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I have been writing NYC since Friday with no response. I am thinking about calling him on the phone.
THIS NEW SPEED ROCKS!
I am sorry if this pisses my big buddy off but I feel we must point out brilliance wherever we may happen to find it...
"What a shame that a few cry baby no talent Punks can't handle the heat they deal out, so they must make us all unhappy. Some people just never grow up.
As great as the Internet is, it has created a shield from which all the paper a-n-u-s wussies to hide behind. In real life they would be powerless. This is the sad part that comes with the good. Never before have the 'weakies' had such freedom and protection. So now they feel as if they need to punish us all with their bulls-hit revenge.
Total Sadness,
Onebgg"
A master at defending sh-t while distancing yourself from it...Certain behavior of late has been deplorable. However as the perpetrators have been your friends I have watched you run to their defense and contribute in their activities to defend their positions no matter how weak they were.
A) as my post stated I didn't know what was going on only took a guess. I see how you flew into "foam" when you read it. Must have stirred some truth to exact such a response.
B)"it was nothing more than a poke in the ribs"
Yeah like kicking him in a sore spot. Jokes, or perceived attacks on families, are what has continued to fuel this fire. If it was a joke it was in extremely poor taste especially in light of the recent going on here at IH and especially with the poster you named. MRS Viv doesn't mind those jokes and that you know. But just the same Paule and NYC think they are offensive and this you also know. So it could have easily been delivered in good taste, but you chose not to. NYC would elicit the biggest response and since all you got was another’s interpretation of your failed ‘JAB’ once again you fly to defend a shi$$y action.
Caring not what you think about the source, your actions speak louder than your feeble excuses. You can only walk the fence for so long before you fall to one side. Now insult me with your next retort, I enjoy the emotion in your posts.
Maybe Wallace is Gunshy?
NO Over at RB Waif and Judd have been making fun of NYC's wife and just today Judd told NYC he could come back to MF now that they slapped his peepee.
I guess I am glad these two do not consider their friend.
It was raining hard in 'Frisco,
I needed one more fare to make my night.
A lady up ahead waved to flag me down,
She got in at the light.
Oh, where you going to, my lady blue,
It's a shame you ruined your gown in the rain.
She just looked out the window, and said
"Sixteen Parkside Lane".
Something about her was familiar
I could swear I'd seen her face before,
But she said, "I'm sure you're mistaken"
And she didn't say anything more.
It took a while, but she looked in the mirror,
And she glanced at the license for my name.
A smile seemed to come to her slowly,
It was a sad smile, just the same.
And she said, "How are you Harry?"
I said, "How are you Sue?
Through the too many miles
and the too little smiles
I still remember you."
It was somewhere in a fairy tale,
I used to take her home in my car.
We learned about love in the back of the Dodge,
The lesson hadn't gone too far.
You see, she was gonna be an actress,
And I was gonna learn to fly.
She took off to find the footlights,
And I took off to find the sky.
Oh, I've got something inside me,
To drive a princess blind.
There's a wild man, wizard,
He's hiding in me, illuminating my mind.
Oh, I've got something inside me,
Not what my life's about,
Cause I've been letting my outside tide me,
Over 'till my time, runs out.
Baby's so high that she's skying,
Yes she's flying, afraid to fall.
I'll tell you why baby's crying,
Cause she's dying, aren't we all.
There was not much more for us to talk about,
Whatever we had once was gone.
So I turned my cab into the driveway,
Past the gate and the fine trimmed lawns.
And she said we must get together,
But I knew it'd never be arranged.
And she handed me twenty dollars,
For a two fifty fare, she said
"Harry, keep the change."
Well another man might have been angry,
And another man might have been hurt,
But another man never would have let her go...
I stashed the bill in my shirt.
And she walked away in silence,
It's strange, how you never know,
But we'd both gotten what we'd asked for,
Such a long, long time ago.
You see, she was gonna be an actress
And I was gonna learn to fly.
She took off to find the footlights,
And I took off for the sky.
And here, she's acting happy,
Inside her handsome home.
And me, I'm flying in my taxi,
Taking tips, and getting stoned,
I go flying so high, when I'm stoned.
