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Exactly! What are they supposed to say?
I don't know which part of his email you're calling him a liar on, but I did receive the same response about the strategic healthcare investor also. As far as the uplifting, I never asked about that.
Did a 1 for 10 share split to decrease shares on Dec 16, 2004.
Deregistered from NYSE on Nov 30, 2007.
Dec 10, 2007 they went dark.
Orion had Caveat Emptor status added to its symbol on the most recent trading day, Friday June 9, 2017. The same day it went up 700+%.
Interesting conflict.
I'm pretty sure it's 12M
The email response I got about the investor, was prior to the 10-K. It's also the the last email response I got from them that didn't say exactly what you posted.
For whatever reason, they stopped answering questions about a month ago and only saying the "8-K/public info" prepared response. Good luck getting a worthwhile answer. I've written them probably 4-5 times since then and half the time I get nothing and the other half I get the robot reply.
100% agree with that statement.
I'm positive there are reasons why they have to do things this way. It doesn't matter though, we will get to the finish line no matter which direction we had to take at the beginning.
But irregardless of any of that, heart results coming and all of this will start falling into place.
We've got a whole line of dominoes standing up and the heart trials are the first domino that gets pushed over very soon. Everything else will happen based off of this heart info.
Although I never heard anything about uplisting from them. I also never asked.
I received he same info from Steven Barnes as Dino did about the investor not signing yet. Basically saying that they were waiting for results (without saying those words).
I agree with everything you said, except the buyout, in my opinion, will not happen until management builds up the clinical and FDA results to the point we are in dollars.
It might take an extra 1-2 years of time instead of a buyout late 2017/early 2018. But I think they'll want to pull more trials through before selling to really get a good buyout price.
As I understand it, the investor deal is not finalized (as you see it too), but will most likely be signed and confirmed upon clinical results.
I believe Endonovo has signed the agreement and it's merely a matter of the investor getting clinical results and signing also.
At least that's how I understand it with my conversation with investor relations at endonovo.
Nice breakdown, Dino.
That's pretty interesting data. I'd love to know what it's from or who it's from. Pretty cool seeing the sine waves towards the end. I might send this off to someone and see what they can decipher from it on whether it's us at all or what it's from.
Supposedly they've been happening still. Not sure why they haven't been getting reported publicly in a form 4 yet though. I'm just keeping an eye on it now since there was no buying reported for this entire week yet, which is the first time that's happened since he started buying and it wasn't even a holiday week or anything. Just an anomaly and I'm watching it.
No clue who. But you're probably right....it's likely Mann. But until we get form 4's, I'm keeping an open mind on other possibilities.
So.....I know there's no way to prove or disprove the Michael Mann share purchasing theory......BUT......
SEC rules state that any shares bought by insiders must be filed with SEC within 2 business days.
Insiders may not buy or sell shares if they know of a material event.
So he bought on Friday June 2 and we got the SEC notification on the 2nd business day from then, Tuesday June 6th.
If he had bought on Monday, the SEC would have to be notified no later than Wednesday. Bought Tuesday, SEC gets notified no later than Thursday.
I just think it's a little bit unusual that we didn't get a single form 4 at all this week.
Companies have 4 full business days to submit an 8-k after a material event. Which means if news came Monday, they would've had to file by today at 5:30pmEST.
If news came Tuesday, they wouldn't have to file until Monday at 5:30pmEST.
All this is moot if the form 4's are just lagging or he stopped buying in anticipation of news this week.
But I looked all the way back to March and this will be the longest span by far (come Monday) that we've gone without a form 4 from him.
So he either stopped buying because he's out of cash, the form 4 publications are running behind some or we have a material event on our hands.
All imo.
I did t see how much it was for, just reading the post that it was 3 seconds before bell.
I'm too chickensh*t to take profits even though there are 2 big plays imo about to have big reversals soon.
Our trial results are way too close for me to F with this one at all.
I just watch 2 others get painted down too. Doesn't mean anything. Except we have an idiot trader as a shareholder somewhere.
Who knows.....
I just looked back to March 23 and besides holiday weekends it never went more than 3 days without a new form 4.
Ok...well someone might be slow to report it then. Guess we'll see.
Hmmmm....lol....he might be done.
Per SEC,
Federal and state securities laws prohibit the purchase or sale of a company’s securities by persons who are aware of material information about that company that is not generally known or available to the public.
Per SEC rules,
An insider must report "change of ownership" (buying shares) within 2 business days to the SEC.
What's the last day we have that he's bought?
https://www.scoopnest.com/user/Paul_Sonnier/753938180445831168
Scroll down on that page just a hair and you'll see a white page it says in the noble on it and has a picture to the right. That's it.
Well you know why! Because I have funds clearing up on Monday instead of today.
I realized that as soon as I sent it. Can't edit posts on my iPhone.
"On OUR feet"? Lol....your feet maybe....hopefully.
Take your crackpipe and move along.
That would be a $200M purchase price. Our patents all by themselves have been valued at more than double that right now.
It's called a prediction.
Future forecast.
A Guess.
Relax.
Just to piggyback on your reply, I'd be shocked if we are bought out for less than $4 per share. To me, that's almost bare bones minimum as far as value goes.
My personal expectation if they sell within a year would be anywhere in the $6-$20 range, all depending on what results have been announced at the time of the deal.
Very very unlikely. When it comes down it might if you're lucky hit .049. Personally with the huge catalysts coming closer and closer, I don't think we will get much lower than it is right now. Starting next week, I think it'll start climbing up in anticipation of the successful heart trial results coming out.
I think he was talking about a different stick at the end of his post. Not ENDV.
I think there are possibly 8. Not 100% positive but I think I'm right.
Heart, liver, bone, tissue, diabetes, NASH, critical limb ischemia, GvHD.
We've had 2 in less than a month. Might not be updating what most want to hear but starting new clinicals is a pretty big deal.
The one in March, while it did slow down the heart results. It also created a much more technologically advanced device that should help us not only sail through clinicals easier, but get FDA fast tracked status a little easier too!
How management chooses to notify shareholders of information is up to them.
What stocks we individually invest in is up to us. We have the right and ability to buy or sell what and when we want.
I think we all know the massive potential this company has once we complete just one clinical testing. Our chances of getting through FDA trials is great imo once we are successful in clinicals.
Then once we get through one FDA trial successfully, it's only a matter of time....and nothing else.
All imo.
Why would I need to arrange the purchase if you could just buy one from the company??
Do you know where to get one?? No!! Neither does he. That's why I would have to help him.
Again, you're both proving my point that SOME people in here MIGHT just actually know more than you two
ish-talkers.
If you want to try to buy one on your own...go for it. Good luck.
Of course the company isn't selling them. Holy hell.
Were you home schooled?
There were 10,000 devices sold before the patents were assigned to Endonovo. But I'm sure you two knew that.
Nope. If you read the posts leading up to the one you responded to before running your mouth, you'd see that I specified that it's the device used BEFORE any changes were made to it, from years ago.
But thanks for showing up, participating and telling me what I'm doing, what I know and what's illegal.
Nice FDA rule changes that benefit us a little bit.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2017-06-07/html/2017-11816.htm
For what they do, I thought it would cost much more. But it's still a good chunk of money.