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He is about to email me back he is getting info from the company. He may have been mistaken. Lol I apologize. We shall see when he emails me back. I only have one more post after this one so I will post the email when it comes
New paul knopick email
Actually he may have been wrong he just sent me this:
I may been quick on the trigger. Company is sending me more information. As soon as I have it, you will.
Paul
From: desmond pottle [mailto:desmondpottle@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 1:04 PM
To: Paul Knopick
Subject: RE: husqvarna
Is it possible for you to release an email to the shareholders that there is no connection to husqvarna. There is mass confusion on this every one believes that you are wrong or misinformed. I've even showed them the email where you said there is no connection. They belive you are wrong .. this is the belief of 100+ people by the way so I think it be a good idea to set the record straight before it gets out of hand thanks.
On May 15, 2014 12:04 PM, "Paul Knopick" <pknopick@eandecommunications.com>
Well I messaged apt again and asked them to clear this up with an email to shareholders don't know if they will. But if APT tells me this is not their technology then I have no reason to believe other wise.
I'm only going off what came from APT . I'm not guessing . apt told me it's not their technology.
So you saying the email I received from Apt is lying when they say it's different technology? Please be my guest and email them yourself he answered back the same day.. this not apts technology.
Geez I posted the email from investor relations Paul Knopick stating that its not the same technology and yall still can't believe it. Don't you think he would check with Apt before he answers a with a statement on partnerships with the company come on now guys.
If you look closely husqvarna smartcarb has a (tm)
Apts smartcarb has a (r) they are different.
You can use the symbols TM for trademark or SM for service mark to indicate that you are claims rights to the marks without having federal registration. However, use of the TM and SM symbols may be governed by different local, state, or foreign laws. The federal registration symbol ® can only be used after the mark is actually registered in the USPTO. Even though an application is pending, the registration symbol ®may not be used before the mark has actually become registered.
It's trademarked by husqvarna
husqvarna DOES NOT USA APT SMARTCARB.. Email paul knopick yourself he will tell you that is not APT'S technology
I spoke with paul knopick the investor relation for APT . It's not the same it just has the same name. I put the email in the post ask him you self why would he lie ?
Unfortunately husqvarna is not using APT's smartcarb . There is no connection between the two companies. I confirmed this with paul in the email below. So still no bmw connection either. . That sucks it was promising
The technologies are different.
Paul
From:........
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:21 AM
To: pknopick@eandecommunications.com
Subject: husqvarna
Hello Paul, as shareholders we are wondering can we get some type of conformation that husqvarna is actually using APT'S smartcarb on their equipment, or is this a totally different technology. Is this an on going partnership? Anything you can say to shed a little light on this would be much appreciated. We see there website say they use smartcarb technology just want to make sure if this is APT or not. Thanks
On May 9, 2014 3:20 PM, "E & E Communications <pknopick@eandecommunications.com>" <admin@investorpass.com> wrote:
Exactly this is the type of outlook the entire board should have. That's the point I want to get across before the fins come out because people will see debt and run. We need to create an environment that is more future looking. You can see it on the board throughout the day everyone is worried about intraday movements of .0001 . So I think everyone is going to freak once fins come out. But not if we can change the culture in here which maybe impossible
Nice prospective this is what I'm hoping to see as well. Imo today's pr was like a pleasant way of telling the shareholders " hey guys our financials are going to look like shit, BUT here's what we are doing in the future (ramp up production, new products)" hopefully we see those other aspects in the company that can out weight what ever debt maybe . But I think some people are overly optimistic on the debt outlook and as soon as the see anything in the millions they will panic. so I think being realistic is important for the board right.. great perspective tho
Here's a question for all.. how much debt are you guys comfortable seeing on the financials?? 1 mil, 2 mil , 5 mil .. what happens if the debt is 20 mil? is that going to be to much to move out of these double 0s ? Because today's pr stated that it's taken over 20mil to get apt up and running. I think we should start talking realistic about the immediate future so it prevents a crash once the numbers come out. instead we can have a surge if we keep reasonable expectations. So how much debt are you guys comfortable with seeing ??? For me I can deal with up to 10 mil in debt
Idk Imo this has been in the works for quite sometime to the point that most investors no that the merger is legit. There's more then enough news stating this .. it does have some negative effect being under froz ticker but only nominal. If you look back at spli when it recently switched it's ticker a few months after the their reverse merger. I can't Remember exactly but the had only around a 25% gain the day of the ticker change and the next day they were down around 10%. And since then it's been trading sideways basically even on good news. I think for apt we will get pretty good movement on the ticker change , better then spli because apt has higher potential but the ticker change has minimal effect on this stock right now and in the future.. the thing hanging over this stock is the uncertainty of the amount of debt and the prospects of future dilution.
