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Here we go....speculation giveth and cc taketh.....what a roller coaster ride....i hope they come back in the next week or two with a solid large contract to support the claims of the last five years all coming together for revenues. If not we may just drift back tk last week prices quuckly.
I am hopeful that lqmt will succeed before they go bankrupt.....but i have to come to certainty that stockgreen is absolutely a PAID PUMPER. This guy speaks with no reasoning...just the same lines year after year....what a joke.
Very true snd soberring insight sparky....thanks....the truth of conditions, not only stockgreens single minded pumps should be explained to new and old members of this board alike. They say the truth shall set you free. Not that your always going to be right, but you are trying to offer well documented proof of past actions our management have done to the investors money. With that said, i know there is a possibility of a breakout scenario for lqmt.....hence i am still here. But to try to tell others only of the dream without any of the reality is crap in my opinion. This is a RISK...one that I HOPE pays off.
"Mabye the price of the share is not the motivation here"
This deep pit in my gut is telling me your right! As much as i think this technology has a great future, time and time again the management keeps blatantly overly take care of themselves with our money and piss all over the investors.
Its been a long time since I went to church....maybe i should start going so i can learn how to feel righteous about taking undeserved money from others like self proclaimed christian Tom Steipp.
There never is for months. The agreement states it will continue unless either side pulls out of it. Nobody has to sign anything to keep the agreement going. The last two years nothing was revealed for months, i cant see why this year would be any different.
But that $80,000 was pulled from the company cash, the lifeblood us investors put into lqmt, was it not! Thats where the problem lies.....not what he makes, but what he takes from our seed money!
Stockgreen.....you always post as if you are always wearing rose colored glasses. Almost lemming like blindly saying everything is rosey, even when the share price is eroding in front of us. Here is a post you posted november 2014:
Re: poop deck pappy Post# 61559
Yes you are right if the share price stays here @ .15 and even more if the share price was to go lower.....for now they have enough $ till end of 2015......so I guess best time to question this is around Nov next year since the money is already secured & we can take it when we need it....enjoy
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Thanks, I am enjoying. I'm not losing money
poop deck pappy on 11/20/2014 10:49:30 PM
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So according to your post is it now past the time we need to question our direction as investors and the interest our management has in us the shareholders to be rewarded for our loyalty and support?
Unfortunately NOT ENJOYING!!
Hmmmmm.......let me look into my crystal ball......I see liquidmetal making YOU a LOT of money year after year!..........wait my ball is fuzzy.........OHH!!!!.....I guess it only shows Tom Steipp making all that money...FROM you...the shareholder.
When is that gonna happen? They still haven't told the stockholders the value of a knife contract from last year.
I More than any, want to see the stock soar with news such as today's. Those of us that have been invested for two or three years or longer have seen this cycle many many times. The cycle consists of a PR that seems like the stock is going to be off to the races, only the PR never has all the information you need , such as revenue or worth of the contract. The stock then moves up momentarily, followed by a sharp sell off that ends up stinging a lot of new investors and keeping the current investors bag holders. I believe there's always that chance that this is the beginning of the new Liquidmetal, but as being a long term stockholder here, I don't like to get that excited because the letdown is always very hard. We can all speculate on what's going to happen, but only time is the true test to know where the stock will end up. Good luck to everyone invested.
I love the fact that we have a new comercial production order. I hate the fact that the PR has no information on the dollar value of the contract. I want to know if these revenues are substantial or not. Lets get this pps rock'in.
Well there is one big lie so far. Out of Steipps own mouth.....major European contract to be announced FALL of 2015! That time has come and gone Buddy. wouldnt you think since he said it he would have gotten back to us shareholders about the subject....whether it happened, not gonna happen, or in the works, but still a secret..........give the shareholders that are funding your salary a little well deserved respect!
The Apple agreement, automatically extends. It only stops if they choose to pull it. The wording says the agreement stays perpetual if both parties do nothing.
Iv been in this turd since 2013........evertime the iphone rumors come it lifts the stock price less and less. People are falling for the pumps less and less and need real results to believe anymorre.....if they ever come!
I agree that is very frustrating to see these press releases come out with no details. But with that being said, when they have spoke of prototype orders before they never followed up saying that a full production of commercial parts were going to be happening a few month later. They always said they're sending out the prototype parts and that was it. To me it sounds like when they say pre order parts and follow up by saying that the full production line will be done at the beginning of next year tells me they already have a contract. Unless they are just screwing with our heads, I think that there might be some substantialness to this. At least I sure hope there is.
Looks as though Steipp is getting very compfortable at saying how pleased he is with the results every cc as the revenue is zilch, his pay continue to rise and pps sinks like a rock. A nice eff you to the shareholders......effing asshole.
Sounds like you're right on the money.
