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Thanks, Janice. I’ll play with it again later today when you’re around.
I think pumper/basher is only acceptable to a point. If the board goes off the rails with numerous back-to-back posts of this nature, I believe the premise of the updated rules is to remove both sides.
As far as name calling — I don’t believe con artist or stupid would stand: No offensive language about anyone (e.g., "retard," "midget," etc.)
I’ll try to report some posts today within these perimeters to see if they’re removed. If not, then nothing has changed.
Ok, thanks.
Im going to try the workaround to tag Janice with the html tag on my app to see if she gets a mention, as we figured out it wasn’t working bc I was tagging her in the same post I was responding to, but I think it’ll work now.
@janice_shell
You were right about the notification not triggering if you’re tagging the person you’re replying to.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172604751
Ah, yeah that may be the case. Makes sense.
Hmm, there’s possibly a bug that they need to work out.
Hey @janice shell did you get a mention?
I’m going over to DD board and tag you there and see if you get a mention.
@janice shell
Glad it worked for you.
It looks for a user name with any combination of the letters you input, but you can scroll the pop-up list until you find the member. This is helpful for people that don’t have an exact alias in mind to search for, but cumbersome for those that do.
@StockItOut
Hmmm, interesting. Thanks for playing, Janice 🙂
Maybe @IH Geek [Meatloaf] can help out.
It’s really for people that you regularly follow bc you have to insert their dedicated number into the html tag, so you have to keep a list of numbers in notes or something similar, and it’s probably easier just to open the browser, but I’m still curious how to get the mention get the alert.
I’m sure they’ll come out with an app update with this feature in the near future, so not a big deal as I haven’t been coming around since the previous TOS rule change.
I’m going to try to use the html tag to mention you since I’m on mobile to see if it works
@janice_shell
I guess the mentions is fleeting like the replies, as apposed to PM. @janice shell
Just type an @ before a user name (alias) in the post/reply field at any point in your post to tag another member in your post/reply, and you’ll get a list of users that pops up to choose from.
Once you type the @ and the first couple of letters of their alias, you’ll see your choices. Each alias has a designated number associated with their profile which will pop-up after their name.
The member you’re tagging will get a notification in the mentions section of their mailbox.
You can tag multiple aliases in a single post.
A lot of these new features seems to only be available on the website.
Just to clarify, and In summary — personal attacks are to be removed effective immediately. Heated conversations are fine and given some latitude, as long as it doesn’t degrade into personal attacks and name-calling.
That’s my take on the highlighted text/changes. It may seem a bit vague to some, but let’s not forget that ihub has always been somewhat vague with TOS, but my sense is we’re veering back on track to civility.
Yes, but my idea is attached and accessible right from the stock board. It’s like if the main stock board gave birth to a nasty little shit lol.
Admin should have a pretty good idea by now — unless of course they checked out and auto-restore enabled lmao.
My masterstroke of a solution: ihub can establish a daily "Roast Limit" on personal attacks – a maximum of let’s say 7-10 zingers (that’s putting it mildly) allowed in any 24 hour timeframe, cumulatively across all boards.
If any member surpasses this quota, their posts will be greyed out and banished to a dark corner (sub-board), where they can continue their verbal skirmishes away from the civilized folks. We'll call it the "Toxicity Twilight Zone." I’m sure it’ll be referenced as titz in no time.
The swear jar can be tracked by TOS reports submitted by members and mods, and adjudicated by admin to qualify into the count. The offending member can see their shit post count racking up, or better yet — a count down to the Twilight Zone.
The unruly can frolic like a wicked gang of drunken teens on the sub-board, while the rest of us can have a smidgen of sanity and relevant content, free from their toxic seasoning.
And, as an added bonus, the audience can be teased with a "Read More" link on the greyed out post, linking to the sub-board, so they too can taste the consequences of these actions, however are more than free to join in the back and forth attacks with practically no consequences.
