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What happened? Why we not trading?
If they had already started the paperwork then it might not require 15 business days. If it does then oh well will make us rich one day or the next.
Go CWIR
thanks!
I am curious as to where you guys are getting this low float. I saw in the last filing there was more than 5 billion shares out. Have noticed it doesn't really trade much which is a sign of a low float but curious as to how you got the number.
TDA won't allow this to trade (says only available in physical form), would I need a new company to trade with to buy into this?
so in other words "when you want to use it". I put a mathematical valuation for each of the branches of ILIV with potential value and when we were at 600 M outstanding shares I posted it with numbers that were no exaggeration for what we didn't know (at the time didn't know venturian was only 1.5M in revenue).
You most likely forget but you called me out for saying we would go to a dollar in a few years and you said we would need to be worth 6 billion...it's ok for you to use true value but nobody else apparently?
Hopefully you are right, would need to be over 12 million in assets to be over a penny...
1 million in revenue would value the company at .000769 due to the amount of shares currently out. We don't really know what Dr. Larry has been able to do yet sales wise. I still think it will get past a penny after venturian closes however the true value is essentially nothing due to the amount of shares out. Also not sure what the asset value of venturian is and our other current values of mind 360 and dr larry.
I bet they acquire a company that is already distributing and are able to transfer the license over or something along those lines. Also they could still sell their items to the stores just wouldn't be able to have a stand at first.
Since he has started helping srna they have dropped. Maybe our issue is Gabe! Just an FYI the TA never replied to my email, I will call them on my day off Wednesday and will update then.
me too! Don't understand why they didn't just halt it on Monday if they were worried about a drop from the pre adcom papers.
They are kind of not reporting now since they are already late on extended 10-k deadline. However not really their fault since they had the issue with the Accountant the week before the 10-k was due. Venturian close should take this back up to the 7s or maybe 8s. I sent out another email today to the TA to get an exact number of shares out.
I don't see this jumping huge before news... right before April 1st we went up because of the rumors it would be completed by then. Right now just have impatient people selling.
Question for everyone, trying to get opinions. What would be better for our PPS... one big PR with all of the details, or 4-5 PR's with meat as well spread out over 2-3 weeks. Also do you think it would be logical for in the PR Grande to put his twitter handle so all investors can get the updates?
I think 4-5 PR's would be best as long as each one had meat to it.
3 billion and didn't mean outstanding meant authorized... Mistyped from phone.
Did anybody think maybe the 3 million increase in outstanding is the 3 million that can be converted in that time? Pretty obvious that is it...
I would go with FZBZ, paints the whole picture of our new name.
Thank you for this. Looks like all of my questions sent in were answered except the a/s structure.
Someone needs to do a question by question analysis of the responses on the board for those stuck at work (me).
Venturian will add more than the 1.5 million to the market cap. My bet is the asset value is between 5-10 million.
I got our market cap at 6,568,247
1,287,891,725*.0051
Got to keep in mind revenue should start for Mind360 and Dr Larry. Also venturian has 1.5 million in revenues which doesn't include the things we plan on using the cloud network for.
I think if Dr Larry products go retail like walgreens or rite aid or even wal Mart we could see huge revenues. Also if cannaboid products were to go to medical mj places. I don't see huge revenues unless they expand the brand to retail.
How would a merger effect the share price compared to a buyout? Would it at all?
I don't really know why the times we broke a penny after the original crash wasn't sustained though. We haven't been diluted since February (100m shares added since March 1st) I think people are waiting for more concrete evidence to come on board. I don't think we will get mj buyers till our products are on the market.
Also is anybody going to post a summary of tomorrow call? I sadly have to work and want to know if they answer my question about getting Dr Larry items on retail shelves.
Reason we fell from 2 cents is dilution to raise money to acquire venturian (I hope). We need revenues that way we won't need to sell shares to raise money. Best way to raise money is when the company was hot like it was at the time. Who knows what would have happened if they hadn't added more and more shares in February. So revenues will cure all.
Also venturian will add a lot of value to the company value due to the cloud network it brings.
Did somebody confirm that the PBS special wasn't about Surna and is about ILIV? I know Gabe didn't specify which company it was about since he is representing them both and I didn't know who the people were in the picture of him waiting to do the pbs thing.
I finally was able to read the entire PR (stuck at work today). Great news, now I really hope they answer my question I sent in whether they plan on expanding DR Larry products to retail stores to maximize profits and exposure.
FYI Intelligent Energy is in stock at Drlarrydirect. Got it out early than I expected (believe they stated middle of April) but I have been checking for it everyday. Once I hear back from them on how long a bottle should last I might order some.
There isn't, just struck me as odd that the filings had two different company names. I noticed it with cashclan's last two posts he pointed it out.
Weird question... why in one is the company referred as Central Wireless Inc and others Central USA Wireless?
http://www.sos.state.co.us/biz/ViewImage.do?fileId=20141031087&masterFileId=20141031087
That one banker listed on the 4th it shows Central USA Wireless
http://www.sos.state.co.us/biz/ViewImage.do?fileId=20141225689&masterFileId=20141225689
That one is central wireless Inc change to fuzz n buzz.