Uh oh, it dropped below $0.10. My prediction is we get a press release pump by Thursday night of this week. They need to keep it above $0.10 so they can keep deluding shares through the prearranged financing. That is if they haven't already used it all. I feel like a moth flying towards the light of the bug lamp in slow motion, this sucks!
Mabye its just me, but i don't think we see a huge pump up in the price until Steipp figures out how to get a whole bunch more company awarded management stock options for themselves on the books at todays current price. let the games continue.
Definitely seems as though something smells rotten in Denmark. This death spiral I'm sure we'll make somebody rich, just not us.
Well there's definitely a different in burning the bar down and just trying to be observant of what's going on around us
It sure looks as though the last week when the manipulators kept the stock between 10.8 cents and $0.11 they were doing another huge dilution to our stock. After are creditors accumulated all the stock that Liquidmetal wanted to sell a timely PR came out to shoot the stock up considerably for one day giving the creditors time to sell all of the stock that they bought into the open market at a profit. Seems pretty slick
I certainly hope that there is merit to the contract that the PR speaks of, but at the same time I have a very hard time trusting the same individuals that have used a stockholders as pawns to gain huge salaries at our expense.
It seems that the press release is so vague that it will be very hard to keep management accountable for what we can expect or we cannot expect out of the said contracts. This is definitely a huge chess match.
I know some will say why am i speaking negatively, why don't I just sell my shares and leave. Because part of me believes there is something worth fighting for here. I am just afraid of the greed of our management. I have not always been this negative, but as things happen one by one a lot of conspiracy theories come into my mind. I am just trying to look at it for what it is and I hope that I'm wrong on the direction that we're going.
I think they also remove the testimonial letter from Miltner Adams! Hmmmmm
I suppose that the less details they give us, the better chance they will not be caught in as many lies. Doesn't sound like management doesn't want to keep us in any loop. That's not giving much respect to important business partners (US SHAREHOLDERS), the ones financing all this cloak and dagger bull crap.
I defiantly hope i am wrong, engel involvement adds ton of clout and productivity. It just struck me odd in the latest PR as the three contracts to be orders of the manufacturing center of excellence rather then orders of liquidmetal. WHATEVER GETS THIS COMPANY AND STOCK SOARING. Good luck all!
Gorgol,
Why are you assuming that engel is in charge of the european order. In the press release yesterday, Steipp said that there are now three orders for the manufacturing center of excellence, with the european order being one of them. I think they are doing the order there in California.
Why do you get so excited and overreact on news with no substance?
I wAnt this stock to break through as much as you, but we've both been around long enough to know that when a PR comes out vague, with absolutely no accountability or details, its just another day.
Lqmt is very inconsistent with their public PR.
WITH THE KNIFE CONTRACT THERE WAS no news of a prototype contract, just a manufacturing contract.
The european prototype contract was released with details on company,product, time frame, value
Now this prototype contract is released with absolutely no information as well.
Why wasn't the knife contract announced when they got the prototype order? I think they are just trying to put fluff articles in our face to keep us investors at bay.
Making parts for prospective buyers is their business and the only way they can make money for the company. The company has been around for many years and this should be business as usual.
I feel like uninformed PR's such as this is meant only to be smoke and mirrors to confuse us stockholders into believing that big money is about to come in. The only problem such PR's have been coming out for years!
It would be really nice to wake up one day and see a PR saying we have a contract for x amount of dollars over a certain attainable time frame. Maybe it will happen, but they need to make it happen quick"
With the vagueness of this article it offers suggestion that we may get some revenue, possibly in a undisclosed time frame. That really kind of sucks that we have to trust the people that have been asking for extremely gross pay raises from the shareholders (US) of a company making almost no revenues. This makes me skeptical that this is a premature article just to try to show more validity of the possible future revenues to us so they can try to ask for more raises.
Sorry, Im just spouting now. I just want some real, detailed news and actually make some money,
I think it wont move much....this anticipated low revenues was already built in the stock price. I think most were not expecting anything from this call. Just my opinion.
I have a question, if Steipp only has four days left to this contract then what happens.? Is the board able to draw up any new contract at any rate of pay they wish? Because if that's the case the board may do that if Steipp continues to give them bigger salaries. I'm really curious to see how the next few days play out although I don't believe they will disclose what they do until they have to, which could be at the conference call? As far as business tactics using other peoples money( us investors) they are lining their pockets well. As far as running an ethical, moral company ran by a fair self appointed christian based leader, this practice is unforgivable. Only time will tell if the company survives and thrives despite all the cream the management keeps skimming. I hope the big picture they can see will be good for all invested in this, if not and they are stealing money from us, i pity Steipps soul.
