...a year commitment and two years to sell under the radar.
I think I should start posting good old posts extolling AVTX of our old friends who have disappeared"
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11468124
I will buy "NGLE" in the sub-pennys..
Flip "NGLE" all the way to $2.00 a share..
Because of the on going "AVTX" shake out..
Lets keep our focus on "AVTX" and "NGLE"
"Seems to me Niteagle has to do something before you can criticize them!"
Mark my words "AVTX" will pump "NGLE" first..
I feel sorry for the shareholders of "AVTX"
that sell their stock and buy "NGLE"
and that is just what the "AVTX" insiders want..
"please stop selling AVTX on this thread"
NITEAGLE SYSTEMS INC Son of ADVANCE TECHS INC
Please before its over I will be holding both
stocks ..
I am long on both stocks
There is a time to buy a stock and a time not to buy a stock..
IMO Thank you Jolyn
loss_slayer yuck!yuck! LOL This is MM's fools play..
Stop thinking like a male.. Have a look..
Price Size Exch Time
0.023 5000 OBB 12:27:21
0.024 10000 OBB 12:26:18
0.025 5000 OBB 12:20:12
0.0245 56000 OBB 12:15:24
0.0245 56000 OBB 12:09:55
0.0245 50000 OBB 12:09:47
0.0245 50000 OBB 11:43:11
0.0245 5000 OBB 11:42:26
0.0245 5000 OBB 11:41:25
0.0245 5000 OBB 11:40:24
0.0245 5000 OBB 11:39:23
0.0245 5000 OBB 11:38:23
Oods are these are ALL MM's trades
between MM's..
Have looked at the other "AVTX" boards..
for anyone that got any of those shares..?
I did not fine anyone..
The MM's are tradeing between them selfs..
Now who would sell at this price..
Buy if you can..
The MM's will print you some shares..
As I have stated before the MM's
10% to 15% short..Before its over the MM's
will send out Bashers..
IMO Thank you Jolyn
"NGLE" Change: -0.54 -72.00% for this is good..
That is if your holding "AVTX"
You better get into "AVTX" Now..!!
It will be years before any shareholder of "NGLE"
will ever sees a dividend..
In the meantime "AVTX" will be sucking up the profit
from "NGLE"
The "AVTX" shake-out is on going..
I have stated on other boards that
"NGLE" could end up in the sub-pennys with-in a year.
I stand by that call
Niteagle Systems Inc. NGLE next stop sub-penny
In the meantime "AVTX" will be sucking up the profit
of "NGLE"
Now boys lets try this again..
To study "NGLE" you must study "AVTX"
AVTX easy DD: Posted by: Cytotekk
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11427269
As for myself I am buying all the "AVTX" I can..
So far there are two spin-offs...NGLE and I6...
"AVTX" shareholder get I6 shares as a dividend!..
IMO Thank you Jolyn
Change: -0.54 -72.00% you better get into "AVTX" Now..!!
It will be years before any shareholder of "NGLE"
will ever sees a dividend..
In the meantime "AVTX" will be sucking up the profit
from "NGLE"
The "AVTX" shake-out is on going..
I have stated on other boards that
"NGLE" could end up in the sub-pennys with-in a year.
I stand by that call
Niteagle Systems Inc. NGLE next stop sub-penny
In the meantime "AVTX" will be sucking up the profit
of "NGLE"
Now boys lets try this again..
To study "NGLE" you must study "AVTX"
AVTX easy DD: Posted by: Cytotekk
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11427269
As for myself I am buying all the "AVTX" I can..
So far there are two spin-offs...NGLE and I6...
"AVTX" shareholder get I6 shares as a dividend!..
IMO Thank you Jolyn
loss_slayer "the don't have to acquire shares...they make em."
Not in this case the "AVTX" CEO got his feeling hurt..
Males don't like that..Plus he is getting old..
Odds are the "AVTX" CEO and his friends and family..
will all end up millionaires..
There is no question..
That "AVTX" is in a good shake-out
From the inside..
Buy while you can..
The buy is "AVTX" it could go over a $1.00 a share in a year
IMO thank you Jolyn
loss_slayer you must try harder if your going to
keep up with me..
NGLE: Niteagle Sytems, Inc. Easy DD:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11654878
Now the "AVTX" shake-out is on-going..
Our "AVTX" CEO knows whats he is doing..
he will hold the lid on everything until
they have bought all the "AVTX" shares they can..
IMO Jolyn
NGLE: Niteagle Sytems, Inc. Easy DD:
Could be "NGLE" a bad buy..
