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Give me a few days. I might be able to report something that'll make more sense and possibly make none of that really matter anymore.
I might have something very insightful that I can share on Friday, but more likely it'll be Monday. I'm not sure if I'll be allowed to share all of it, but I've got a "meeting" set up for some new info in the next few days.
I don't remember either. I glance through posts and remember things I've seen in here that I want to make a comment about. But I usually do some research, check with a few people in the know, and don't get back to posting about it for days or even the following week or two. Just something that was brought up a week or two ago.
There was some Endonovo patent talk last week or so. Here's some info I've gathered pertaining to the company, as well as in general.....
Patents last for 20 years after filing so there's no need to slow down. It used to be 17
years from issue..... so you can see the change.
Patent application goes to the examiner based on the subject. The examiners for
Endonovo have about a 1-2 year backlog. You can go to the Patent Office web site
and see the backlog for each subject. It runs anywhere from about 6 months to about 5 years.
An 8000 page application with 2000 pages of drawings, takes the longest. (Endonovo's longest
patent was 3333 printed pages, (or about 4 times that on typed pages) plus over
2000 pages of drawings).
When the application goes to the examiner, they can reject it or allow it.
Typically, the first submission is rejected. After receiving their response, which must
be filed in 90 days, the examiner can again reject it or allow it. If they reject it, the owner must amend it
to meet the examiner's conditions for allowance.... or get ready for an appeal. Usually it is amended though.
The examiner will then allow it in about 90 more days. Once it is allowed, you have 90 more days to pay
the fees to have the patent issued. Endonovo has "one or more" important applications ready to
issue. By the way, after 10 months from filing, you can see all records of
everything that is on application at the Patent Office web site.
Hope that clears some things up for some.
I can't argue with that. I don't support their style, but I've been lucky enough to get insight into why it's that way. If that's how the people running the company think, what can you do? There's a method to the madness, but I'm not willing to lose my source by posting info that I was asked not to. So I pick and choose carefully. Also have been able to get updates along the way. Everybody should assess and judge what's best for them on their own. (Not aimed at you at all) But I don't really care who believes what I post or not. I'm not here to convince anybody that I have a source who has updated info. I don't care who thinks I'm lying or telling the truth. I just post what I can, when I can. Take it as truth or with a grain of salt. All I'll say is that I wouldn't still be in here posting sh*t for the hell of it, if it weren't true.
Have a great weekend everybody.
You know the drill here. They choose to update only when necessary, not little crumbs along the way.
Just deposited more money into my account this morning than I've put in here at once since April when I bought my core position. Will be ready Monday morning.
Things are still on track and very positive. Weather is playing a part in things currently (both hurricanes Harvey and Irma), for different reasons.
Seems pretty close to impossible from what I've been hearing that we don't have highly successful results of our heart trial. Timing of the results is the only thing that's still an unknown.
Keep your patience nearby still, but know that you aren't being taken for a ride. Well........you are.......but it's the kind of ride we all have been hoping for, and it's getting closer and closer to happening.
If you are evacuating, drive safe. Staying put, be safe.
If I can suggest anything to the longs who've been here with me and some even longer than me.....accumulate and hold it all.
Still a legit connection to the city that they claim has nothing to do with them. They are trying to keep something under wraps very hard IMO. It's going to be coming out here very soon.
Nice find.
Mann is acquiring enough shares to take this thing over also. Wonder if all the Irwin, PA talk is Mann setting things up to move take control and forward when results come out. Who knows, but definitely some interesting stuff getting ready to be unleashed here when the time is right. I can't wait. Buying when I can still. Loving these prices with imminent news coming.
Hundreds of millions at the least. Possibly double digit billions depending on the trials we succeed in and how long they push their patents through the trial process.
No telling really. A lot of the cards are sitting in front of us, but they can play them a number of different ways. We are definitely getting close to something, but again, we just have to wait and see what it is.
One of my sources has suggested that an acquisition, successful trial results and nasdaq uplisting are very possibly what's coming next. I have to watch how I say things. Keep them in an unknown phrasing instead of a positive phrasing. Time frame on this is unknown. We all know from experience here that it can take time to get things finalized.
That's all I've got for now.
I believe that would violate the quiet period...lol.
I have no idea how or with what money. I'm in the same boat of thinking as you are. I'm just reading the tea leaves.
Uplisting would explain the lack of info due to the imposed "quiet period".
But with successful trial results AND acquisition news, this will erupt... r/s or not.
Maybe they have a different plan than an r/s. Biotech's idea sounds much more plausible than a r/s. That makes a lot of sense actually.
Might not be happening, but my intuition is steering me towards that, plus acquisition plus trial news with what I'm finding out.
All imo.