Why not encourage the shit slingers to mature and behave like responsible adults if they crave an audience beyond the Toxicity Twilight Zone. Otherwise, let them revel in their childish shenanigans without dragging the majority of us down their loony rabbit hole.
As for the long standing notion of a sandwich short of a picnic in their user base, well, they’ve made the choice to cater to these dimwits and alienate the majority that have contributed decades of relative substance, of which has benefited ihub with their fundamental characteristics — so there’s a distinct possibility that’s where they think their bread and butter is. Perhaps they ought to mandate weekly counseling service with each subscription to balance things out.
With my proposed restrictions, we can at least have a bit of safeguard of substantive discussions on a board, and still allow the crazies to freely go on about their nonsense without dragging the entire board into the sewer.
Long live the Roast Limit!
Rat, I don’t log in anymore unless I get an app message notif.
If I find a piece of news for my boards, I may post it, or I might just say screw it lol.
I’ve found that if I’m interested in trading a ticker and I come to the board for some quick info or updates, I’m logging out with a negative vibe that makes me think twice. So, personally speaking it’s not worth the trouble.
I haven’t logged into ihub since 7/19. Obviously the task of moderation is a fools errand, so I can pretty much check out and not miss a beat. As far as checking for updates on a board — that makes a fools errand seem like a work of genius.
Between the spam posts, personal attacks, slanders, grade school name calling, and pure gibberish that consume the majority of space, the boards have become a wasteland of toxic nonsense.
If people have time to wade through this shit soup, then god bless — carry on.
I’ll check back in when I have literally nothing better to do with my time.
I just did a quick scan. It appears there’s still three people without a plea agreement, which means a good chance of further delays.
It may get more traction if at least two of them take a deal in the next 30 days. On 6/5 the judge asked Berly and Ruggeri’s attorneys to finalize plea offers. If there’s a deal, it should happen soon since he ordered them to make a decision — deal or trial.
The government filed Motions to Continue Sentencings Under Seal for Biton and Svorai. That means we’re not getting any info until at earliest October, and that date may very well get extended even further out.
Pretrial is scheduled a few days earlier (10/3) for the defendant without a deal than the proposed date for sentencing for the other three, but I’m thinking Vaccaro is going to push it out further because he has a new court appointed attorney (an excuse), which will probably have a domino affect on the other dates again (10/10 Svorai sentencing).
Sorry man, it’s going to be moving at the same snail pace.
Yes, at least audited financials will provide a small layer of transparency.
I’ll do a quick scan later this afternoon. I just haven’t had any time, but will do a quick scan, and that should be enough to get an idea.
Exactly! At least one example.
That would be helpful to traders that mainly use the site for research (me). I don’t often comment on stocks I’m trading as I’m not an OTC ‘investor’ and don’t need the distraction, but like to read.
I’d hate to lose a site that has been a reliable (and civil) source of insight for nearly a decade.
When I have some time, if you don’t mind some input I’ll send you some suggestions in PM, strictly from a trader’s perspective that may keep both sides of the spectrum happy, and feed two birds with one scone.
That’s not a good option as some of the commentators that previously appeared with relevant info on various boards, have for whatever reason been sucked into the sh!t posting.
The message is completely lost in the back and forth insults, and I find myself trying to figure out what was the point of the thread, only to find more gibberish.
I used to be able to go to a board and rather quickly scan a few pages, follow some threads and have a pretty good grasp of the details for further research…now I’m just looking at multiple pages of noise with no beginning or end.
As a trader looking to make the most of my time, it’s way too time consuming.
I think this is going to have a negative affect on the tickers if an interested trader sees nothing but madness and mayhem.
Personally speaking as a trader, it’s a turnoff to see a board full of amateurs that are more interested in slinging mud than talking sense. I’d think twice about taking a position and trading along with numbskulls tbh.
As the saying goes… Be careful what you ask for.
I’ve tried scanning a couple of boards that I’ve been following for the past couple of months and they’re no longer readable.
