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Its a good thing I did not wait for Scotland's .01 to start buying.
I am up 67% and that means I have made up 100% of my sfor losses from last year. I am sticking to my plan of buying shares up to .15 and accumulating as many as possible. I really was hoping I could have bought more at .035 or even lower but not happening. The base is between .04-.05. What I bought under .04 was a gift. I don't think many understand what the real opportunity is in sfor. The reverse split bailed me out because I am now able to buy shares knowing there is a potential huge gain in store. THERE ARE LESS THAN 6 MILLION SHARES OUTSTANDING now where before it was close to 6 billion. If you cannot figure out what that mean, there is no hope for you. This is a POTENTIAL home run play. Load up now and take your chances. If you ain't in you can't win. PERIOD. Ignore the scotland's of the world or you will never get in and you might miss the boat. Only invest what you can afford to lose. This is a lottery ticket but much greater odds of winning than playing at Vegas or at your favorite casino.
Hip, you are a very sharp guy or gal and I don't disagree with any of your facts. You are on the money in fact but where we differ is
the future outlook. You don't even see the glass half-full but completely empty. I see the glass half-full. You will see substantial dollars from legal pursuits AND you will see several large enterprise customers as you put it. It is inevitable. It's a huge market and it is still in its infancy. SFOR has the goods. The biggest hurdle has been overcome and that was just to hang around long enough without folding. I really don't see how you can keep on the sidelines at this point and like me, should be accumulating at these prices. Build a sizeable position which you can do now and probably even at a lower price for a while. But not much lower and not much longer, IMO.
I think you are exactly right and that the monies received from legal pursuits will be substantial. You would not have a law firm the caliber of Blank Rome working with a scam penny stock in a million years if it were not the real deal. My personal opinion is that you will have many investors kicking themselves all over the place for not getting in while the price is at almost zero. Right now is the window of opportunity. It will close quickly at some point and there is no way to tell when. I think the thing to do is to invest x dollars on a regular basis up to your max price. I have a significant amount of my shares between .043 and .07. I am willing to buy all the way up to .15. Anything under .043 is gravy- a real gift. If I get any at .01 like the scott says will happen this week, I will consider it hitting the lottery. IMO.
Excellet post Stargazer. I agree with every point you make. This board needs more posters like you who are objective, logical and unemotional. The only thing I would add is that very few stocks give an average investor a chance to make a small fortune. Strikeforce does provide that opportunity as everything is in place from share structure to product mix that is patented in a fast growing industry that will need what the company provides. That being said, it doesn't mean a fortune will be made but IT IS POSSIBLE. That is all you can ask for. But you have to be in to win and you need a significant position. IMO
If all you have is old shares that were reversed split, you have next to nothing. You have probably lost 99% of your investment. The old shares are now worth 1/3 of .0001. The current price could increase 10 fold and that would only be equivalent to .001 pre-split shares. At .001 you are likely still down 50-90% depending on your cost basis. The ONLY way to recoup money on pre-split shares is to purchase post-split shares. PERIOD. And then you could be throwing more good money down a rat hole. I say could be. You could also recoup all your losses and make a significant sum as well. Pretty interesting isn't it? I think 98% of the sfor owners will end up losing 90% or more of their total investment while 2% will make significant gains in thousands of percent. Why? Because they invested the majority of their investment at the right time and price. Most cannot do that because they are far too emotional. It is just how human nature works. ALL IN MY OPINION OF COURSE.
I really don't know that Bull. My gut feeling is they will survive and make it but you could be just as easily right. I do believe they will have at least one if not two good runs this year though whether they make it or not. IF we only knew where the base was for the run we would be in fat city. But there is no way to tell and a run in this stock is fast and short-lived. I have already started accumulating and am pleased with my position. I am assuming the base is between .04 and .05. Thus the accumulation for me. If I am right, now is the time to be buying before everyone wakes up. Some believe it will base in the .000's. I think hip said .004-.005 or someone did. I just don't believe it because of the low shares outstanding and at these levels there will be demand coming due to the low price. Anything out of the company at all, and we really should be ok at holding close to these levels. And as a side note, i think the 1;1500 REVERSE split was the best thing that could have happened to make this a real home run play, potentially.