Something big is coming. I have no conclusive evidence, but I believe from what I've seen and found from just digging and connecting the dots, that there's an acquisition in the works. That may or may not have a connection to Irwin, PA. But I do believe BIG events are literally right around the corner, I just can't precisely pinpoint what it is.
I'm wondering, and this is purely my own personal concoction, that they are working on multiple large events....
Trial results
Acquisition
Uplisting
FDA trial beginning
All imo.
I believe the trial would be considered a "material event".
In which case Endonovo would have 4 business days from the day they were notified, of the successful trial, to submit a PR to investors.
It appears they are ramping Inge up for sure.
I didn't have time to investigate anything.
Not sure. I'm going to dig this weekend and see what I can find out. Shoot an email to one of my contacts and see what they have to say.
My thought is that they are just getting set up for FDA trials and probably have enough definitive info to know that they will pass preclinicals with flying colors.
While trying to remain under the radar with the preclinical info since nothing official has been released and likely the preclinicals are still concluding, they are trying to get the FDA phase as close to "ready to go" as they can in order to expedite the next steps. Which is great news, if true.
But this is just my guess/speculation assuming the info we've found is true.
Nice DD. Sounds like they're setting up. Getting their ducks in a row for a massive PR event coming soon. IMO.
Sounds like they might be setting themselves up for when trials news releases soon. If this is actually "something".
I'm going to have to dig into this over the weekend......where there's smoke there's usually some fire.
That's interesting. Because when I emailed IR about the telemarketing ad in Irwin, I got a response from somebody that I've never heard from before. Like they went above and beyond Steve Barnes to get back to me. And the response was fast.
Anything Irwin, PA is fake info put out by someone started crap.
My post wasn't directed at you at all. Sorry if it seemed that way. It was towards whoever would post such an ad because to me it was so illiterately written that I knew there was no way it could be real. If it were, I'd have sold every share that day.....lol. Luckily, they confirmed it was BS.
Sorry for the confusion.
How many of the other companies that you mention as receiving millions of investment dollars, have already begun or are in the process of beginning an FDA trial? All of them?
As you said....one showcase trial done right would get the attention of the big boys. True.....and we'd get bought out for pennies on the dollar compared to if we can fulfill a much larger percentage of our available patents with successful trials.
Why sell your company with just one working possibility for your device, when you can have 6-8 successful trials with patents to back all of them up? Seems like a no brainer to me in order to maximize your value.
For every few million they spend to enter a trial now, they will get a hundred million or more in return on the sale price with that trial being successful and having our patent to back it up.
It's really an investment within and investment. It would be stupid to ride just one trial and then sell, IMO.
When they have SO many possible avenues to explore, with their patents that cover SO many different diseases and treatments....it makes no sense to settle for 1 successful trial.
Besides the fact that some of the diseases we are going after, we CAN and will get FDA "fast track" or "orphan drug" status for, with a successful preclinical trial.
I personally think that they are doing this about the best, most efficient way possible currently.
My suggestion is that you do some research on how long it takes trials to complete.
What type of updates do you want?? Seriously.
There are NO RESULTS yet!!
Do you think in the trials that they get results every day or week???
They are treating diseases in organs and tissue. No info will be official until the end of the trials.
It's not magic. They aren't putting our device on a damaged heart and in a week it's totally healed and data is recorded. Trials take months and even years because it takes that long to verify that the device is healing correctly, consistently and without any side effects.
I just don't understand what you expect to hear. If you break your leg it takes 8 weeks just for your bone to heal enough to take the cast off.
Can you imagine getting an update every week for that?
Week 1- Bone is broken
Week2- Bone is still broken, probably a tiny bit closer together.
Week 3- Bone still broken. Looks a tad closer to touching the other part of the bone.
Week 4- same as week 3.
Week 5- I think the bones are touching, can't really tell.
I just don't get the impatience. This is medicine man.....lol.
It's not developing a new Popsicle flavor or something. This is real sh*t happening in top of the line, well respected university and medical laboratories to develop game changing treatments that will provide a superior option to what currently is the best available out there.
Do you really think that they wouldn't have meetings with an investor and divulge more info than what YOU know from reading their PR's?
Come on man, that's ridiculous. We have investors who are well aware of where we stand and what we have here. Why in e hell would anybody invest right now with a 90% risk, when they can save their money and wait for trial results and invest with a MUCH lower risk to their investment. It's Business 101. Any investor knows that this company is in need of capital to further advance once results come in.
There's no need for them to invest millions right now and honestly their terms would be much more aggressive if they invested in us right now and I don't think Collier and Mann would make a deal with ridiculous interest rates involved.
They are doing this the right way IMO. I'm sorry you don't see it the same and that you expected Novartis to spend $20B to buy us out by now, but that's not how this is going to work.
The magical trigger point is when we get results. That's it. After that, everybody will be willing to cooperate with us and honestly it could be a fight for investors to see who gets to fund us.