Can't wait to see what is in store for tomorrow. Love the outlook so far. Anybody have any ideas for the above? They look like two separate companies.
Question then is what did we spend 8 million dollars on with all those February shares added lol. Pry should cover venturian fully I hope.
good news! From TA just now.
No new shares added the past week. Same share structure.
O/s 1,287,891,725
Float 1,050,645,097
Restricted 237,246,628
It's actually an assumption that the dilution was for our acquisitions. That is something I would love to hear about during the conference call because It would put ease to the dilution. Without revenues earning money by selling shares is the only way to acquire these companies. They raised roughly 8 million in february/March (mostly february) with shares, that would seem about right for green roads cost IMO (I didn't look at the share increase in January which could have happened for venturian). I am in the believe just like you that they sold shares to pay for these acquisitions but until I hear from them I won't be sold on it as much.
Also our A list advisers are being paid on a schedule (never released the schedule so no clue how long). I still like ILIV, if I hear some things I wanted during the call I will be buying HEAVY friday and monday.
Friday 11am, I am more interested in hearing their 15 minute speech then answering the questions they hand picks and already have answers for. Will most likely dodge the tough questions like dilution or anything involving SS. IMO if they go out and answer those questions (even though not truthfully) it still is a plus in my book. I will be stuck working so hopefully somebody will listen and post some of it here.
So today is the opposite of yesterday. Low volume but going in the opposite direction (if you count low as against our average). I view anything under 40M average in penny land as low. Today looks like a whole lot of sellers, not enough buyers. IMO this is on watch lists but everybody is waiting to jump in when news hits which may be to late.
Another day with no update on venturian. First thing I do when I get up is check twitter to see if pnk posted any news for ILIV. Rather disappointing that we might test the 3's today.
A summary of the arcview would have been a waste of money. Costs money for each PR to be released so why waste it on talking about a conference unless something big came out of it. Maybe the company has another LOI right now but are looking to close the others first AND possibly not announce the LOI until it's concrete so we don't have kandypens all over again. I agree it would have been nice to see some news but only if it was going to add value to our shares and if something came of arcview that added value then sure put out a release. They can give you your summary of the meeting on friday and I am sure it will be highlighted in the call.
I agree with alot of what you are saying though, conference call won't answer all of our questions. They will dodge questions about the Share Structure IMO, will most likely answer questions involving the LOI's that could possibly both be unclosed before the meeting. I do believe both LOI's will work out (kandypens was canceled in a couple weeks while these are multiple months on both). I know somebody mentioned it earlier today, the SS needs addressed by the company, 6B A/S is too high.
Just an FYI a lot of the marijuana stock sites don't consider us a Marijuana stock or just don't show our ticker. http://marijuanaindex.org/
http://marijuanastocks.com/content/list-marijuana-stocks
http://doughja.com/cannabis-industry-stock-list/
http://www.thcbiz.com/marijuana-stocks.html
These are a few to show most don't see this as a pot stock yet. Goes back to my added value post, most have forgot about green roads, 2 months since the announcement of the LOI.
no clue on the value of Dr. Larry Direct or Mind360. It's not solely value however, it's more of a portrayed futuristic value which is based on the view of the value in the future. Which is why companies usually go up on good news because it adds more potential value to the company. Our 2 cent stock price had the futuristic value of green roads and venturian in it because they were all very fresh in that value along with Tom Bollich.
2 months later some investors are most likely abandoning all three of those futuristic values because they are not here. Team that with adding 400 million shares from 2/13-4/2, IMO this is about right.
One huge issue though is the company never put values on venturian's actual company. It is a private company so can't look up records of revenues, it could literally be a pile of poop with revenues of a couple grand, or it can be a gold mind with revenues over a million. IMO the assets that come with Venturian alone should be worth at least 1M, revenues could make it great depending on the amount we are paying which is another unknown factor yet (which I am hoping the 400M shares was taken out for).
We also don't know the value of the patents from Green Roads LLC or what the exact pending patents are. This is another thing that could be valuable.
The main issue remains is the O/S shares is very high currently for a company with very little revenue right now (Dr Larry Direct has revenue and anybody who signed up for Mind360 without subscription code). I expected this drop to occur in March because most of the news was due to hit at the end of March and early April. I think the value added news that was expected to close caused some to lose faith and dump their shares.
In order for this to rise we will need closings of the LoI's, I personally would like to see past revenues for Venturian attached to the press release of the closing (stated we would keep clients they currently had). With Green roads would like to see them announce a plan to execute the creation of the patents. We will need to see visually value added Pr's. By that I mean no more adding people to the board (they bring value but the value isn't very noticeable). I am glad they didn't post a PR about arcview, would have been a waste of money when they can tell people who care about the company on Friday in the 15 minute speech they are giving. It would have also been a non visual value adding PR because you can't put a dollar amount of value from them attending arcview.
So unless we get news then it's lower, or for that matter even with news lol.