I am definitely NOT an insider. Don't know how it is going to turn out either. I try to look at things objectively as much as possible. There are very few stocks where you can have a large position for few dollars invested and that have 6 million or so shares outstanding at the current time and in an industry that is
going to grow rapidly. Who knows what will happen but it is definitely a POTENTIAL home run play. And if it does come in, whenever it does, I am going to be there because I am in. YOU CAN'T WIN IF YOU AINT IN,MY OLE PAPPY USED TO SAY.
We shall see. I have always been very consistent in my belief about one thing and that is that 2014 is the year we REALLY know if SFOR is ever going to amount to anything. Right now I would say its 50-50 for a long-term successful and growing business. IF you buy in for a quick profit on a run, and buy at the right price, I'd say its 95% certain you will make money. I'd bet you a steak dinner that there is going to be a run or run(s) sometime this year. The real questions become,what is your average price in and when do you start buying? I think .000's is a very low probability just because you will have buying and demand at low prices because there is only 5 or 6 million outstanding. Dilution is not a real problem anytime
soon. IMO.
Buy volume is 4 times sell volume today on higher than average volume. I think the .043-.05 range is the base from which the next run will occur. Start loading the boat right here. IF i am mistaken just do what I do-buy even more at the lower price and say thank you.
At .45 I will have a profit in sfor and that is in my total investment from the beginning. And a good profit too. The reason
being that the majority of my shares were post split and after a steep drop in price. (equivalent of buying old stock at less than 1/2 of .0001)This is not rocket science. We are in such a better position today than before because there are less than 10 million shares outstanding. I consider it a led pipe cinch that it will have run(s) going forward. If I were a trader which I am not, I would look at .45 as very doable. I am in not to trade, but to hit a Home Run. THIS IS A SWING FOR THE FENCE STOCK. You buy in at a good price and continue to accumulate and build your position and wait for the fireworks. Make your mind up in advance how much you are willing to lose and don't put anymore in that that. In my opinion, you can add and accumulate at any price under .15 and f you wait, you will make a profit. Again, my opinion.
The good news if there is any in all the negativity is that the price is kept down and driven lower by all the skeptics who abound which gives anybody a chance to build a large position over time with very little money. Why is that important? Because if it does hit eventually, you can make a ton of money. The key word is IF.
Nobody got sucked in to this stock. Everyone decided to buy it on their own initiative and if they lose it is there own mistake.
Some will lose 100% and some will make 600%-5000%. It just depends when you bought and when you sold or when you buy and when you sell. I am confident it will have a run this year but the question is from what point?
Any comments on the SC 13G filed?
Why would they invest in a dead company? (They would not) They expect to get a good return. I would like to ask the board a question. Last year, when the encryption patent was announced, we had a 600% run in one day if you recall. Let's assume at the very worse case, we get a serious dead cat bounce on some PR or PR's, what kind of run do you think is possible with the outstanding shares so low as it is now?
Well, I could not be happier. I got all my shares I wanted today
at prices lower than what I had planned on paying several months
ago. Finally, I have the lottery ticket that can make me huge money if it hits. I have equivalent to 30,486,000 old shares which is six times what I have ever owned. That's it for me. Now I will just let it play out. I read this morning that there are as many mobile phones on the planet as there are people. All we need is for the right things to happen. Will they? There is no way of knowing. But I do know one thing: I like the fact that there are only 4.9 million shares outstanding. They cannot dilute it enough to hurt me before I know if it works out or not. Everyone should take this one fact to the bank: IF YOU AINT IN, YOU CAN'T WIN!
The price action since the reverse is exactly what we should have expected as 99.9% of reverse split stocks drop after the reverse split. The stock is getting very, very interesting. What we want to see is what is going on in the company that relates to growth in revenue from operations. IMO, there will be millions at some point from the legal battles. They will never say anything about that for obvious reasons and it could be this year when it starts paying off but no guarantee on that. What we need to happen is to see something that indicates the products are gaining some traction in the cyber-security arena that leads to revenue and a significant move toward
becoming cash flow positive. This is what it has always been: a great lottery ticket. At some point, one will reach a point where they have to decide to load up or not based on their perception of risk:reward value or to write it off and forget it as the perception it is a totally lost cause. IMO you will know the right move THIS YEAR.