Book Value Per Share (mrq): 0.00
Operating Cash Flow (ttm): -76.35K
Levered Free Cash Flow (ttm): -237.45K
There are TWO "AVTX" spin offs so far...
NGLE and I6...
"AVTX" share holders will get I6 shares as a dividend!
"NGLE" will get to pay a fee to "AVTX" for every unit
they build and sell;
thats good for more dividends for the
shareholders of "AVTX".
Plus "NGLE" must kiss the hand of "AVTX"
"AVTX" can up the fees any time they feel like it...
Study this for Niteagle Sytems, Inc.
Operating Margin (ttm): -616.35%
Return on Assets (ttm): -121.53%
Return on Equity (ttm): -586.72%
It will be years before any shareholder of "NGLE"
ever sees a dividend..
The buy is "AVTX" it will go over a $1.00 a share fast.
"NGLE" could end up in the sub-pennys with-in a year.
http://www.niteagle.com/
LOL their web site is not working
To study "NGLE" you must study "AVTX"
AVTX easy DD: Posted by: Cytotekk
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11427269
As for myself I am buying all the "AVTX" I can..
IMO thank you Jolyn
loss_slayer Here you are stiring up our happy little board..
Now to keep you on your toes .. A little board DD
Look at these posts.. or parts of them..
Msg. 10963
"this is not funny.No real volume since lostlayer stopped posting. I wonder how ole l_s is doing now?"
"Yet when he or she posted the stock made good moves......"
Oh yes you have a fan club.. Now you are male Right??
If not Cytotekk and myself and I and me will make more room
for you...
"You guys shouldn't have run him off!"
This makes me feel bad..
Msg. 10964
"yeah IRONY_SLAYER it shows in the share price and volume how much you want more. lol"
Oh dear this is getting weired ...
You best read all the posts.. It get better..
1. Who is makeing these posts?
2. What board?
Now while your thinking about that look at what
I found about "AVTX"
"Advance Technologies Inc. operates through its Renewable Energy Systems & Technology and The Literacy Company subsidiaries. Renewable Energy Systems & Technology has sales rights for water-pumping windmills produced in China. The Literacy Company develops SpeedReading and RemedialReading software.
Want to see tomorrow's price for AVTX? Click here."
Now do you know anything about this?
Another spin-off?
If "AVTX" is setting up an off-shore corporation..
They only have to report the profit..
Now where did I fine that..?
Their 5-Day Forecast for "AVTX"
ironyman will like this forecast ..
Woe to the ones that are trying to buy
in the next 5 days ..
Oops what this? Msg. 10977 This msg. is a reply to 10975 by
"I have no intention to post to L_S.I know where he posts"
"Right now he is over there..."
"preaching the merits of HEC.He is good."
Well you will never see me stiring up the old pot..
IMO Thank you Jolyn..
Rob "undercutting my $1.25 sales price"
There are two schools of thoughts..
Some of us think Advance Technologies Inc. AVTX.OB
0.25 to 0.40 a share this year.
Some of us think Advance Technologies Inc. AVTX.OB
$1.00+ in a year or two years...
Now I am on the optimistic side of things
$1.00+ a share yes..
I feel that it will happen fast..
"Of course when I bought in at $3+ . . . oops,"
Oops? How long have you been in this stock..?
Have got your avg costs down..?
Its best to be one year early
as to one day late on buying into a stock..
Are you going to get into
Niteagle Sytems, Inc. NGLE I am not..
IMO Thank you Jolyn
ironyman I have this before on other stock if
we can get enough salers to put limit sales ..
It could kick something lose.
"the bid wacks?" don't understand what you mean?
The problem is some brokers will not take a limit
sale price that high fron the bid and ask..
This is why I use E-Trade plus their fast on the trades..
IMO Jolyn
Ironyman $1.15 is just a little spike..
Investors need shares and you can help them..
List your stock for 1.15 you need a payday..
The best part that my last post is on 3 boards..
All them will be pick up by Google in 24 hr.
IMO Jolyn
ironyman and ALL I selling my shares of "AVTX"
Order Type Sell
Qty xxx,xxx
Company Name and Symbol
ADVANCE TECHNOLOGIES INC (AVTX)
Price Type GTC/Limit/AON
Your Price $1.14
Estimated commission: $12.99
Estimated order proceeds: $xxx,xxx
Don't feel bad I may buy back in on the dip..
Lets wake up the MM's
This sell order is real..
Everyone should put their "AVTX" up for sell
Don't cut my price..
LOL they just took the order..