Mr. Tanner
by Harry Chapin
Mister Tanner was a cleaner from a town in the Midwest.
And of all the cleaning shops around he'd made his the best.
But he also was a baritone who sang while hanging clothes.
He practiced scales while pressing tails and sang at local shows.
His friends and neighbors praised the voice that poured out from his throat.
They said that he should use his gift instead of cleaning coats.
But music was his life, it was not his livelihood,
and it made him feel so happy and it made him feel so good.
And he sang from his heart and he sang from his soul.
He did not know how well he sang; It just made him whole.
His friends kept working on him to try music out full time.
A big debut and rave reviews, a great career to climb.
Finally they got to him, he would take the fling.
A concert agent in New York agreed to have him sing.
And there were plane tickets, phone calls, money spent to rent the hall.
It took most of his savings but he gladly used them all.
But music was his life, it was not his livelihood,
and it made him feel so happy and it made him feel so good.
And he sang from his heart and he sang from his soul.
He did not know how well he sang; It just made him whole.
The evening came, he took the stage, his face set in a smile.
And in the half filled hall the critics sat watching on the aisle.
But the concert was a blur to him, spatters of applause.
He did not know how well he sang, he only heard the flaws.
But the critics were concise, it only took four lines.
But no one could accuse them of being over kind.
(spoken) Mr. Martin Tanner, Baritone, of Dayton, Ohio made his
Town Hall debut last night. He came well prepared, but unfortunately
his presentation was not up to contemporary professional standards.
His voice lacks the range of tonal color necessary to make it
consistently interesting.
(sung) Full time consideration of another endeavor might be in order.
He came home to Dayton and was questioned by his friends.
Then he smiled and just said nothing and he never sang again,
excepting very late at night when the shop was dark and closed.
He sang softly to himself as he sorted through the clothes.
Music was his life, it was not his livelihood,
and it made him feel so happy and it made him feel so good.
And he sang from his heart and he sang from his soul.
He did not know how well he sang; It just made him whole.
So the Non-censor crowd kicked NYC off their super special private web sight for some sort of punishment period. They “slapped his peepee” Yeah seems his temporary censorship is over, so they are telling him he can come back now. Why he was removed is a mystery. It goes against every argument ever put forth by that crowd. Censorship is censorship period. However they did it. Maybe they were mad at NYC for starting the New Swamp thread, and felt a little punishment was in order. Wow!
Sure am glad Matt has this place moving faster. The RB just isn’t what it used to be.
Justifications anybody?
Fast-food meals leave journalist far from happy
Apr 06, 2001 (Chicago Tribune - Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service via COMTEX)
-- Like many parents, Eric Schlosser regularly took his young sons to
McDonald's.
"We were big customers," said Schlosser, an investigative journalist and
correspondent for Atlantic Monthly. "We ordered a lot of Happy Meals."
Then Schlosser accepted an assignment from Rolling Stone magazine to write about
the fast-food industry. What started out in his mind as a "kitschy, funny story"
soon moved to something deeper and more serious. The end result is a current
best-selling book, "Fast Food Nation: The Dark Side of the All-American Meal"
(Houghton Mifflin, $25).
Schlosser's kids, now 8 and 10, no longer eat at any fast-food restaurants.
"The more I reported on the industry, the more angry I became," Schlosser said.
"When I was done with the reporting, I was done with fast food."
The book focuses on hamburgers and fries as a symbol of what's wrong with
American eating habits and the businesses that foster them. This book becoming a
best seller offers a flicker of hope that those habits and the fast-food
industry can be changed for the better.
Even so, Schlosser is quick to clarify that he doesn't see McDonald's, Burger
King, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Taco Bell - you name the franchise - as culprits
for all of society's ills. It's more like a super-size share.
"I do not mean to suggest that fast food is solely responsible for every social
problem now haunting the United States," Schlosser writes. "In some cases (such
as the malling and sprawling of the West) the fast-food industry has been a
catalyst and a symptom of larger economic trends. In other cases (such as the
rise of franchising and the spread of obesity) fast food has played a more
central role."