Just like Wall Street investors don't throw money at stinky pinks. Multi-million dollar investors don't take huge risks with their income.
If you had $10M and I told you that you had to bet it on a football game, would you rather place your bet before the game starts or when there's only a few minutes left in the game when you can see for sure what the outcome is going to be? No brainier right?
Apply that to any investor looking to fund Endonovo. Why would you do it now? There's no need. They are already paid up to get the trials completed. Hey wouldn't you ain't to see how they do?
It only makes 100% sense if you think about it. That's why it's happening is way.
How else should a company with no revenue yet, pay for trials and other business expenses?
I love when people complain about having to dilute shares. Where the F else are they supposed to get capital from?
If there's no rev's and nobody wants to invest in us without trial results, would you like them to sign a big fat toxic note with a shady stinky pink lender???
Are they supposed to just sh*t money? I'd love to hear how you'd pay for trials and keep your company afloat if you had no income and nobody who would lend you money with friendly terms. Throw out a solution and I'll pass it along to them.
One of my contacts, who knows Collier personally, has said that he is just that way. Not necessarily what shareholders want to hear, but it's just how he does business. He's working the company day in and day out. For whatever reason, he just doesn't feel it necessary to put out updates as frequently as most would like. He's stubborn and this is just his way. Like it or hate it, it's what it is and how it's going to be. He said "that's just how he is." Information comes out when it "needs" to come out.
We just have to adjust to his style of the company updating shareholders infrequently, because it's not going to change.
I have a direct line...lol.
That ad isn't real, as I figured.
Here's the response from IR I just got......
Chris,
"Thank you for bringing this to our attention. This is not our ad. I couldn’t honestly even figure out what it said. It made no sense and I have no idea what the motivation to do this would even be other than possibly click bait. Until you sent this I had never even heard of USjobdesk.com. I`ll have someone contact them immediately. Thanks again.
Best Regards,
Ken
Damn! Almost 60k shares that last day!
Dr. Makowka lives in LA.
That telemarketing ad is a complete piece of sh*t. There's no chance that's real or legit.
No email address to send a resume to, no phone number to call, completely written by someone without a grasp of the English language. Talked in circles over and over.
I think it's BS and someone is trying to cause drama. There is no freaking way Collier and/or Mann are looking for telemarketers in Pennsylvania and that's the ad they posted.
0% chance.
Gotcha....but we've gone 5 days without a form 4 pretty recently. I guess today or tomorrow will tell.
So last documented buy was on Friday.
By SEC regulations, they have 4 business days from notification of a major event, to announce the event publically.
So if they got news over the weekend, that would be Thursday.
If they heard Monday morning, it would be Friday.
I believe, but I'm not sure about this, that he can't buy shares with knowledge of "said event" until it becomes public knowledge.
Monday afternoon one came out.....
27,500 shares on 7/27
17,000 shares on 7/28
Great find! That's an important piece.
Great interview from Dr. Rao, a CEO and independent consultant in the regenerative medicine field, who works for NIH and Johns Hopkins, who has had over 300 papers published.
http://bit.ly/2uQ8gXZ
That's the thing. For arms and legs, sine wave and sawtooth wave can take care of over an extended period of time.
The patented square wave is the optimal treatment for all serious ailments and nobody can use it but us. What takes square wave a week, takes the others 2 months.
Believe me, I get the tight lipped management and time delay frustration, but the technology here is SO superior to anything else out there at rebuilding the heart, liver, for diabetes and GvHD among many others. Those devices you're talking about have barely scratched the surface of what Endonovo's device has done and can do. They will never even come close to our ability due to its inferior wavelengths.
The wave of the future isn't rebuilding arm and foot tissue, it's curing diseases and eliminating major life threatening events by regenerating organs and rebuilding them non-invasively with zero side effects.
If you have 5 amazing basketball players, you don't need a coach because they will succeed with or without a good coach.
The difference is that your wife had the device installed in April. It's now July.
Our square wave technology can do what ALL the others do but in 1/10th of the time.
We are in agreement on management. But once the heart trial results come back, they will have much less of an impact on things because they will be along for the ride just like us as we wait do FDA trials to run their course. After that, we will have big pharma knocking down our door with offers and I truly think by yen we will have other clinical trials finishing up and they will accept an offer by this time next year, end of 2018 at the latest. Just my opinion though. We will definitely get multiple dollars per share, my guess would be somewhere in the $4-$12 range depending on how much higher our o/s gets before we get funding. Hopefully it'll happen in the next month or two.
2 cents pps to $8 pps is a pretty nice profit. I'll be adding weekly.
Everybody should read this......
Perfectly written and I think that expresses what many on here think and feel. I know that I feel the same.
Like you said, a little more clarity would be nice, but the fact that that's how they choose to run their business, isn't a game changer for me by any means.