06/12/2006 Stock
Sell
xxx,xxx/AON
AVTX
Limit GTC 1.14 0.02
0.02
0.02
Open Change Cancel
IMO Jolyn
ironyman I selling my shares of "AVTX"
Order Type Sell
Qty xxx,xxx
Company Name and Symbol
ADVANCE TECHNOLOGIES INC (AVTX)
Price Type GTC/Limit/AON
Your Price $1.14
Estimated commission: $12.99
Estimated order proceeds: $xxx,xxx
Don't feel bad I may buy back in on the dip..
Lets wake up the MM's
This sell order is real..
Everyone should put their "AVTX" up for sell
Don't cut my price..
LOL they just took the order..
06/12/2006 Stock
Sell
xxx,xxx/AON
AVTX
Limit GTC 1.14 0.02
0.02
0.02
Open Change Cancel
IMO Jolyn
By:Gunner_0ne German airframer GROB is still in the testing and pre-certification phases of developing its planned SPn Utility Jet, but the company recently announced a series of upgrades -- to the light jet's interior, equipment and avionics -- designed to increase the type's flexibility and capability. GROB says its customers can now choose a new six-seat "executive" interior configuration including a full lavatory and galley, an auxiliary power unit (APU) and an enhanced vision system (EVS). Separately, both GROB and Honeywell announced enhancements to the jet's APEX Integrated Avionics suite for the GROB SPn cockpit, which Honeywell says offers "pilots the most user-friendly, intuitive displays available in business aviation." GROB's new interior configuration comprises four 18-inch single club seats plus two front-facing seats located in the aft cabin. All seats feature adjustable armrests and headrests, and can be reclined and rotated plus moved forward and aft. Other cabin appointments include four fold-out tables, six 110-volt outlets and LED lighting. The toilet or the galley can be located either front or aft in the cabin.
Meanwhile, the new APU -- something not normally available aboard aircraft of this size -- will provide power for engine start, avionics, and entertainment equipment, among others, as well as bleed air for environmental control. It will be certified for in-flight operation. The new EVS option is manufactured by Kollsman Inc., and will be fully integrated with the APEX avionics and display screens. The enhanced APEX includes TCAS II, weather radar and other functions fully integrated into the user-friendly controls, as well as greater software processing power to allow for future optional equipment, such as auto-throttle (AT) and emergency decent mode (EDM), among others. Other features possible with the Honeywell APEX suite include an optional electronic flight bag, a paperless-cockpit option, dual flight management systems to meet certain European requirements, an integrated Class A enhanced ground proximity warning system and the EVS. Recognizing the added choice now offered, Niall Olver, CEO of ExecuJet Aviation Group, which will market and support the SPn Utility Jet, said, "Today's new options now give customers more flexibility to configure and confidently operate their GROB SPn in a variety of applications including that of passenger service, air ambulance, cargo or multi mission transport."
IMO Ann
By:Gunner_0ne The future of head-up display technology
By Stephen Pope 2006
Head-up displays (HUDs) provide pilots with an array of flight-related information, when and where they need it most. The thick piece of HUD combiner glass that folds down and locks into position in front of the pilot’s eyes puts a veritable visual feast of instantly recognizable symbology directly in the forward field of vision. On a nonprecision approach at night or in poor weather, this data is of huge value, particularly when viewed in the context of past aircraft accident investigations.
Early HUDs developed for civil aviation typically showed the same data that is available on a head-down primary flight display (PFD)– namely airspeed, altitude, localizer, glideslope and so on. Today’s HUDs offer a far broader menu of symbology, including a flight-path marker, path and airspeed trend vectors, angle-of-attack readout, runway depictions, landing-flare cues, runway-remaining information, tailstrike warning, unusual-attitude-recovery symbology, TCAS resolution advisories and other vital data. Add to this list the recent certification of HUD-based infrared enhanced- vision systems (EVS) and the ongoing research of database-derived synthetic-vision systems (SVS), and the potential value of HUDs as a tool for improved situational awareness is readily evident.
Talk to any pilot who uses a HUD regularly and you’re likely to hear nothing but praise for the technology. But besides anecdotal evidence about the usefulness of HUD, there is solid scientific data that points to the safety benefits of the technology. A detailed analysis by the Flight Safety Foundation determined that HUDs might have prevented or positively influenced 31 percent of 1,079 civil jet transport accidents that occurred during its study period between 1959 and 1989, before HUDs had entered aviation’s mainstream.
After completing its study, the foundation recommended that airlines and business-jet operators install HUDs that display angle-of-attack information and airspeed-trend data to help pilots monitor the airplane’s energy state and projected touchdown point during approach and landing, saying these were keys to improving safety during this critical phase of flight.