Smart money loads Today? We've been stuck at these levels for almost 2 weeks.
Yes because if you read the previous pr apt stated some of their first investors gave up everything to help apt.. so i would think some of those people possibly NEED some of their investment back pretty damn soon.
So how do you suspect they will be able to fulfill large order demand when it take a year (at current pace) to produce less then 300 pre order carbs ?? I think you are a year or two off with your .50 and 1.00 prediction . I wish it was right I'd be a millionaire
First time I've heard of it.
Yea true a contract would change all of that but I dont see it happening this year because the smartcarb is still deep in the developmental stages and they are still working to make it cost efficient. Right now it just cost way to much to build a smartcarb which keeps potential contracts with companies at bay. I see apt accomplishing this later in the year at the pace they are moving now. Then I definitely see them getting a contract but not untill next year. Because the fact is apt has competition they aren't the only carb that does similar things check out the Lectron . Same technology but cheaper and has a loyal base for 40 yrs. .. I no its a prediction but it's Imo .
Guys just trying to keep expectations real I dont see us moving back over a penny this year. Next year could be huge for apt , but there is to much hanging over our head in 2014 for there to be enough shareholder confidence. IronRidge, 2.7 bil shares become unrestricted in november, back taxes, possibly enormous debt. All these can be expected with a start up company, BUT DONT EXPECT HUGES RETURNS RIGHT AWAY. We will probably remain sub penny untill next year when we get the number on the smartcarb sales from this year. They even said it themselves they need higher margin products because most likely their current products arent getting them where they need to be in terms of cash flow and this wont be fixed untill 2016.. you have to be in this for the long run.. if not get out now because we arent going anywhere soon ...im here till 2016
I think its because the PR is basically saying " hey shareholders our financials are going to look horrible buuuuutttt we have great things on the way in the future".. most people where here just to make the quick flip on the financials . Now that the financials are in question those people are leaving. Plain and simple. The only good news in the pr was the plans to expand product and a plan to clean up cashflow. There is definitely a dark undertone in this pr they where reluctant to reveal. They used quite a bit of vagueness. This pr is good for longs bad for day trading
Same here. Im stuck. I came to terms with losing every dime I put into this stock so im in it for the long haul as well. From the sound of the pr doesnt look like they will be on track untill 2016. But you cant loose if you come to term with the possibility of loosing everything u put in. Now all I have to do is wait for the stock to prove me wrong.. not much of a choice
Any guesses as to how much debt would accumulate $700000-$900000 in interest payments. A 10% rate would mean 7-9 mil in debt . They said it took over 20 mil to get started.. we could be looking at tens of millions in debt on the fins. I think we should all brace ourselves for that.
Ive also come across some people that had conversation with apt and they have discussed development for 4 strokes carbs as well. That opens up a whole new market. These relationships with these pre order buyers are very important because they are also helping with the design fixes for later models and through this relationship the are feeling the demand for different carbs as well. They just need to get this price of the carb down. Ive been reading on forums and the problem is there is actually another really good brand carb that alot of people use. The SmartCarb has slight improvements over this other carb but its significantly more expensive. They understand that this is because of supply and demand but some are reluctant to give up more money for slight improvements just yet. Others realize that slight improvements could be the difference in a win or a last place spot. WE NEED MASS PRODUCTION CAPABILITIES so we can get those reluctant buyers
Oh ok cool .. yea I just found it. It seems to not show up on the motovox mobile site u have to go to the full site to see it
Is there a link that shows apts generators or plans to build one. I've looked I couldn't find it anywhere. Only thing I've seen anywhere is in the ibox and for some reason it looks like the logos were photo shopped on. If anyone knows of the link thanks. Its also not on their websites that I know of.