Very nice buying today. I am pleased with the way the price is holding up after the reverse split. It is hard to say how the 4th quarter numbers will affect the price but if they do cause it to correct, it will be a great buying opportunity. This stock will have another run or runs. This time it may hold unlike last year's one day wonder. The reason is the share structure is sound now and the company will be adding revenue from Mobil contracts. On a run like last fall, I look for $5 a share as an objective. That is equivalent to .0035 pre-split.
Ask me in 12 months and I will tell you if you are right or not.
It is impossible to say now. You need to be totally objective and watch what is going on NOW not what happened in the last 12 months.
I am betting that you are 100% wrong in your assumption. There will be an opportunity THIS YEAR for a huge return in sford. That is my opinion.
My guess would be because 4th quarter results was less than stellar meaning no improvement in sales revenue from previous quarters.You would have thought if the news was great that there would have been a release prior to the reverse split. I am not surprised and nobody else who has followed sfor should be either. The real catalyst for growth in revenue is in Mobile and that app was not even introduced until 2014. There should also be significant revenue from legal efforts but that takes time as has been pointed out by others. I would think there is a chance for over a million dollars recovered from WhiteSky this year. It is certainly possible for the release of 4th quarter to drag the price down from here and start the reverse split dive as so many have alluded to. If that were to happen, it would be a GREAT BUYING OPPORTUNITY, IMO.
You have great insight. I could not agree with you more. The trouble is most people are not investors and can't think outside the box. Who in there right mind would sell at these levels or even be unhappy about the reverse split? It is by far the best thing that could happen to them. With the share structure now, there is a real chance for this stock to go places and make many a ton of money. This very well could be one of those rare reverse split stocks that can make you a fortune like my old lawyer friend told me about
40 years ago. The key is to Watch, Analyze Objectively, and if solid, Load the Boat.
Well his time is up if he is not legit. Now is the time to see actual sales growth AND revenue that will hit the balance sheet. You will know one way or the other by the end of this year. Not necessarily in the stock price but in the balance sheet. We should have real earnings and this should function like a business that is
going somewhere. At some point we should get some nice money from the lawsuits as addition to operating revenues. This will all be reflected in the bottom line. I am optimistic but I am also a realist. This is and has always been a lottery ticket. Ask me in 9 months and I will tell you if I can cash it in or not.
The reverse split is a much needed event and will allow the company earnings to significantly affect the stock price going forward. I expect revenue growth and cash positive cash flow this year. With just a little over 4 million outstanding, the chance of a meaningful upward move in share price is much improved. This is the week we will see if I am right or not on a pre-split run up to .0007 or about that. It will take a significant news event to make that happen and I believe that is exactly what will happen. The speculator can buy now at .0002 and .0003 and have the potential to double or triple their money in a few days time. If no move, just hold on for reverse split. Sell or buy more after the split.
If you bought at .0002, why settle for the lowest profit possible?
You can always sell at .0002 and lose only commission cost. Worth the risk to hold and sell if it runs prior to reverse split. I would have not settled for anything less than .0004 and would have waited for .0005-.0007 to sell. IMO, 50-50 chance of doing that early next week.
I still believe at least 50-50 chance stock will reverse split
next week at .0007 or higher. My guess and that is all it is, it will be at close Tuesday.
Clearly, the price is being manipulated to encourage dumping and to allow parties to acquire said stock at the lowest possible prices.
Just note the use of 100 shares constantly AGAIN. There should be some way to stop such obvious manipulation.
Very good post. Most people are clueless and just look at sfor as
a typcial penney stock. (scam) They do no realize what the company does and what its future will look like but rather are locked in a box of crap or they can't see the forest for the trees. These people will dump the stock on news as they are doing today totally unaware of the future events that will occur that will spell success for the oompany. Most of today's speculators will lose 95% of their money or more because they are short sited. We will just have to wait until later today to see if there are any investors or not after the dumping stocks. Just remember, somebody is buying what is being dumped. The price will rise when the dumpers either go away, exhaust themselves, or wise up.
I think you are right.
Everything looks really good now. Mostly buying on Friday and today is virtually 99% buying. NO SELLING All we need is HEAVY VOLUME for several days starting tomorrow this thing will run prior to reverse split which is ideal. Depending on PR(s) could run substantially to between .001 and .0015 in my opinion.