“The growing use of head-up displays is a positive trend for improving safety,” noted Stuart Matthews, Flight Safety Foundation president and CEO, in a recent status report on civil HUDs, adding that foundation studies “have pointed to HUDs as a potent and available tool for safety enhancement.”
Available, yes, but not quite commonplace in business aircraft cockpits in spite of the clear safety benefits of the technology. While a number of manufacturers have begun offering HUD as standard equipment in their top-of-the-line aircraft, such devices are still generally the exception in the vast majority of cockpits.
The high cost of HUD hardware (current systems sell for more than $500,000 apiece) has made the technology a tough sell for many operators, not to mention that the sheer size of the overhead projection equipment that constitutes a modern HUD system fits only in larger jets.
But all this could be about to change. The introduction of very light jets (VLJs) into aviation’s mainstream will no doubt create markets for a host of products and services to cater to the needs of the new breed of VLJ pilots and operators, and compact, low-cost HUD systems could be part of this trend.
Kollsman, a division of Elbit Systems in Israel (which manufactures the EVS for Gulfstreams), is targeting a slice of this potential market with a unique, bargain-priced head-up display and EVS that the company is promising will make even low-time pilots perform like seasoned pros.
A HUD for Everybody Else
Kollsman first started exploring ideas for commercial HUD systems several years ago, but it wasn’t until recently that senior executives gave the green light to the Micro-Vis HUD, a unique LCD-projection system developed with assistance from sister company El-Op Electro-Optics Industries, a manufacturer of military HUDs based in Israel. The product was unveiled at the NBAA Convention in November, and the formal development program kicks off this month.
Randy Moore, Kollsman executive vice president and general manager, explained that the Micro-Vis HUD avoids using a bulky and expensive overhead image projector by attaching the image source to the combiner glass instead of using an overhead image projector. The Kollsman design actually “injects” the HUD image between two pieces of combiner glass. The result is a complete package that Kollsman said will fit in even the most cramped cockpits, something sure to pique the curiosity of VLJ makers, especially considering that the target selling price of the system is around $50,000.
“We identified this technology as being something that might be essential to the very light jet market early on because of the increase in accuracy during approach and landing and the tendency for lower-hour pilots to be better performers with HUD technology,” Moore said. “The micro HUD technology was exactly what we felt was needed to make these aircraft safer and perhaps more insurable for single-pilot operations.”
The leading causes of air accidents and incidents haven’t changed much over the years. Topping the list continue to be controlled flight into terrain, runway incursions, and approaches and landings in low visibility. Incorporating a HUD can improve safety in each of these categories, which is precisely what led Kollsman to start an R&D program about three years ago to determine whether the technology the company had in mind could indeed be installed in midsize jets or smaller business aircraft.
Moore said Kollsman has held discussions with a number of would-be VLJ manufacturers and that the early reaction to the technology has been “overwhelmingly positive.” In fact, Moore said that Eclipse Aviation founder and CEO Vern Raburn, after seeing the Micro-Vis HUD sales presentation, described it as potentially “disruptive technology.” That’s high praise from a man whose Eclipse 500 VLJ is shaping up to be about the most disruptive technology the industry has seen since Bill Lear launched the original Learjet 23 in the early 1960s.
Moore said Kollsman anticipates that the Micro-Vis HUD will make its debut in a current-production business jet or turboprop, and that its introduction in a VLJ will likely come later. This is due primarily to the anticipated certification schedule of the VLJs, none of which are yet in production.
Still, like many of the nascent VLJs, Kollsman’s Micro-Vis concept is far from being in a production-ready state. Moore explained that at this early stage the HUD image itself looks good, but that the company is still refining the projection optics used to create the HUD symbology.
The trouble is that the physical joining together of the combiner creates “artifacts” that appear as vertical streaking on the glass. Moore said engineers at El-Op (where the combiner is produced) suspect the problem is related entirely to the process used to glue the two panes of combiner glass together, a technique that is being continuously refined to create as clean an image as possible.
Moore said he has flown with the Micro-Vis HUD in Kollsman’s Cessna 340 testbed and that despite the low-intensity artifacts on the glass, after a few minutes the pilot’s eyes naturally tend to focus on the HUD symbology and ignore the background join lines. FAA pilots have also seen the HUD in action, Moore said, and their reaction has been positive.