I agree that Steipp is a very smart and strategic man. I just am not 100 percent sure whether his strategy is to take care of the shareholders or take the shareholders for our investments to pay himself and insiders. Whatever his agenda truly is, he defiantly has the smarts to navigate there. I guess my investment represents blind faith at the technology and steops word. Time will tell the story.
Is this secret contract what you had in mind by 7/17? Because it doesn't feel like my ship came in yet.
Market not too impressed by yesterdays news....still down about 5% FROM MONDAYS CLOSE.
Again, i very much hope you are right! I just have gotten weary of being kicked in the teeth. I own shares and have watched the pps go up and down dramatically a coupe of times over the last 2 1/2 years with no legs to carry on. I still hold and hope, but am growing more impatient. If it finally goes up to stay, ill be much more positive indeed.
That is where my negativity lies...the fact that we don't know what the contract is. Liquidmetals chose of when to drop these non accountable articles. They continually put out PR's that don't let us as stakeholders in the company know any details at all. Im all for forward movement in any production. After so many false starts in our PPS with vague such articles just to see our pps go up and drift down quickly, thereafter im apprehensive. I truly hope im very wrong...i own shares and want to see this baby fly badly! After all this time im waiting for the article that says we have a comercial contract in medical for Xamount of dollars. Maybe i am being pessimistic, but this seems like a ploy to temporarily bump pps and distract us from possibly low low revenue numbers they may release at the next conference call. Letting us know revenues are just around the corner.....mabye.
I want this to be a major positive as much or more than anyone, but i sadly believe Watts is on target...this is crap. When we all wait for any forward movement in our investments road to profitability and are just thrown crumbs of vagueness with no accountability, im offended. Why even write this PR? This is not a contract for a commercial product. Making test products for customers is what they were already suppose to be doing. With no company name, product being made or revenue stream details in the PR, it only makes the future of our revenues and PPS more unknown causing more investor confusion. Looks like someone needs to sell a few shares again. May go up a little...they'll some off and back down to 12 cents. Come on LQMT...WE NEED SOME BIG NEWS YOU CAN SHOUT ABOUT, NOT SECRET UNKNOWN PROTOTYPE ORDERS YOU JUST KINDA MENTION WITH NO DETAILS. Back to LQMT 101.
I agree that everything about this turing phone looks like a hoax. No sign of a structural business, no track record. Yet they want you to pre order out of country with over $600......scam alert! Someone can plaster fake articles and propaganda all over the internet and some will be fool enough to send them money. This really has nothing to do with lqmt.
I really don't know if this is what's happening, but i think it is quite possible.
Back from vacation.....no mirical run-up while I was gone? ...dang!
In business, INTEGRITY wins support of customer and investors alike. From what i see thats what lqmt is missing. Everyone admires a straight shooter. One simple thing that gets people on board is to communicate whats going on and then DOING WHAT YOU SAY YOUR GOING TO DO!
Time and time again Steipp has told us about parts in the midst, or military contracts, or many things right around the corner only to later ignore what he said or pretend to be clueless about it when it is brought up at a later time. Now, knifes in June and no communication from lqmt. If something planned doesnt happen my learned expectation from lqmt is silence....that creates alot of doubt, suspicion, and frustration.
Milltner Adams has built a company on having a stellar product and a great reputation. With this mindset i imagine that they are very frustrated that their knives to the pre orders were not able to be shipped when they said they would be shipped. They broke the rule DO WHAT YOU SAY YOR GOING TO DO to their customers. Their answer was to quickly communicate to the customer why and what happened. On the back side of that, obviously lqmt wasn't able to deliver WHAT They said they would WHEN they said they would.
Maybe i am wrong and have this read entirely differently then it truly happened. I hope that lqmt takes care of MA beyond his expectation, that is the way to earn business period.
I, as much as any want LQMT to blow up big time. There is a real potential with this metal and the patents they share with apple, but we need to call out shoddy followthrough because it will affect all our chances to be in on a successful investment.
I agree, with the importance of this first production of liquid metal to be perfect, this is major screwup.
I wonder after this production is complete if the sentiments in Miltner adams testimonial on the Lqmt website will be as rosy as the current letter. I hope things are made right and they are.
I believe that this is an amazing product, but as these setbacks keep rolling in, it makes me suspicious that our leaders are getting kickbacks from big compaies and money to pretend to be trying to successfully commercialize lqmt. ......im just ranting. Weve been waiting long enough, this should be much more professional and successful by now. Get it together and produce.
I agree, I believe that we are close to coming out of the dark tunnel. There is too many positive things happening right now that have not affected the share price yet. When they all come together and we have some contracts that pop up out of nowhere we will see some price movement. I am going on vacation camping for a week where there is no internet or cell phone service, so hopefully when I come back there will have been some price movement in the stock. one can dream. Happy fathers day.