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Somebody needs to take out the remainder of the 0006's and lets get to the 0007's. Then start buying at the ask or 0007 and see what happens. When people get back from lunch and it is up and trading picking up, we may have something for this afternoon.
It is possible. Regardless, we need volume and buys on the ask.
I would like to see at least 50 million traded today. We need to
push through 0006 and 0007 and get this thing moving. There is no
doubt in my mind that there are those who are purposefully keeping
the price down for their own agenda. Let's face it. We all know there
is dilution. The company needs money short-term. Dilution and fears of it play into the hands of those who are against sfor. The very best
thing that can happen is for longs and believers to buy like crazy here and get the price up. Higher prices means less shares issued by
the company in raising money. In the long term, 3 or 4 billion shares
outstanding will not KILL a great return but I don't think that many
have to be issued. Unless everyone is paralyzed by fear and stops buying, we should be ok by mid-year 2014. IMO, it is important to drive through this triple zero area though, NOW. It does not take that
many dollars to do it. This is a sub-penny. Just a handful of us can
make a huge difference and get this thing started.
We need to always buy at the ask price with this stock. Don't sit on a 0005 now or on a 0006 when we move up to 0007 ask. If you want shares,buy the ask and the sooner we take them out it will move up another tick. Once demand kicks in, and there are not huge shares available on the ask, the price will move up quickly. One reason the ask is so unresponsive is due to the fact that there are so many
bid-sitters. It is only 0001. But the darn ask for pete sakes.
We need to take out the remaining 0006's and get to the 0007's and
see how many of those to deal with and start building up the bid at
0006.
FINALLY. Got a number besides 10,000 on the ask. Looks like 8 miilion
on ask and 83 million on bid. Let's see if buys will reduce the ask quantity and how long it takes to knock out the 0006's and move to 0007's. And how many do we have at 0007? Yesterday it was 40 million.
I know this has been asked before but I seem to have missed
the answer. Over 6 million traded at 0006 and the ask shows only
10,000 available. Why doesn't the ask price reflect the true number
of shares available at that price? It is just sitting at 10,000 and
does not change. Why is that?
Someone put order in to buy 1 million at .0007 and
let's see what happens
Bid support at 0006 building. Was 63,000,000 at 0005.
Would love to see someone slap ask for 2 million and see
what happens. Also, what is available at 0008,0009,001,0011
and 0012?
Could not look better.
Here is my view at present. I think we are very close to having
another run. Whoever said they may take out the 5's can forget it.
Ain't happening. This is my pet theory but I think that scotlandrules
and ralph4 and ilk being absent lately, is telling. They have completed this phase of their job, namely to keep price from appreciating and promote shaking of shares from weak hands. The fact
that they are tuned down if not missing entirely, tells me it is close
to time to run. WARNING. It will be tempting to sell higher up at some
point during this run but my advice is to not sell more than 20% of your holdings. After they run it down, buy back more shares than you sold. If you limit selling to no more than 20% it will make it more
orderly when they try to take it back down and much more difficult for
the MM's. Like OT says, make them come to us. The Longs should be in
control of sfor not the MM's. And always remember the Big Picture. Big
payday later on and ACCUMULATION mode now and up to .005 at least.
Amen Bro!
I totally agree. And I will even go a step further. There is
no way that I will EVER allow manipulators or crooks to make one
cent of profit on the shares that I hold unless they are willing
to buy them from me at a cost higher than what I paid for them. If
that is the case, then more power to them. But if they think they
can pry my shares loose by manipulating them down with all their
tricks they are wasting their time. I'd rather lose all my investment
and the company go belly up than for a manipulator to unfairly make
money at my expense. HOWEVER, I believe in the company and I am in
Accumulation mode. I will take advantage of the lower prices over time
so these manipulator are helping me out too. I just hate for those that fall to their strategies lose a significant part of their investment when it was totally unnecessary.
You are right on the money. Why are there so many crazy
people who are worried about share structure? It does not
matter! This is a Lotto pick for Jackpot as you stated.
Except odds here are extremely good that you will win.
Let's face it. For Microsoft, or IBM, or Google, or ATT
or Verizon etc.etc.etc. is this worth a billion dollars?
You are dang right it is, in a 400 billion dollar industry
with mega hacking problems that we have technology to solve.
PATENTED!
So what if all shares are issued and the outstanding is 5 billion.
A billion dollar buyout would be worth .20 a share. Do the math
folks. All you need is shares. Everyone should be buying like there
was no tomorrow. 50 million shares and you are a millionaire.
Hiphop, I agree with practically everything you say on almost
every post. You are a realist and what you usually say is hard
to refute. It is really odd to me though how much time is spent
on going over the financials of sfor. We all know they stink.
That is why it is a sub-penny. You and almost every one on this
forum miss the whole point. Forget the past performance and forget
the current numbers. They are meaningless. You need to focus on
only one thing. They are in the hottest industry of the next few
years and most important one imo, with key patents that solve
problems that EVERYONE faces. They will collect significant sums
in patent infringements and royalties if they stay in business but
most likely will be bought out. EVERYONE should take a speculative
position and sit on it for this reason. How much do you invest?