Schlosser serves plenty of statistics: In 1970, Americans spent about $6 billion
on fast food. In 2000 they spent $110 billion, or more than what we spend on
movies, books, magazines, newspapers, videos and recorded music combined. Twenty
years ago, three-quarters of the money used to buy food was spent to prepare
meals at home. Now about half is spent at restaurants, mostly fast-food
franchises. The rate of obesity among American children has doubled since the
late 1970s. Dietary guidelines typically recommend that one-third or less of
calories of any child's meal come from fat, but about half of any Happy Meal
calories derive from fat (the chicken nuggets option is less healthful than the
hamburger meal).
Nonetheless, Schlosser's book stands out for its storytelling. You will learn
why french fries taste so good despite being mass-produced. He explains why,
aside from the salad greens and tomatoes, most fast food is delivered to a
restaurant already frozen, canned, dehydrated or freeze-dried. Readers go inside
beef slaughterhouses to discover the substandard conditions for workers. Plus,
check out the details about meat processing in this country (a fast-food
hamburger can contain meat from dozens or even hundreds of cattle) and why "many
workers would not eat anything at their restaurant unless they made it
themselves."
"My wife and I have decided we won't allow our kids to eat ground beef at all,"
Schlosser said. "The meat-recovery system in this country allows for too much
bone marrow and bone meal to potentially be in the meat."
While Schlosser's point is not directly about bovine spongiform encephalopathy
(BSE), or mad-cow disease, there is a connection. In Europe, where the disease
is taking a grip on humans and cattle alike, health agencies believe the highest
risks of tainted meat come from burgers, sausages and cuts of meat still
attached to bone. The theory is these meat sources and bones can contain more
nerve fibers that can harbor deadly "prion" proteins that infiltrate the brain.
From Schlosser's perspective, the most telling part of mad-cow concerns occurred
last month. McDonald's demanded that any beef it buys beginning Sunday has to
meet the U.S. Food and Drug Administration standards for cattle feed (basically
by disallowing cow or sheep byproducts, which is logical enough because cows do
not normally eat other cows). Large beef-packing companies responded quickly by
saying they would meet the April 1 deadline and provide the documentation from
suppliers for all shipments.
The FDA recently reported that hundreds of feed makers failed to comply with its
rules, which are aimed at keeping BSE from spreading should it reach the U.S.
The problem is, the FDA rules on feed were established in 1997. What the
government couldn't do in four years, McDonald's managed in less than four
weeks.
"It shows how powerful McDonald's can be in getting what it wants," Schlosser
said.
(Bob Condor writes for the Chicago Tribune. Write to him at: the Chicago
Tribune, 435 N. Michigan Ave., Chicago, Ill. 60611.)
By Bob Condor
Chicago Tribune
Just relating to everyone that even though both our pigs will be B@C
A) mine will be bigger
B) I will also score a B@C fish with my new fly rod
C) you'll be jealous
That's all. AR AR AR
Introduced as pack animals they now have too many. However I understand you have to have a guide.
Have not had the privilege of very much travel myself. You are a lucky individual. You probably have a big photo album just packed full of memories.
Did you like that type of work?
The Japan and young part threw me. Sales, really....
A travel agent???
BTW Pre I have been talking about you at the swamp. eom
They have camel season down there.
Was your father in the military or something?
Only A month and a half till Pre and I are in Cali shooting our world record Boars. These pigs are going to be so awesome that B@C will have to make a new category for 'gargantuan'!
Most will offer to pay us for the privilege to take a picture with us standing next to our trophies. Yes just to be in our presence will give then all chubbies.
Meanwhile, Paule, due to his awesome ability to do multiple tasks at once, will also snag the biggest fish the natives have ever seen come out of that area. And Pre will be jealous
Thanks but I'll have to pass up on that opp....
However if the rest of you are even remotely interested in a 2002 Elk Hunt in Arizona let me know.
Is it true that the Blazers finish out the regular season with the Spurs?
THat would be cool! A group of us to converge on Arizona to meet each other in person and Hunt Elk!
Arizona is just a short drive away for most of us.