To get an idea of how the Micro-Vis HUD works, imagine stacking a number of prisms horizontally and shining a light through the center of them, Moore explained. This light, created by an LCD image source, fans out laterally and hits a mirror, which reflects the image straight down into the HUD combiner. This technique allowed Kollsman to eliminate the overhead projector traditional HUDs use, thereby reducing size and allowing the display to be mounted either overhead or on the glareshield.
Itzhak Hevlony, Kollsman vice president for commercial aviation systems, said the Micro-Vis HUD has a field of view of 32 by 24 degrees and weighs less than 10 pounds. Certification is scheduled for the middle of next year, after which Kollsman plans to turn its attention to certification of a companion EVS. Designed to provide improved situational awareness in night VFR, Kollsman’s GAViS enhanced-vision system is an uncooled infrared sensor that Hevlony said can be mounted in a fairing on the aircraft nose. Price for the EVS would also be around $50,000, Hevlony said.
This microbolometer-type camera differs from the EVS certified in the large Gulfstreams primarily in terms of light sensitivity and sensor cooling. Whereas the cryogenically cooled Gulfstream EVS is designed to serve as an “all-weather window,” the non-cooled GAViS is intended for VFR flight only. As a result, pilots flying with GAViS will not be eligible for the operational landing credits that have been extended to properly trained Gulfstream crews flying with EVS.
Kollsman has spent the last two months flying with the HUD in its Cessna 340 every chance it could in preparation for a sales demonstration tour that will continue for the next couple of months. The company is targeting both retrofit applications and new airplane programs, with in-service King Airs and Citations being of particular interest, Moore said.
LCD Technology Takes Center Stage
As Kollsman is demonstrating, new head-up display technologies based on LCD scanning techniques promise to clear the way for smaller, lighter and, many say, more reliable hardware that will be capable of providing brighter images and new HUD capabilities.
Makers are moving away from traditional cathode ray tube (CRT) projection techniques in favor of devices based on LCD technology, which will mean less wieldy projection equipment installed in the cockpit and a crisper HUD picture. In fact, it is unlikely that civil HUDs under development in the future will use CRT projectors as manufacturers turn to LCDs.
“LCD is really where HUD technology is going,” said Chad Cundiff, displays and crew interface portfolio director for Honeywell. “There are several different reasons for that, one being image quality and others being size and power consumption.”
Honeywell is developing an EVS-based HUD for FedEx based on LCD projection technology. By moving away from traditional CRT-based HUDs, Honeywell is developing a system that should be much smaller and lighter than anything yet built for civil aviation, Cundiff said.
A key feature of this system is the integration of an EVS that uses infrared sensors to cut through darkness and weather. The Honeywell HUD will combine flight symbology with this EVS imagery and project it onto a display that will be fitted to all FedEx widebodies flying around the world.
“When you start putting EVS on a HUD you need a bright image source and good optics, and that was really the focus of our development for FedEx,” Cundiff said.
The first LCD HUD for business aviation will be the HGS-5860 head-up guidance system, under development by Rockwell Collins for the Dassault Falcon 7X. This HUD will provide a wider field of view and larger “eyebox” than past HUDs, allowing the pilot to view information conformal to the outside world in stronger crosswinds, and to more easily manage approach angle and energy on circling and other non-standard approaches, according to Collins. New sensor and database technologies, such as EVS and SVS, are planned for the system later on, through onboard software loading and development of an imaging sensor interface for the French business jet.
Rockwell Collins provides the CRT-based HUD systems in a variety of Falcons, as well as in the BBJ and Challengers. The 900EX and 2000EX with EASy avionics are undergoing EVS sensor testing using an infrared camera system developed by CMC Electronics. By replacing the vacuum-tube CRT and its power supply with an LCD design in the 7X, Rockwell Collins hopes to bring about significant increases in overall reliability, as well as sharper pictures and improved gray-shade presentation in bright ambient light, which is important for viewing images supplied by EVS sensors, said Collins.
Using technology similar to a digital media projector, an LCD HUD eliminates the high-intensity CRTs in today’s systems, which are heavy, bulky and hot-running and require high-voltage power supplies. Prices for LCD-based head-up displays from the major manufacturers are expected to remain about the same as those for current CRT-derived equipment, but this new standard for HUD image projection will create possibilities for improved EVS images, perhaps blended from a variety of infrared and millimeter-wave radar sensors. Such a HUD package would create new possibilities for operations in low visibility, thereby improving safety and possibly extending additional operational credits to operators.
Thales recently delivered the world’s first LCD HUD to Airbus for flight testing aboard an A340-600. Embraer and Collins are developing a dual LCD head-up guidance system for the Embraer 190 under a $60 million contract from launch customer JetBlue Airways, and Boeing has selected Collins to supply the dual LCD HUD in the 787.
