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Thank you... and thank you. I view my LVVV stock as a write-off now and my preference is to take it next year or later (I don't know the tax rules so maybe it doesn't matter). Regarding the Orwelled post, it's unfortunate that this board is vulnerable to the fraudster's airbrush.
Someone following this lead zeppelin and who is honest (i.e. not still touting), please offer thoughts on whether the company will last into January.
Why do you single out vegasrob for having an agenda? He is skeptical, okay, but he makes an effort at intelligent analysis and argument. There are several people on this board who regularly post and re-post pro-LVVV propaganda, repetitive blather, and obvious BS. As we speak they are preparing to slap the ask and load up during this down period because the stock will soon be at $1+ ITHO. Because they can make 1M chews daily and a $.05 profit on each chew so they will soon make a $1.5M MONTHLY PROFIT! OMG LOL!
outstanding.
Well said.
Well said, vegasrob. I'd say more but with the way the stock is dropping I have to prepare to "load up" later this week.
An actual substantive reply would have been preferable to an unprovoked attack on housepainter. The guy made a valid point. Those of you who spew cheerleading blather all the time are no more palatable than someone who offers an incisive challenge.
By the way, based on reading some of the posts from earlier in the day, your sarcasm detector is broken. Re-read the Gates-Buffett-hundreds-millions exchange.
Yeah, that's the ticket...
Good point. Some of the posters here seem to have wandered over from the Ministry of Truth. I'm long LVVV but could do without the obvious propaganda.
I would like to thank tat4tat (and some others) for coming here and would ask that people show a little more maturity, regardless of your position on LVVV and its future.
I myself am long for a long time now (my $ states my opinion better than I can), but LVVV is still a risky proposition and I would be skeptical of anyone who does not see that. I welcome the voices of people who might deviate from the party line, and I find some of the irrational and repetitive cheerleading here to be a waste of time.
Weekly proclamations that it will, e.g., be up 400% soon are fine, I suppose, but the reflexive hostility to any skepticism is itself a red flag. Cheerleading and browbeating that LVVV is not a typical penny kind of defeats its own purpose.
This is a good PR -- the other party specifically mentions and touts LVVV. That PR with the generic quote (don't remember which one) was very weak in comparison, the apologist-propagandists notwithstanding.
More street-level feedback:
Monday night, on Las Vegas Strip between the major casinos and downtown, I saw Livewire at a 7-11.
Me: "You selling a lot of those Livewire things?"
Cashier: "Yeah."
Me: "People like'em?"
Cashier: (nodding) "Yeah."
I guess because this post is positive it won't get attacked by the peanut gallery.
So far, 3 sites in Vegas, 1 definite positive, 1 middling-to-lightly-positive, 1 negative. That's actually pretty good.
Is "fill the gap" Boardspeak for "I made another bad intraday or intraweek prediction?"
Approximately three of you greatly reduce the utility of this board with your ceaseless propaganda. E.g. I think I got the thing about the CEO foregoing salary the 27th or 28th time it was posted. I report on someone telling me the product did nothing for her and she must be drunk or a liar? Your endless regurgitation of the same talking points would be more at home on MSNBC or Fox News. Or TASS.
Rebel store in NW Vegas yesterday had LVVV. I picked it up and asked the cashier:
"Are you selling a lot of these?"
"No."
So it's 1-for-2 in Vegas.
I gave sour apple chews to 2 women I know who swear by Monster. They reported no energy boost, and I did not tell them I owned stock until after hearing their opinion.
Obviously, this means the stock should be at 0.15
namtae, forgive me for kinda speaking for you, but I think the point namtae was making is something like this: it's possible some flunky for that company's guy just cut and pasted a generic quote and emailed it to LVVV. that sort of thing. "We are happy to welcome Livewire into our family of innovative products" would have a bit more zing.
Thank you -- regardless of LVVV's future, this kind of thoughtfulness is a good addition to the cheerleaders and nattering nabobs of negativism.
Las Vegas product citing and informal feedback info
I saw Livewire at the cash register of a Rebel convenience store about 10 miles from the Vegas Strip last night. They were selling them as singles or doubles (i.e. not in the box). The cashier said they are selling, not especially briskly, but they are selling. She also said they are very popular with firefighters and that she has tried them and thinks they're pretty good.
FYI, nothing more.
Well said.
That's not really on point, but thanks. Just to clarify: I am interested in nothing other than an answer to my question. If you don't have it, no big deal. Suggesting that I call IR strikes me as perhaps well-intentioned but a bit oblivious considering the whole of my original question.
Do any of you actually know what the terms are for any of these rollouts and expansions, i.e. how much are is LVVV making on these deals? Are they giving the product away to enable great-sounding PRs? Given the company's history, these are fair questions. I would only ask that if all you have is speculation or an opinion based on anything other than actual knowledge, please don't reply. Thank you.
Can anyone who watches LVVV regularly explain what happened when the bid went to .0465 off a .0406 trade and then hung there, and then disappeared as soon as the market closed?