The day was long, it was hot, you could see the steam rising from the dirt road as we walked back to the truck after hours of hunting through the ridges of Kokee.
It was what we called a hard luck day. No tracks! No digs! No pigs!
Then as we tiredly walked to the truck a giant boar was by the tailgate of our truck. He was huge! At least 250 pounds! Tusk that stuck out of his mouth at least 4 inches. Funny we walked miles and miles and the wild mountain boar was waiting for us back at the truck eating our left over breakfast that we had forgotten on the bumper.
I lifted my gun. But, couldn't shoot! If I shoot, I hit the truck, my new truck! The boar stopped, he smelt us creeping towards him, he looked up at us and turned towards the bushes and bolted out of there! I chased the boar but it was no where to be found!
It was a hard luck day of hunting!
Found on the web author ?
Do you play options Carolyn?......
I've been playing the April 25 puts and the April 27.50 calls on MCD corp.
Two times on the calls in the last week, I have gone from .35 and .50, to .80 cents on the bid. The bid is back down to .60 and I am waiting for even lower. If you don't do options, Look at IFF for defense and VASO at 3.50 or lower for buy-in, and 4-4-4.50 for get out.
Good luck babe.
Matey.........
Arizona: Record High Elk Permits Recommended
A record high number of elk hunt-permit tags is being recommended for this fall, but the recommended level of deer permits has reached another historic low.
The Arizona Game and Fish Department is recommending that the Game and Fish Commission establish 24,760 elk hunt-permit tags at its April 15 meeting in Phoenix at the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge #2 on 19th Avenue just south of Thunderbird Road. The department is also recommending 45,850 deer permits, which would be a record low offering and a decrease of 970 permits from last year. Click here from the rest of the story.
Can you do a guy a favor and check into out of state licence and ELK tag fee's please? I hear the Elk are huge down there.
Hey Pre... Yeah that Carolyn grooved me into exhaustion. Give me few more minutes and I’ll catch my second wind. I think that Carolyn took professional dancing lessons or something. She’s shaking my ass all over the dance floor.
About shooting, Any day cept Saturday. I was hoping to acquire a range finder first. But what the hell, I miss the mountain.
If they wanted our business they would cater to our tastes as well as our pocket books. BK’s 99 cent meal menu is good food. Poppers and such. There is plenty of ways to cater to both adult and child.
Denver Opens Trade Office in Shanghai, China
SHANGHAI, China, Mar 31, 2001 (The Denver Post - Knight Ridder/Tribune Business
News via COMTEX) -- A block east of Denver's new trade office here, Alex Zhang,
28, inhaled from a cigarette at the McDonald's where he masterminds marketing.
Chinese consumers were entering in droves past a life-size plastic Ronald
McDonald clown and jockeying for "extra value" meals that Shanghai-born Zhang
offered at a discount. Like Coloradans bullish on China, Zhang said he's bullish
on economic benefits -- not Western ideals -- that come from American
connections.
"American people sometimes talk about freedom. But Chinese people just want to
earn more money."
On Friday, Denver Mayor Wellington Webb and a 47-member Colorado business
delegation, along with dozens of Chinese hosts and prospective partners,
celebrated these multiplying moneymaking connections. Up six floors from the
street where Zhang sells Big Macs and fries, Webb and crew ceremonially opened
Denver's office, the first U.S. city trade office in China. In a television
interview broadcast to 200 million Chinese viewers, Webb urged businesspeople
interested in America to "make sure that Colorado is one of the places you
visit." He then stood on a stage holding scissors and snipped a red ribbon held
by 14 girls in red dresses. He raised a glass of wine and toasted to closer
U.S.-Chinese relations. He publicly pitched a direct China-Denver flight that
city officials lobbied for this week.
Denver promotional videos flashed on reception hall television screens. Shanghai
Mayor Xu Kuangdi hosted Webb for dinner and an evening walk by brightly lit
office towers along the Yangtze River.
The purpose of all this was paving the way for Colorado companies to expand into
China -- selling goods and services here or enlisting low-wage workers like
Zhang. Webb says tapping China (population, 1.3 billion) will help ensure
economic growth in Denver.
