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Well, again, I think there's stuff going on behind-the-scenes that we might not be allowed to hear about. And the example I gave with a company possibly negotiating with them, part of the stipulations in the agreement might be that no new news gets made public until the clinical results officially come out.
I'm just saying there's tons of stuff that could be happening....along with some strategy on our part, that they might not want to release for lots of different reasons. Maybe they're sure that the debt will get covered by the funding that's coming. Maybe they've worked that out already and have some sort of mutual agreement? Again, who knows? Not everything can be cut and dry and set out on the table for everybody to see.
This is a very strategic market right now and there are tons of other companies trying to do similar things that we are trying to do and lots of big fish wanting to come in and scoop up assets without drawing attention to it.
I can definitely understand a little bit of frustration or wonder on what's going on because it has been quiet.
But the fact that they are continuously moving forward with new clinicals, makes me think that everything is going as planned for the most part and that we are just not able to be privy to that information for a reason. But it might make sense to us later when we find out.
I've been in stocks before where everybody grew restless from the lack of information coming out of corporate, only to find out months later what those reasons for being tight lipped were and it made total sense on why they couldn't say anything.
If you contact investor relations, they just respond with the exact same answer. Like they just can't say a word. And they probably can't.
I guess my point is that there might be something happening WAY bigger than we have any idea about, and due to privacy contingencies in contracts or gag orders for lack of the true name of it, they might have to be quiet. They obviously can't tell us anything about that fact.
I was just in a stock where this happened, so maybe I'm more aware of or sensitive to this situation going on and the possibilities.
Not sure. Maybe we've failed every single pre-clinical and Collier is a psycho and holding a gun to Mann's head everyday saying "you better not stop buying motherf*cker!"
That is possible as well. ;)
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Big companies don't tend to post info in articles on who they're considering buying out. Counterproductive. Creates eyes on their prize.
Look at all the big Pharma companies and the answer is them.
I disagree that there's no credibility with new clinicals. Sometimes you have to connect the dots on your own. There could easily be reasons on why they are being a little guarded with info.
They could have negotiated a tentative deal with a big Pharma company based on clinical heart results, with the stipulation that updates on the results are kept quiet in order to keep other companies off their heels to buyout. Never know.
But anyway, you don't just throw good money after bad with 8 currently running preclinicals. If they weren't getting good results and feedback from the early clinicals, there'd be a problem with the device that needs to hit the science lab again. You don't just keep running the same thing out there hoping it works on something else and paying hefty money to test it and find out.
So I DO think there's credibility in the fact that they are paying to continue the huge pipeline of testing different treatments at once.
And I think we are sticking a bunch of new ones into the pipeline, which means some are going to be coming out very very soon. Imo.
Because if you buy just before revenue, you'll be paying dollars and not cents.
Once we are out of preclinicals for heart, ideally before end of month, anticipation of getting fast tracked through a 3 month FDA trial kicks in. After 3 months and FDA approval all bets are off on where the pps will go or who will buy us out. I
anticipate .25+ when heart preclinical news and FDA application info comes out. After FDA approval it'll be $1+.
So you have to weigh the risk of waiting to buy vs. the reward of having .05-.07 shares right now.
Yeah, I don't really care. I'm here until a buyout. It'd be nice though.
Currently (I believe) heart, liver, diabetes, tissue, bone, NASH, Critical limb Ischemia, Kidney.
True. I think the delay in heart has everything to do with the new non provisional patent they applied for and got, in March.
It was a major upgrade to the device by Dr. Rudd.
I have a feeling that they had to restart the trial in some capacity using the new technology. But according to who I've talked to, it was a significant upgrade in technology.
Just my opinion.
Not much else to say in it really.
Moving into another new preclinical trial.
But, that makes 3 new trials in less than a month!
Sounds to me like results must be coming back great and are either just completed or very close to completion on heart.
I wouldn't be shocked at all to have back to back weeks with a PR. Next week results?
I personally think getting preclinicals done on as many as possible and having 1-2 completed FDA trials will show a potential buyer that ALL of the preclinicals will be successful in FDA and create a much higher valuation for buyout candidate.
I think they can get heart done and liver done through FDA trials as well as get diabetes to market with an FDA temporary market exemption by late 2017 (optimistic) or early 2018 (realistic) and if they can have 5-10 others in preclinicals or close to completing preclinicals, our company valuation will be $5B+ for an early/mid 2018 buyout at $20+ per share. Imo.
Well you answered your first statement with the answer in the last thing you said.
They might have had a press release about multiple treatments back in December, but I promise you that if the heart or liver trials weren't going good....they aren't going to continue putting it through more, expensive trials when essentially it's supposed to work the same way in these new trials. Wouldn't make sense. So linking them to potential successes in theory can be speculation due to the fact that they haven't announced the success yet. But in reality, you just don't move forward into NASH, Critical limb Ischemia, kidney etc.... if you are not being very successful in heart, liver, bone, tissue and diabetes. Just my opinion though.