There’s so much sh!t slinging that you have to dig deep into the weeds to find a halfway relevant post. It’s exhausting!
Who has the time, patience, and the will to consistently carry out this task?
If someone wanted to actually learn if it’s worth jumping into a play, they’d think twice after looking at these boards.
PublicSq is expected to merge with Colombier Acquisition Corp., the blank check company run by Malik, to go public later this month:
Tucker Carlson lands first major ad deal, investment interest for new media company
Sara Fischer - Axios
Tucker Carlson has struck an ad deal worth more than $1 million with PublicSq, an online marketplace for companies with conservative values, two sources familiar with the agreement told Axios.
Driving the news: Omeed Malik, the chief executive and chairman of the board of the blank check company looking to take PublicSq public this month, is also planning to invest in Carlson's company, sources told Axios.
Malik is also planning to invest seven or eight figures in Carlson's media empire through his private investment firm, 1789 Capital, a source told Axios.
1789 Capital focuses investments in companies that support the "Replication/Parallel Economy," "Deglobalization" and "Anti-ESG (i.e. sectors that have been negatively impacted by such principles)."
Why it matters: The ad deal represents the first commercial agreement that will be part of Carlson's new media venture.
Carlson, The Wall Street Journal reported, is looking to raise a significant amount of money to launch his own digital media company.
The Journal story, which said Carlson is looking to raise "hundreds of millions" of dollars, triggered sizable investor interest from both private investment companies and wealthy individuals, a source told Axios.
Details: Beginning in August, PublicSq will run ads on Carlson's show on Twitter, which streams for free.
The deal is being brokered through Carlson's team and PublicSq directly, a source said, although The Journal reported that Carlson's team has been in touch with Twitter about expanding its partnership.
PublicSq is expected to merge with Colombier Acquisition Corp., the blank check company run by Malik, to go public later this month, Axios has reported.
The ad campaign will be PublicSq's first major marketing push as a public company.
How it works: Carlson's new venture will center around video primarily, both through an owned and operated website and app, and through free video distributed on Twitter, and possibly other social platforms.
Carlson has been pitching investors on the idea that some of the video will eventually be put behind a paywall on his own site, a source told Axios.
Carlson is working with a number of people to help launch the venture, including his former executive producer at Fox News Justin Wells and Neil Patel, a former advisor to then Vice President Dick Cheney and the publisher of conservative news site Daily Caller, which he co-founded with Carlson in 2010, sources told Axios.
One source, who wished to remain anonymous due to the sensitivity of the discussions, noted that it's unlikely the new venture would include an acquisition of The Daily Caller.
A spokesperson representing Carlson did not respond to comment. A spokesperson representing PublicSq and Malik did not comment. Twitter replied for a request to comment with a poop emoji.
CNBC was the first to report the news of the ad deal and investment discussions Sunday evening.
The big picture: Carlson is currently embroiled in a legal battle with his former employer Fox News.
He has argued that Fox News breached his contract when its senior executives reneged on promises made to Carlson "intentionally and with reckless disregard for the truth."
Fox News argues Carlson violated his contract when he launched his own Twitter show last month.
What to watch: Other former Fox News personalities, such as Bill O'Reilly and Megyn Kelly, have gone on to build their own independent media entities upon leaving the cable news sphere.
O'Reilly makes money from selling subscriptions to his content online.
Kelly launched her own firm, called Devil May Care Media, in 2020. It includes video content, podcasts and a newsletter anchored by Kelly's commentary about current events.
Yeah, it’s a really strange story. They raised $12M, and judge agreed to the allegations, yet SEC revised their $22M fine to $111k because they’re broke? Lol I didn’t know that was a viable defense to save yourself over $20M.
Extremist-friendly tech company closes after fine for securities fraud
Experts say LBRY’s failure casts shadow on future of other ‘alt-tech’ sites as Twitter becomes more receptive to far right.