Gulfstream and Bombardier so far are the first business jet makers to have certified HUD-based enhanced-vision systems, in Gulfstream’s case the Kollsman infrared sensor system certified in a variety of the Savannah, Ga. company’s long-range jets and in Bombardier’s case a recently certified system developed by CMC Electronics and Thales. Dassault and Boeing Business Jets are also working on HUD-based EVS concepts, while Cessna is developing EVS for head-down displays.
Advanced Vision and Sensor Fusion
The FAA recently adopted rules allowing the use of HUD-based EVS for descent below published minimums on straight-in instrument approaches. The regulations let pilots continue straight-in Category I and nonprecision approaches below decision height or minimum descent altitude to 100 feet above touchdown zone elevation, at which point they need to be able to see the runway or approach lights unaided to be legal to land.
Experts believe that lower takeoff and landing minimums resulting from enhanced-vision systems are only the beginning of the benefits new types of advanced vision technology can bring to business aviation. That’s because SVS presentations, which have evolved into slick, video-game-like systems on the primary flight displays (designed to replace the traditional blue-over-brown portrayal of the artificial horizon with a virtual world complete with terrain, obstacles and even other aircraft and airport vehicles) are also expected to be applied to HUDs.
Honeywell and Rockwell Collins are both pursuing fused EVS and SVS image technology, but only Rockwell Collins has been demonstrating concepts that redraw digitized maps of the earth’s topography to create a virtual SVS world on a HUD.
Last summer, test pilots from NASA and Gulfstream flew a GV equipped with an experimental Rockwell Collins synthetic-vision system to explore some of the latest techniques for SVS/EVS blending. Fitted with a combination of head-up displays, a new type of multi-scan weather radar, special sensors, a voice-recognition system and cockpit displays with computer-generated images of the terrain, the GV used in the trials was a veritable flying laboratory.
Pilots shot a series of instrument approaches to NASA’s Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia using only SVS for visual guidance. Gulfstream senior production test pilot Chip King served as the pilot-in-command and flew with NASA-designated pilot Mike Norman, who evaluated the SVS. With his side of the cockpit windshield intentionally blocked, Norman flew approaches to minimums using the computer-generated graphical information displayed on an LCD monitor and on the HUD without any trouble, Rockwell Collins reported.
Next on the drawing board for HUD-based EVS is millimeter-wave radar, which is a promising technology to supplement infrared EVS, if it can be produced at a low enough cost. Although the image produced by a millimeter-wave radar isn’t as crisp as infrared, it has the advantage of being able to see through clouds. Fusion of infrared sensors tuned to various wavelengths and a millimeter-wave radar acting as a third, active sensor could provide a more complete view of the world ahead of the aircraft.
BAE Systems and NASA demonstrated such a system earlier this year in NASA’s Boeing 757 testbed at the Wallops Test Center. During one of the flights conducted by a pair of uninitiated Air Force pilots, a truck was parked on the end of the runway and the view ahead was intentionally blocked by a screen placed in front of the windshield.
While the Air Force pilots complained about the “noise” that the millimeter-wave radar created on the HUD (saying it looked like snow on a tv screen), both agreed it was similar to making a landing on a dark night and that they could easily “see” the truck. When all three sensors were combined into a single EVS image, the pilots said the picture was much better.
Rockwell Collins is also continuing to work with NASA and the Air Force on HUD-based synthetic vision, which creates a view of the world manufactured from a terrain database. The idea is to create a wire-mesh-type grid that draws hills and mountains but does not obstruct vision ahead. Making sure that the grid conforms precisely with what exists in the real world is the biggest challenge for developers.
“The accuracy of the sensors is a big issue, certainly in heading,” said Peter Howells, systems engineering manager for Rockwell Collins. “Accuracy in position will come with the use of GPS, but a bigger concern is precise alignment using inertial reference systems, which allow us to accurately represent the outside world.”
Other techniques for creating a synthetic view on the HUD are currently being explored, Howells added, one being the use of computer processing to correlate the real view from the EVS to the vision being shown on the SVS, allowing the computer to correct the synthetic image as needed.
Honeywell’s approach has been to focus on bringing EVS to the HUD and SVS to head-down primary flight displays. The avionics maker has tested an SVS for the PFD, but at this point it has no plans to apply the technology to a HUD.