So if GASGAS continues to work with apt there could be a potential multi million dollar deal here now that they have cash to invest in new technology
No its on their facebook page
Matt, we have continued to work with GasGas on all levels and are a major sponsor of their factory enduro race team and limited trials. GG has recently been bailed out by the Spanish government in order to sell a major portion to an Israeli controlling interest, consisting of several brothers. This has infused GG with major capital (my understanding around 70 mil). And has forced them to completely restructure nearly top to bottom. One of the first things they did was buy Husqvarna engine technology from KTM and it's our hope the SmartCarb will be the second thing they do. No doubt it will be the smartest thing they could do. If we are not able to move forward with GG then we just continue with what we are already doing; certifying a TM 530 powered Zaeta for 50 state onroad in the US, supply Zaeta's European market and continue testing with Christini. This year should prove out a lot for the SC.
I recently read a conversation from APT and a customer. They said that GASGAS recently went through a major reconstruction through a bailout. They said they are not sure IF GASGAS will continue to work with APT after reconstruction or not. But that they have other possibilities if it doesnt workout . This was earlier this year.
I never said that it wasnt positive, just not bmw type of positive. Im hoping this is some sort of manufacturing company because thats the main need right now for apt to expand. They need the capability to mass produce. The will bring down the price of the expensive smartcarb. This alone will skyrocket the consumer interest. The two things hindering the smartcarb right now amongst consumers is the incredibly long wait time to receive the product and the cost compared to other high end carbs. Mass production solves both issues so thats what im hoping for. I think there is great value here dont get me wrong
Hopefully there is a manufacturing connection somewhere here as well.. because as it stand now apt is in no condition to expand overseas. They have serious production issues. Theyve had to delay order up to 6 times in some cases. A large number of people have been waiting impatiently for a year on their smartcarbs with vague answers of to when they will receive their product. Unless they can jack up production by 1000 fold I dont see expansion on that scale anytime soon. It takes apt over a year to complete 100 smartcarb orders how long would it take to make 1000? 10 yrs? Also with out increased production capabilities the smartcarb is FAR to expensive for developing countries. Hopefully this China connection involves some kind of manufacturing in it.
Actually I didnt mean that it wont have a huge increase, just that you cant compare apt with companies that only have an o/s of 24 million.
I dont think u can compare apt to most of these, because most of these have VERY SMALL floats, which makes if more likely to have huge increase. Also how many have ironridge over their head? even though diluted has stopped last few days we are still very much in the thick of the calculation period so anything can still happen. We are still at Ironridges hands. It would be nice to have huge increases.. id like to see companys that reverse mergered with at least 4 billion o/s , 1 billion float , and in the mist of toxic finacining that had huge increases. That would be a better comparison.
This increases the o/s by 14 billion . Why are you saying there will be a 1.5 billion decreases in the o/s how did you come up with that number ???
Honestly this looks more like the o/s just expanded by 13 billion nothing else makes sense in a year all of our investments we be worth used toilet paper. Hopefully im wrong... where else will 13 billion shares come from
This doesnt decrease anything. It either increase the o/s substantilly or stays the same because they said this was already apart of the share exchange agreement
But how do we know they are using the shares from the o/s to convert and not judt issuing brand new shares
Oh ok I mustve read somebodies post wrong anybody figure out by how much.
Im just trying to understand this. How does issuing prefered stock reduce the a/s ? By converting common stock ? Wouldnt they still count the those preferred stocks as common in the a/s or no?