Jason Wilson
The Guardian
LBRY, the company whose video-sharing technology and bespoke cryptocurrency once powered the extremist-friendly video platform Odysee, announced on Twitter this week that it would close its doors after a federal judge in New Hampshire fined the firm more than $111,000 for securities fraud.
The announcement saw the value of its LBRY Credit (LBC) cryptocurrency – which was at the center of the Security and Exchange Commission’s (SEC’s) two-year prosecution of the company – sink to around 1/3000th of a cent by Thursday night.
Experts say that Twitter’s more receptive attitude to extremists (just this week, far-right influencers bragged about the platform giving them five-figure payments) and LBRY’s failure to legally defend its cryptocurrency-fueled “free speech” business model all cast a shadow on the future of other so-called “alt-tech” sites. These sites have tried to build businesses by offering platforms and income streams to those banned from big tech sites and mainstream payment processors.
Launched in 2015, LBRY used blockchain technology as the basis for LBC and the LBRY protocol, which allows peer-to-peer distribution of content without centralized oversight or moderation. In a 2019 blog post, the LBRY founder, Jeremy Kauffman, touted the protocol as “the most censorship-resistant system to ever exist for the purposes of publishing digital content”, and in publicity materials, the company has claimed that “LBRY does to publishing what Bitcoin does to money”.
In 2020, LBRY launched Odysee, a video publishing platform with a similar look and feel to YouTube, where users could easily publish and watch videos using the LBRY protocol, and a mechanism for buying LBC which users could use to support their favorite creators.
Odysee did publish community standards, and repeatedly insisted that they could and would exclude material published through LBRY that did not meet them.
In the wake of Covid-19, the November 2020 election, and the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, however, LBRY’s management promoted the site in public and in private as a refuge for creators banned from mainstream sites over the promotion of conspiracy theories about coronavirus or stolen elections.
In May 2021, the Guardian reported that Julian Chandra – then vice-president for growth at LBRY, now CEO of Odysee – told employees in an email that “being a white nationalist or nazi isn’t grounds for removal. Are you nazi that makes videos about the superiority of the white race? That is NOT grounds for removal.”
At that time, Odysee was one of a number of “alt-tech” sites – others included BitChute and Rumble – whose looser moderation standards had a strong appeal for extremists. But developments at Twitter under Musk, new social media offerings from Meta, BlueSky and the growth of nonproprietary decentralized social media protocols such as Mastodon raise questions about alt-tech’s survival.
While Chandra’s moderation decisions were made behind the scenes, the public face of LBRY and Odysee in that period was the founder and LBRY CEO, Jeremy Kauffman, who himself became more involved in fringe rightwing politics during LBRY’s history.
Kauffman is now a member of the Libertarian party’s far-right Mises caucus; the Free State Project, which seeks to encourage libertarians to move to New Hampshire in order to remodel the state’s government. In 2022, he ran for the US Senate as a libertarian in New Hampshire, telling one interviewer he wanted “less democracy” in the country.
When he took over the New Hampshire Libertarian party’s Twitter for a period in 2021, Kauffman wrote that Republicans should “repeal the Civil Rights Act”, and in another tweet wrote that “GitMo” should be “left open so that Anthony Fauci and every governor that locked their state down should be sent there”.
On his own account this week, Kauffman posted a 2020 AP picture of El Salvadoran prisoners crammed tightly crammed together in a yard with the caption, “my position on what should be done with every government regulator”.
The Guardian contacted LBRY for comment but received no immediate response.
Megan Squire, the deputy director for data analytics and OSINT in the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project, said alt-tech sites continue to have downsides for their users, including extremists hoping to use the sites to fund their activities.
She said established big tech sites like Twitter offered “more eyeballs and bigger audiences” to extremists, and “also normalizes their ideas, so of course they’re gonna want to be on them”.
Squire added that big tech’s larger audiences go hand in hand with easier ways for creators to make money.