At prices under .0015, everyone should own 10,000,000 shares. If
you cannot buy them now you accumulate as prices rise. I would
hope to have a minimum of 5,000,000 shares.
200 to 600 percent gains on next run depending on where buys are
located. My average cost is 00098 and would have liked to have bought 0006s but no powder. 0004 and 0005 hard to get IMO .
Looking real good to me. Should be easy to take 0006's out now and then start on 0007's. Would be nice to close up at 0008 or 0009 before
official news of patent being ISSUED tomorrow. Lot's of good stuff going on that will lead to revenues. I have always said mid-2014 before excitement. I am not unhappy with the pace of things at all. No matter how you cut it, this is not a Typical Sub-penny stock. Patience and Accumulation gentleman.
Dropped from 10 million to 6 million on ask at 0006 on no trades.
75 million on bid at 0005. If we can take out the 0006 and 0007's the last hour and then close at 0008 up a tick for the day it would be huge. Would mark today as THE BOTTOM Imo.
72,000,000 bid at 0005. Once opinion on trend changes, there is plenty of demand at higher price levels. In my opinion, short-term
you will see a huge run up unexpectedly just like before and then
many bail out like before. If enough people refrain from getting so greedy, and keep a large portion of their shares, the correction will be much shorter and another run will occur taking us to .005 area.
Anyone who sells in the triple 000's is out of their mind.
EVERYONE with the right mind, should be buying all they can get
now at these prices. So there is no doubt, the smart one here is
$BL$. There could be some equally as smart but just don't have the means.
This is the absolute bottom. When you see a large swing in emotion
from many of those who have previously been bullish, that's it. This
is the PERFECT time to buy. I hold to my thinking that by mid-year
2014, sfor will be trading for over .01.
IN my opinion, Totally ABSURD!
Someone needs to take out the 0007's and then $BL$ can take out the 0008's and 0009's and we can get this thing back to 001.
OT, I am like $BL$ in that I have the time. Unlike him in that
I don't have the powder at least not immediate powder. So I will
just add each month a specific amount and buy whatever number of shares it buys. My goal was originally 5,000,000 shares but based on the DD and events of the last two months, I am raising the goal to
15,000,000 shares. If what you say is true, I might just get my shares. One thing is certain, the next quarterly meeting will really be a lot of fun.
There is not anything wrong with the price action as I see it.
There is very little selling, just no buying. Far too many here
want to put their money up and then make a killing over night. It
just does not work that way if you want to make a REAL killing. Get
out of the flipping business and become an investor in the company.
What is going to happen is when the volume picks up, this thing is going right up like it did when the patent news came out except
hopefully not as fast. But it will trend up nicely, IMO. All we need
is buying and consistent buying. It is way too early for the masses.
They don't even know about it. In time, they will because it will be prime news. If we cut out the flipping, it will go up regularly and slowly but UP and will please many. A real explosive pop will occur
when the big news comes out. What is that? I can only guess but what
I am anticipating is an announcement that a major telecom company has signed on with us to offer our security on all their mobile devices. I could be totally off base here but this type of news is what will
bring in the tremendous buying from new buyers.
You are only partially correct. It is a penny stock. You
do buy low and sell High. However, it is not the same as
all other penny stocks. There are huge differences. And
the result is that sfor has significant value that is not
reflected in the current stock price. It will be eventually.
So you can't treat it like an ordinary penny stock or you will
not reap the rewards. So be careful where you sell.
Company is making great progress. sfor stock price is not.
They will (mm's)will shake the tree till all the fruit falls
that they can harvest. Then they will let it grow. Simple
as that. Stay long and strong till no more can be shaken.
As you have funds available, take advantage of these low prices.
There is manipulation going on for sure. There are those who want to create selling at lower prices. I think there are FAR too many shareholders who KNOW the real value of what they hold and will not sell, period. Let the MM's and other play their games. It is useless.
I am just hoping that there are plenty who get caught with major short positions when this thing takes off and they lose their shirts.
Would serve them right. The only way they get off the hook is for longs to sell. DON'T BE INFLUENCED BY THESE GAMES THEY PLAY.
News is posted on Ameritrade also.
We see we are back to ask at 0009. Too many on 001 that discourages buying so the traders lower their sells to 0009 thus moving up ask
at 0009 to 2.5 million when they were taken out. They don't make as much profit but they get out. These are some who bought at 0007 and 0008. Good news is the 001's will reduce as they are moved to 0009.
Keep on buying the 0009's and lets see what size is when we go back to 001. This is a process and we just have to work through it. As the long and strong accumulate shares and HOLD, this process will become shorter and shorter to overcome and the price will begin to move up a lot faster.
The problem is that because this is a sub-penny, people buy millions of shares and plan on dumping after a couple of ticks and pocket the profits. It is a trading strategy. They wait for it to drop and then repeat. We have to break that cycle. The way to do it is buy the ask and then keep on buying as the ask moves up. Don't give these people the chance to reload at lower prices and then set selling price on the ask a few ticks away. Make them buy back at HIGHER prices than they sold at or not buy back at all. Sfor is not a typical sub-penny and will go MUCH higher as more new people come in and buy as a long-term investment. So we need to start knocking away at the 001's and when they are gone same for 0012's etc.