“We see a great benefit in having EVS overlaid on a head-up display and having SVS on a head-down display,” said Honeywell’s Cundiff. “There are some things you’ve got to go solve if you try putting synthetic vision on a HUD. For example, how do you make the SVS image really match what a pilot sees out the window? If you’re trying to overlay terrain on top of terrain that really exists, they had better match perfectly. On a head-down display it doesn’t necessarily have to be conformal to anything, but on a HUD it has to match exactly to the terrain that’s out there.”
Surface Guidance Systems
In the future, fully integrated surface guidance systems will be needed to safely and efficiently guide airplanes on large airports, especially in poor weather and at night.
Rockwell Collins has been honing its SVS concept for the past several years, leveraging the technology from its HUD development group in Portland, Ore., to design a system capable of providing pilots with a variety of on-airport cues.
Using an onboard high-accuracy airport surface map database coupled with one-meter position accuracy from an airport differential GPS or LAAS station, HUD systems developed by Collins in the future will display a graphical overlay of the runway or taxiway ahead, precisely aligned with the proper perspective of the flight deck.
Runway and taxiway edge lights would be overlaid with their graphic equivalents, with their centerlines clearly displayed.
Upcoming turns, including high-speed turnoffs, would be alerted well in advance, with distances to go and current taxi speed versus maximum speed for the turn shown prominently, and the turns themselves accurately depicted as the aircraft proceeds around them. Tracking around a turn will be aided by a “future trend line,” familiar to pilots currently flying electronic HSIs.
Finally, should the crew be uncertain about the aircraft’s position, they could switch the HGS display to show a plan view of the airport’s runways and taxiways.
“One of the challenges is whether you can create a system that communicates with the flight management computer to create a taxi path on the HUD that would show you how to get from where you are on the airport to where you need to go,” said Howells, adding that Rockwell Collins is working on that, too.
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IMO Jolyn
By: Gunner_0ne Grob has selected Kollsman’s enhanced-vision system for its new SPn Utility jet. Kollsman’s General Aviation Vision System (Gavis) will be integrated with a more advanced version of Honeywell’s Apex avionics suite than had originally been intended for the aircraft. Separately, Swiss cabin interiors specialist Burnet is bidding to provide the production interior for the SPn. The company’s craftwork was on display in the cabin of a demonstrator model that the German airframer had on display at EBACE.
IMO Ann
ironyman everything tells a story.. This board is
looking good for the flippers...
Please tells us some good things about
Advance Technologies, Inc I feel that this stock can
go to a $1.00 a share.. What do you think??
IMO Jolyn
All lets start playing hit the jump link..
Time to wake up alexa about this site..
hit this jump link a few times a day..
http://redirect.alexa.com/redirect?niteagle.com
Life is good Tra la la
Gary E. Ball will just love it...
Tra la la [DD on another board..]
IMO Jolyn
loss_slayer "#4 looks real good."
"but note that you didn't list our AVTX"
Now your starting to think ...
Now is time to buy all the "AVTX" you can..
DON'T RUN WITH THE PACK
RUN AHEAD OF THE PACK
You made fun of cangalli stocks now look at this one again
http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?chart=MRKL,uu[h,a]waclyyay[pb40!f][vc60][iue6,12,9!lj[$spx]]
an other payday and "MRKL" is junk stock..
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?c=mrkl,uu[w,a]daclyiay[dc][pd20,2!b20!f][vc60][iut!lb5!la12,26,9]
"MRKL" is a bad stock it will show up on that list
in a week or two..
Learn this site..
http://www.ddmachine.com/default.asp
IMO
Jolyn
You must learn the boards..
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11532992
mean_street_dude What do you think that this stock can run up to..
IMO Jolyn
loss_slayer this is part of your quest.
You'll increase your contacts and
knowledge tenfold thus profit.
You must find the CBS "AVTX" board..
You should know that
I posts on stockselector boards..
I will be posting on the the
Stockselector "AVTX" board before monday..
As for bunny she posts on the CBS "AVTX"
and Freerealtime boards..
Ann posts on the CS boards and CBS boards
plus a few others..
"were not talking prostitution I hope.lol"
You must make some profit first..
Think sex only when your stock is going up..
Now here is a list of stock..
If one of you stocks is on the top 3
Odds are you are looking a run..Thus PROFIT!!!