And so far the mayor hasn't deviated from that theme to raise concerns with
Chinese leaders about what U.S. officials describe as China's worsening human
rights record.
"The federal government's got to do that," Webb said. "My goal is to enhance our
business relationships. That helps our local economy." But just as some
Coloradans question whether unbridled commercial expansion is healthy, so some
Chinese workers have doubts.
Those facing layoffs at former state-run factories demonstrate regularly. And
beyond the posh hotel lobbies and airport VIP chambers where business courtships
play out, you can glimpse a hard side of today's booming commerce.
Workers in uniforms weld, lift, shovel, and polish all around on emerging
shopping centers and skyscrapers. The workers sleep in crowded cement-block dorm
rooms in shadows of shiny new buildings and generally earn far less than the
$500 a month that McDonald's pays Zhang. No collective bargaining is allowed.
Security guards monitor workers on the job and in dorms.
China's minister of construction, Yu Zhengsheng, told Webb in a meeting this
week that China's widening rich-poor income gap is a problem. Yu spoke of
workers fleeing barren villages to seek work in cities who then "don't find
opportunities to work there either."
Yet the view of many here is that opening China to more business with companies
from cities such as Denver offers the best hope for everyone.
As Zhang sat smoking at McDonald's, he watched Denver businessman Jim Rivas, who
seeks asbestos-removal contracts in China, walking confidently toward the new
Denver office.
"They pay us," Zhang said of the foreigners. "We do some work for them. Why
not?" A thin man in a light blue uniform silently swept cigarette butts from the
walkway. True, this Chinese worker still can't afford regular "extra value"
McDonald's meals, Zhang acknowledged, "but his children may have a better life."
Dreams for the future
Zhang himself hopes to own a restaurant someday. Not a McDonald's. He envisions
a small, traditional Chinese place.
"Maybe in Denver," he suggested, assuming as many people there as here in
Shanghai would be interested in his restaurant.
"Maybe in 20 years, when I am 48."
By Bruce Finley
To see more of The Denver Post, or to subscribe to the newspaper, go to http://www.denverpost.com
(c) 2001, The Denver Post. Distributed by Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News.
Shake Shake Shake. Shake Shake Shake, Shake your booday
McDonald's Sees Profits in Simplified Products, Promotions
Apr 02, 2001 (Chicago Tribune - Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News via COMTEX)
-- Think there are too many sandwiches and sizes to choose from on McDonald's
menu? Too many promotions? Too much clutter in its restaurants?
If you do, you're not alone: So, apparently, does McDonald's Corp.
Acknowledging that its business is too complex, a high-level task force at the
Oak Brook-based fast-food giant is urging drastic changes in the way McDonald's
operates as part of a plan to double its U.S. business during the next five
years.
Detailed in an internal five-year plan obtained by the Tribune, the task force
recommends changing everything from how many sizes of drinks customers can order
to reducing promotional material and signs in the restaurants.
The goal, according to more than one McDonald's source, is an aggressive move to
sharply increase the average store's sales by focusing customer attention more
on core products.
It is believed to be the company's first detailed five-year plan. Sources say
that McDonald's typically wouldn't plan beyond two years.
McDonald's didn't respond when asked to comment on the report, which was first
unveiled to staff in January.
The overarching goal, according to the plan, is to simplify the operation at all
levels so that consumers are less likely to be confused or bombarded with
promotions when they walk into a McDonald's. The chain also wants customers to
spend more.
Although McDonald's just expanded its menu with a "New Tastes" system of
rotating options, one of the report's recommendations is testing a "consolidated
core menu." It suggests eliminating some menu items, like apple bran muffins and
strawberry sundaes, and reducing the number of sizes offered for fries and
drinks.
The proposal also suggests a test to replace its cookies with fresh-baked ones.
The company also plans to reduce the number of game promotions and premium
giveaways as part of its "food as co-star transition." The company may also
introduce a frequent buyers program, called "McRewards."
The report says that the number of messages its customers are hit with in the
stores is "getting worse." It found the number of messages presented to
consumers soared 112 percent from 1997 to 1999, but a test in a store with far
fewer messages resulted in higher sales and average checks.