Somebody take out remaining 240k 0009.
Excellent post. I am glad that you see the real significance of this
stock. The real big rewards are indeed in the future. Therefore you
accumulate by adding on downturns. You don't flip it. You keep it and add more. The day will come when the flipper flip and will not get back in because the price is not coming back to them. Then they will not pay "that" much for it. And they will miss the boat. It's called human nature.
You are exactly right. In this case, traders have met the enemy and it is
themselves. They have to lose sub-penny mentality for this sub-penny because it is the rare home run play. You accumulate and hold long-term.
They can trade and make good profit or they can accumulate and hold and make a small or large fortune depending on their commitment.
It has been explained multiple times why the authorized was increased. Due he drop in price to 0004 it became necessary to increase the authorized for SEC legal requirements. These are authorized not issued and
likely will never be issued. Why all the fuss?
Beats me what happened. Once again, use common sense and
logic. We are at the bottom, period. We just got a major
patent. We know 3rd quarter will look great compared to
second quarter, for whatever reason. We have already seen
what can happen to the price on very good news. +600% in
a day at one point. ALL WE NEED IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF GOOD
NEWS ON THE LAWSUITS FROM THE ATTORNEYS AND THIS SHOULD
BLAST OFF. And a PR should come on that at ANY TIME. If
you aren't in, you don't win. End of story.
I have never seen a SCAM company that FILES regular and AUDITED reports on time, is accessible to the shareholder, AND is represented by a
TOP LAW FIRM protecting their PATENTS. NEVER.
You have asked that question several times on this board. I am curious.
How many companies have you received that are as good or better than sfor?
Outstanding post OT. This fact alone coupled with the almost zero price of the stock at the current time should have investors buying sfor by the millions until they can't buy millions due to price rises. How often does one get an opportunity to accumulate a million shares of anything? And sfor is a real company with real patents with a top law firm representing them in an industry that will require this technology by the billions.
I say again: Potential Home Run stock. Load the boat right NOW while it is easy to do so and you don't have to break the bank.
Very nice trading so far IMO. If we get continued buying we will
eat through the 0008's with no problem. Already down from 23 to 18
million on ask side. Start trading in the green and we should be
ready for a nice run later in the week, starting as early as tomorrow.
I remain convinced that buying in the triple zeros is past history. If
you want some at that price, you better buy today.
How many shares is too many? It is too many if you have more money
invested in it than you are willing to lose. So that varies among individuals. I don't have enough, yet and may not get enough because
I think last week was the last week you will be able to buy in the
tripple zeros. I'll tell you what I am expecting and perhaps it will
make you feel better. But this is just my opinion and means nothing
and I don't have a crystal ball, however, it is what I am expecting.
By mid-year 2014, you will see .015 and after a correction, by the end
of the year you will see .03 AND if there is really good news and it gets hot, you could see .05 before it cools off. I found sfor years ago and got in and lost some money, then forgot about it until I rediscovered it
again at the end of the summer and purchased again. Before I knew it I was down 80% but not pissed off. Soon thereafter, it was 600% and I had trippled my money but did not sell. I just bought more and now am down
18% overall. I am not pissed off now either. In fact, I consider it very
fortunate that I was able to buy in the 000's last week. This is not a normal sub-penny and really is a potential home run. Be patient and you will be rewarded. IMO.
People put way to much emphasis on Mark Kay and his ability to do things to make the stock price improve. He is running the company and doing the things to make it successful in the long term. He can't tell you if the price is going to double in the next month any more than you and I can. The price moves in the long run based on supply and demand for the stock. In the short-run MM's can manipulate the hell out of it to accomplish their own objectives and especially in a thin market. And most focus on short-term unfortunately. The real question to ask about sfor is this: "do you think it can be a significant player in the cyber-security industry in the long-term?" If the answer is yes, you accumulate as many shares as you can for as long as you can. And you realize at today's prices it is a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to accumulate. Eventually, you will be buying in the pennies and will not get nearly as many shares. Under this scenario, you will become extremely rich at some point in the future. On the other hand, if the answer is no, you focus on the short-term meaning up to 15 months. You still should be in heavy accumulation mode now at these prices. You pick a target price beyond which you will no longer accumulate shares and you sell at a target price that you have pre-set. Or, you could just trade it short term as many do. My personal preference is to accumulate long-term because I think it will be a major player long-term due to the technology and the patents. This is the first inning of the game and there will be bumps along the way. If you don't panic and sell too early you will be greatly rewarded in my view. Bumps are just an opportunity to get many more shares. You are the ultimate winner. If everyone would choose a strategy and stick to it faithfully, this thing will take off and you will have peace and be unaffected by the basher crap. Ignore it and wait for a very nice day ahead in which you will be glad you owned this crazy sub-penny that was not like any other. At that time, you can pat yourself on the back for seeing it when so many missed it.