Lol....yep they love Thursday's lately.
Well they are definitely piling up the preclinical trials to cover everything. We are going to have a bunch of functional treatments hit the market all at once. They clearly are confident in both cytotronics and immunotronics and keep on putting them to work in trials. Clearly they've had great results coming back from the current trials to keep advancing them both into more trials.
Not to mention, that once the results come back positive, it's pretty much guaranteed to fly through FDA trials, probably with some type of expedited trial. Which pretty much solidifies the future of the company because we can be 99.9% sure that every other clinical trial will pass at that point.
Heart results also guarantee us funding and our buyout price shoots up into the $B's with our patents.....then we just wait for the other patents positive results to come out.
Once just 1 positive clinical result comes in, we are golden.
Heart preclinical trial results got delayed from 1Q to 2Q. Only June remains in 2Q, so huge catalyst any day this month. Will take us way over .10, should take us over .25
It was sub penny briefly in February is what he's saying.
You and me both...lol.
That's my personal guess on when we should hear news by. I think we'll get clinical results and funding news by June 16.
Going to be an influx of out of state visitors to TX looking for treatment.
That's pretty big news. Especially given that the square wave device used in JoeCanada's sticky is covered under our patents AND all the testing facilities on it were in Texas.
Helps that Dr. Rudd, who still has ties to everything and wrote all of our patents, lives in Texas, went to Texas A&M and I'm sure has tons of connections in Texas.
Always good to have a few feet in the door already.
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We had multiple green days in a row to end the week last week. Ol Midas couldn't be found.
You're a joke. None of those quotes are mine. If you're going to try to kill me on here, at least kill me with my own words.
Just like a stock chart, I can track by the hour of how much you post in relation to what the share price is. When it goes down your posting goes up and vice versa....predictable.
Welcome back Midas! It's such a weird coincidence that your Internet service goes out on every single green day we have. So strange that your mouth only works on red days.
Oh I totally agree! I meant there are a few four letter words he would probably like to say to me. I rode him pretty hard a few weeks ago and I know his hands were tied on what he can say.
Ok just making sure. I'm in Virginia just south of Washington DC so it's 3 hours difference for me, and that's hard to get used to sometimes.
Yeah, he's not a big fan of mine. I tell it like it is to him and he's very limited on what he can say. I'm sure he'd like to say a lot more to me than he can....lol.
Possible. Remember they are in Cali so it's only 9:30am there right now. ;)
It was updated in here yesterday if you search back. Someone posted it after calling the TA.
I've always heard back same day if I email in the morning also.
I've got an email into them as well that's gone unresponded to.
They have 4 business days to submit an 8-K to the SEC upon clinical results finishing. Could definitely happen any day. We know they love Thursday PR's lately. ;)
That's really ALL it is. Anytime random people show up and start talking....it's because they want in at a cheaper price.
Nobody in the world spends a single second of their day posting on the stock forum of a stock they don't care about. The End. Nobody. They want in and want you to sell cheap to them. They'll claim they don't, but how many times have we seen it? Neeexxt!
Yep, just saw it, thanks.
I'm getting close to figuring out where it is or was being conducted. Hopefully can figure it out by the end of the holiday weekend.
I must have missed them saying that. Which press release was that in, do you remember?
I'd say that there's a decent chance that this exact article isn't written specifically about ENDV's preclinical results and device.
However, I am 100% positive that the device used to conduct these tests is covered by ENDV's patents and shows exactly how preclinicals are going or how conclusive our results will be when released.
As a matter of fact, our device is actually a little bit more advanced now than this one, thanks to the new non provisional patent created in late March which actually further advanced the technology of our existing device.
You don't have to use a CRO to do preclinical trials.
ENDV's preclinical heart study, from the research that I've done, actually is being done at Texas Heart Institute in Houston, TX.
All IMO.
ASAIO Journal is a bi-monthly periodical. The last issue published was the May/June issue.
I like your train of thought, but I highly doubt that ENDV is going to base the release of news to its shareholders, based on a medical publication. I'm sure they will be releasing news far in advance of a magazine article coming out discussing the breakthrough of our technology in preclinicals. Just my opinion.
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One week at a time. This one was a great week especially heading into a 3 day weekend!
You too, man. I've got a good feeling about these next 2 weeks!
Won't be long before you can have it! We are inching closer to shocking the medical world every day. So many people have no idea this technology exists. It's going to become very HUGE very FAST!
I read tons of stem cell and tissue articles about how they are growing stem cells in labs in only 2-3 months time and they think they are the next best thing....it's insane. We can do it in a week non invasively and our cells are "donor neutral"! That's earth shattering!!! Anybody can use our cells. No bone marrow matching needed anymore! We are going to save a very large number of lives!
The world is calling for us......opportunities are endless. We will capitalize with a quickness. I've been messaging all of these places about our technology.
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