“More eyeballs means bringing in more money. The user interface is going to be more sophisticated. You’re going to have more options for where your payment goes and for currency conversions.”
She added that “mainstream sites bring mainstream benefits” to fans, who can “use credit cards instead of a sketchy crypto from who knows where”.
In 2021, Odysee was spun off into a separate company in the face of LBRY’s mounting legal difficulties, and no longer uses LBC for on-site payments. (According to Squire, the site now uses Stripe as its payment processor.)
Those legal troubles began in 2021 when an SEC complaint alleged that the coins were also investment contracts issued to “financially support [LBRY’s] operations and promotional efforts”. The agency claimed that from 2016 LBRY had illegally raised $12.2m from LBC sales.
In a judgment last November, Judge Peter Barbaro agreed, determining that LBC tokens sold between 2016 and 2021 were an unregistered security, and the company had therefore violated the Securities Act. The judge rejected LBRY’s argument that they had received insufficient notice of the SEC’s rules on cryptocurrencies.
LBRY’s announcement came the same day that Judge Peter Barbadoro fined the company in accordance with his judgement last November. The judge thus agreed with the SEC’s 2021 complaint alleging the company had illegally raised some $12.2m in a series of sales of LBC from 2016.
When the judgement was handed down, the SEC initially asked for a $22m fine. In a May filing, they revised that down to $111,614, citing LBRY’s “lack of funds and near-defunct status”.
The Guardian contacted the SEC for comment but received no immediate response.
Sentencing has been pushed back to 10/10.
Postponed to 10/10. May not matter if they get revoked before then.
Thanks for the info, Stars. I still haven’t had a chance to take a closer look (maybe over the weekend) but you are correct, it’s all connected to the ones not taking pleas. The sealed filings stood out as an obstacle in my view when I glanced at it the other day.
Taieb took a deal in May 2022 if I’m not mistaken, just to have an idea with these delays, and that the rescheduling is likely just procedural, and may not come to a conclusion until either the others cut a deal or they go to trial. Maybe next year? Yikes, hope not.
Has there been any indictments filed for any of the others that took a deal? Any new associated dockets? The charges (indictment by information) detailing the crime(s) should be filed at some point prior to sentencing, unless that’s what’s under seal, which would indicate a long haul, however it could still be a long haul regardless of the filing judging by Taieb’s timeline, unless of course the others cooperate in a plea. Keep an eye out for that.
Also, did both Berly and Biton take a deal? Last I checked it was either Berly or Biton (I don’t recall) that hadn’t taken a deal.
Deleting and reinstalling the app seems to have fixed the issue (for now). I generally do this as a last resort since I have to reset notification prefs.
Come to think of it, I don’t think I’ve ever had to do that for this app, but it started to get glitchy a few weeks ago.
As long as it’s in context, then I think it stands — needs on-topic filler in-between jabs and insults lol.
For example: I’m so glad that Acme Co. and the recent news releases from Wile E Coyote has provided something to fill your empty existence.
Although, I don’t believe that particular comment on its own would be grounds for deletion in iHub 2.0.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172324257
I did reboot as well as a hard reset. Ugh I hope it resolves somehow
Dave, something broke with iHub app on iPad today. It crashes as soon as I open it. Any idea what’s going on? I’ve tried hard reset to no avail. Help
I doubt the delay will favor him, other than delaying the inevitable. I saw some sealed docs filed, so I think they’re still working some angles. If it wasn’t for the three not taking pleas, this would’ve probably moved slightly faster.
The government works at a snail’s pace, so I wouldn’t be surprised if there are more delays as we get closer to October.
I’ll have to take some time to look at the timeline for the others, and how it lines up to have a better understanding of what to expect. I haven’t kept up with all the defendants in the past couple of months, but I’ll take a look when I have some free time.
I would use that thumbs up thingy for this post if it was available on the app.
Dave — I’m just kidding, please don’t add it to the app :)
I should’ve put it in bold lol.