Also top of mind in the report is how to slash high turnover costs. Sources
estimate that some restaurants experience 100 percent turnover in six months.
Among the proposals to retain staff, the report urges substantially improved pay
for managers and upgraded benefits for crew members, including free meals rather
than half-priced ones. The switch to free meals is estimated to cost each store
roughly $2,400 a year.
But McDonald's estimates turnover costs are $400 for a part-time crew member and
$8,000 for a management trainee. The company estimates that a 10 percentage
point drop in turnover is worth $1,500 to $2,500 per restaurant, depending on
its crew size.
Perhaps the costliest proposal calls for implementing a new, enhanced computer
system in its restaurants. It would cost an estimated $38 million to $145
million to change by 2005, depending on the system.
By Jim Kirk
To see more of the Chicago Tribune, or to subscribe to the newspaper, go to http://www.chicago.tribune.com/
(c) 2001, Chicago Tribune. Distributed by Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News.
McDonald's to go back to basics
OAK BROOK, Ill., Apr 02, 2001 (United Press International via COMTEX) --
Fast-food giant McDonald's reportedly is planning a return to its roots, dumping
most of the 36 items and size options in favor of its core menu, in a return to
simplicity it hopes will raise revenues. McDonald's plan was obtained by
Advertising Age.
Copyright 2001 by United Press International.
ONEBGG is that fella who stuck his head in the Corner Bar and decided to come back later. We have been friends for 11 years now.
What type of dancing would you like? I'm up for just about everything Except that there forbidden dance. My wife just wouldn't understand our hot sweaty bodies rubbing all over each other... also I don't know If Pre's heart could take it. ;O)
Was somebody suffering from the blues when they posted these selections?...
Nothing compares 2 U - Sinead O'Conner
It's been seven hours and fifteen days
Since U took your love away
I go out every night and sleep all day
Since u took your love away
Since u been gone I can do whatever I want
I can see whomever I choose
I can eat my dinner in a fancy restaurant
But nothing
I said nothing can take away these blues
'cos nothing compares
Nothing compares 2 U
It's been so lonely without U here
Like a bird without a song
Nothing can stop these lonely tears from falling
Tell me baby were did I go wrong
I could put my arms around every boy I see
But they'd only remind me of you
I went to the doctor guess what he told me
Guess what he told me
He said girl U better have fun
No matter what U do
But he's a fool
'cos nothing compares
Nothing compares 2 U
All the flowers that u planted mama
In the back yard
All died when u went away
I know that living with U baby was sometimes hard
But I'm willing to give it another try
'cos nothing compares
Nothing compares 2 U
I'm doing wonderful. Thank you very much. St Louis sounds like very interesting place to bee. I have an aunt that lives there. Have no clue as to where, Just St Louis.
Yeah I’ve been busy today myself. My securities were going nuts today and I have been racking my brain trying to figure out what book to buy OGB’s wife for her birthday.For this last Christmas, She painted me this beautiful picture of a waterfall on MT. Hood that OBG and I love to go visit.
Thought I’d take some time away from the work and spin a few on the box.
Shot please.
Want to dance?
This one is damn good who put this here?.....
http://chooser.mp3.com/cgi-bin/play/play.cgi/AAIBQtCtCwDABG5vcm1QBAAAAFJIHwIAUQEAAABDvPTEOkBkum8OT_1...
I feel so alone....Lets see whats on the Jukebox
http://search.borders.com/fcgi-bin/hurlpnm?~hh-473645/0016815_0101_00_0002.ra
Hey Everybody. Give a shout out to MRS OBG. It will be her birthday tomorrow.
Hi Carolyn.
JOKE OF THE DAY: Fly In My Guinness
An Irishman, an Englishman and a Scotsman go into a pub and each order a pint of Guinness. Just as the bartender hands them over, three flies buzz down and land in each of the pints.
The Englishman looks disgusted, pushes his pint away and demands another pint. The Scotsman picks out the fly, shrugs, and takes a long swallow. The Irishman reaches into the glass, pinches the fly between his fingers and shakes him while yelling, "Spit it out, ya *******! Spit it out!"