1. NMCX (29)
2. XKEM (17)
3. IPRE (12)
4. ALAN (11)
5. FGFC (11)
6. SMMW (11)
7. PAIV (10)
8. BKMP (8)
9. MPET (8)
10. ANLT (7)
11. GWGO (7)
12. WTVN (7)
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14. DDSI (6)
15. GSPI (6)
16. MAHI (6)
17. MOBL (6)
18. PTSC (6)
19. QOIL (6)
20. JMCP (5)
21. NDOL (5)
22. NLST (5)
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24. CMKI (4)
25. DKGR (4)
26. GTE (4)
27. INSQ (4)
28. LFWK (4)
29. PAIM (4)
30. TNOG (4)
31. USXP (4)
32. AOOR (3)
33. BUGS (3)
34. ARET (3)
35. AMSN (3)
36. AMHD (3)
37. ACMG (3)
38. FUEL (3)
39. GEOI (3)
40. GZFX (3)
41. IDCN (3)
42. IVFH (3)
43. POZN (3)
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IMO Jolyn
ironyman "Interesting trading" We call that MM pull down..
Look at any 24 chart ... This is MM's at play...
The MM's are in deep DoDo if more buyers turn up..
IMO Jolyn
This stock has got to go up..
"Great Press!
http://www.ainonline.com/Features/AIN_cockpit.html
Oh the Irony!"
IMO Jolyn
loss_slayer "cangalli girl might have missed
out on gigm perhaps not hec."
Now I know cangalli well and
she told me to tell you
to buy all "AVTX" you can..
Time is runnibg out.
Also Ann and Bunny is posting on
the CBS "AVTX" Board..
You will like Ann and Bunny
they can help you make money
in OTC stock..
IMO Jolyn
ironyman "Just a feeling." We are now back
to the Pivot point of 0.025 one way or the
other something will give..
Hope for UP
IMO Jolyn
Stocks fall on rates, inflation concerns
Declining shares beat advancers by about 3 to 1
on both the Nasdaq and the NYSE.
Nice "AVTX" up.. This is vary good
IMO Jolyn
rrufff "What a waste of time on SI. I don't think I've seen a board filled with as much poop since the time my sick dog had diarrhea after eating a bunch of Señor worms. LOL."
Yes your right I stay away from that board..
IHub is best...
IMO Jolyn
ironyman "Bollingers are starting to invert.."
and a few more things are starting to look right..
The big problem is no sellers..
Those of us that were able to buy were lucky
I feel that the MM's gifted us the shares..
In order to get a sell-off ..
Too bad the MM's lost again.
"Do you think they are setting this up for news from Elbit/Kollsman at the Paris Air Show (6-15-06 about)...."
No, there are no shares to be had.
The MM's are pulling shares out of thin air..
I don't believed anything the MM's say
Hold or Buy is my call...
IMO Jolyn
rrufff This board may help
Niteagle Sytems, Inc. (NGLE)
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=5746
None of us have a lot of info on "NGLE"
IMO Thank you Jolyn
rrufff "What is the relationship between NGLE and AVTX."
"NGLE" is an spin-off of "AVTX"
Yes "NGLE" will make it big some time
but every unit that "NGLE" sells "AVTX"
will get a fee.. My money is on "AVTX"
Posted by: Cytotekk AVTX easy DD:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11427269
Are you here because of the charting on this stock..?
My call is we are at bottom..
IMO Thank You Jolyn
loss_slayer Learn to never trust the MM's
Been to all the "AVTX" and "NGLE" boards.
No one a stated that they have sold any shares..
MM's can and do make shares out of thin air..
As a rule its never found out..
Unless no one is selling...
I have stated for some time that "AVTX"
has been shorted by the MM's 10% to 15%
So far the MM's are winning the battle
to get their shares "AVTX" back..
The MM's will win as long as there is
No pressure to buy.
RB "AVTX" board is where most "AVTX" investor's
are they will not sell..
The CEO of "AVTX" and his frinds will
will end up a millionaire..
If they can buy enough stock thus the shake out..
IMO Thank you Jolyn
loss_slayer "Whats the rush anyway?"
LOL Lets do some math
When Bell is done with his shake out..
This is a safe call
"AVTX" can go to
0.0753?
0.1506?
0.2761?
Some of us think that "AVTX" can go over a $1.00 share..
20,000 shares X PPS 0.0251 = $502.00
SELL PRICE PROFIT
200% 0.0753 $1004.00
500% 0.1506 $2510.00
1000% 0.2761 $5020.00
Yup if you only came in when I bougth more "AVTX"
@0.0251
Do your charts this stock is on its way up..
IMO Jolyn
loss_slayer "023 I think it can go lower."
I bought more yesterday @ $0.0251
dropped my avg cost to 0.394..
Not counting my free shares..
If your right I will buy more..
I hope you buy soon..
Good Luck IMO Jolyn