You are right on the money This company has the opportunity to be a huge money maker for many after the reverse split. The key is growth in revenue and earnings. It will come, in my opinion. Still, possible for price decline after the reverse split as this is common with reverse split stocks. Just watch what the company is doing and how it performs, then start accumulating more on weakness if the progress in growth and earnings outlook calls for it. It is possible to make significant profits on some reverse split stocks. Is sfor one of them? We shall see.
You absolutely understand how to make good money in this stock.
Your plan is exactly the right thing to do. I am curious though.
What is your price for partial sale if it reaches it?
Virtually all buys today and buying volume is about 2.5 times selling volume. Only 39,000,000 on ask. Can easily run through that
today and close at .0002-.0003 if we get some buying in the last two hours of market. We shall see. Would be really nice to close at .0003 going into Monday. Next week is going to be the week of the move before the Reverse Split, IMO.
Just bought some more at Ameritrade. No Problem. If I had a broker that refused to let me buy, I know what I would do. SO LONG BUDDY!
There is meat on the bone, we just don't know it yet. But I SUSPECT we will know it very soon. As far as making stockholders money, I believe it will make many stockholders a great deal of money but only after the reverse split and the share structure is changed so that current and future revenue growth is meaningful to the share price. To make a killing, it will more than likely take additional buying after the reverse split and after the price declines further.
It is impossible to know how much it will decline or even if it will because we do not know the "meat on the bone stuff" yet and quickly it is going to be reflected on the income statement and balance sheet. In an ideal world, you buy as much as you can NOW at .0002-.0003 and sell between .0007 and .0015 before the reverse split then wait until the decline after the reverse split, and LOAD THE BOAT. IMO, those people will make a Ton.
Earliest reverse split can happen is March 17th. I consider it virtually certain that we will have a run in this before the reverse split takes place. Ask is not accurate picture of reality imo. MM's trying to pry shares loose for their gain. Now is the time for the little guy to load up on this. I will be very surprised if we don't run to at least .0007. The hardest decision will be when to sell or if you hold and go through the reverse split.
Strong possibility I would think.
Why would anybody have a sell order in at .0003 at this point and risk selling at .0005+ in case of PR that would cause a run prior to reverse split? Especially when heavy buying today and .0002-.0003 now. No guts and no brains. IMO
This is fascinating. I believe there is a chance that
MM's are in deep trouble. I saw this once before with
another stock called cmkx diamonds. There was a huge
naked short problem. cmkx was not a real company, however
and they got away with it. Strikeforce is a REAL company
and it is possible that you are going to see some fireworks.
What we need is for investors to step up and start buying
this thing in millions of share lots and do it religiously.
Will it happen? I doubt it but it sure would be alot of fun
to watch. Not to mention, immensely profitable to you and me.
Those who have thrown in the towel the last few days will have great pain very soon, IMO.
If I were you, I would cancel the sell order at .0005. It is going higher than that. The train is fixing to leave the station. Anyone
not on, better buy their ticket today, IMO.
One final comment. I believe we have seen all the
dilution for now. Remember, somebody bought all
those shares at .0002 and they are not going to be
selling them. With the dilution and reverse split we
have also more than likely cleaned out all the longs
who bit the dust and threw in the towel. So in my view,
there are not many sellers left. I think there is still
a possibility we will see a nice run before the reverse
split and I also continue to think a post-split price of
$1.05 or more is attainable. Sorry, Hip. Of course you
could be totally right, but I would not bet my life on it.
I see nothing today that has changed anything. Just
business as usual. The company has been selling shares
for going on a year. We know about the reverse split and
we know how many shares will be outstanding. What we don't
know regardless of what anyone states, is if the company will
be successful in generating significant sales on its Mobile Trust
technology and be able to get cash positive and to aggressively market its products. It is too early to tell if this stock is
going to be a big winner or not. Clearly it is a big loser to
most including myself as I am down 90%. However, the company
is still active and as far as I can tell has a viable, patented
product that could be in great demand for a long time. The share structure will be infinitely better after the reverse split. One
thing is clear. This year is a pivotal year and by the end of it
we will know one way or the other with high probability on whether
or not we are a go or not. Regardless of your position at this time
my advice is to watch it very carefully after the reverse split.