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Random justice ... not really random ... only applied to posters that moderators do not like ... generally people who tell the truth about penny stock scams.
InvestorsHub is nothing but a pump fest. It is totally useless due to the moderators' ability to delete posts on a subjective basis. All this is sanctioned by Matt's lackies who run this joke of a site.
Either delete all the off topic posts or delete none of them. Selective post deletions at the whim of a moderator only serve to silence those who value the truth.
dolphinsmike, you are exactly right! The InvestorHub moderator system is BROKEN, and the fools who run the site have no idea how to fix it.
"the problem with investorshub is they allow creators to control the flow of the chat room. usually the people who are in charge of the chat room are people who believe strongly in the company. and when you post an opposing view they delete the message."
"taking matters into your own hands"
Dave, I have to agree with you there. When some jerk moderator deletes a post that I spent my time to write, it makes me angry. After that, I will simply speak my mind.
90% of the posts on these boards are technically off topic. Funny how only certain ones are deleted. Until you can figure out a way to delete ALL the off topic posts, you should not allow moderators to pick and choose which people they want silenced.
Your moderators are the ones censuring your boards, yet you are worried about my "juvenile behavior" when all I have done is write a few posts that people do not like. I am sure my posting average is less than 1 per day. You need to fix the real problem rather than going after a rare and honest poster like me.
Dave, I posted my opinion of InvestorsHub ONCE one a couple of boards. ONLY when my post was deleted did I post again. And there is the problem. Your biased moderators will delete post after post, and you do not care. Honest investors cannot even get a simple opinion to stick on a board.
As long as you allow your moderators to delete any post they do not like, these boards will be useless. You seem to have no desire whatsoever to fix the problem. I suggested you at least put in a simple way for people to inquire about deleted posts, but you do not even bother to comment. The problem with a deleted post is that it is gone with no way to check on it. I have spent a lot of time writing valuable posts, only to have a biased moderators make them vanish with a mouse click.
The real irony is that any post discussing the lack of free speech on these boards tends to get deleted. I guess the truth hurts.
Sorry Dave, but in my opinion, the moderators have made these boards useless. I have posted plenty of informative posts that have been deleted by over zealous moderators. There is not a decent process for having posts reviewed, and the time I did ask Matt what was wrong with a post, he would not really say, but it was obvious he had no intention of re-instating it because it was a negative post.
While negative posts are quickly deleted, all the mindless pumping posts always remain on the boards. This has the effect of creating one sided boards where most of the posts are just useless cheerleading.
I have given up on these boards until you can figure out a way to control your moderators. Deleting a post should be a last resort, and it should only be done in cases of personal attacks and pumping spam. As long as these boards make it so easy for moderators to delete posts as a way to control content, these boards will be useless to the average investor.
These IHub boards have become a joke. The "moderators" are nothing but censures who delete any post they do not like. It makes the board a useless pump fest where no serious questions can be raised. 99% of pink sheet stocks are scams, so censorship of negative posts creates a completely erroneous view of the penny stock world.
This Nazi-like censorship is all sanctioned by Hitler himself, Matt. Matt is a penny stock scam artist, and he does not like negative posts. He will approve deletion of posts that clearly meet the official "TOU". The unwritten TOU is that negative posts against scam penny stocks are not allowed.
Hitler Matt and is Nazi moderators are welcome to have IHub all for themselves. The board is of no use to the average investor.
Alex, I apologize for thinking that this company had changed. RD is obviously still in charge here. You have been exactly right about this company through this latest round of press releases while I have been temporarily blinded. You are a true asset to this board. I hope others here appreciate your wisdom.
This company has not changed
I thought this company had changed, but I was wrong. It is the same company it was back when it was UDVE. The stock games and the attempted "short squeeze" are proof that this company is not serious about becoming a real company.
The share swap with Modern Energy is a joke. In my opinion, GPGD and MDNO are both pink sheet shells run by the same scam artists. Take a look at the web sites for the companies. They are virtually identical. They were obviously done by the same web page designer based in Israel.
http://www.modernenergycorp.com/
http://www.grandgoldcorp.com/
Companies that play games with their shares usually do not have a real plan for adding value. I think the real plan here is to create some buzz and try to sell some stock. It seems the market is wise to the game that the scam artists are playing here because there is a complete lack of interest.
Sorry, Yoe. I did not mean to offend you. I have seen GPGD run before, and this is the only other board I follow on InvestorsHub that is related to a pink sheet mining stock. I thought others here might want to take a look at it. I am by no means recommending GPGD as a quality stock. I has had a sordid past just like most of the pink sheet junk.
lhs, I will never understand why you became so bitter. You need to be a little more thick skinned when it comes to penny stocks. You also have to learn to go with the flow. When the tide is going out, you need to run for the shore. Now that the tide is coming back in, it is time to go surfing!
By the way, I still think Regent is extremely disappointing. If this company is serious about changing, they need to dump Regent and get some real exploration done on that gold property. Regent is a loser.
Blue, I think the accumulation is nothing compared to what it could be if the market really picks up on the story here. The price movement so far has been on very little dollar volume. Just wait until this stock is discovered.
This is not the same company it was a week ago.
GPGD up 8% today to $.038. This company has BIG plans. If you like penny mining stocks, this one is worth checking out. I have posted a lot of good information on the message board.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=5344
WIGWAM MAGNETITE 092M02E WIGWAM 1000 Mt 7.500% Ma
092M 010 Developed Prospect 1984 Unclassified
51 08 20 N 126 43 42 W Vancouver Assessment Report 12204.
09 5667500 N 658920 E Alaskan-type Pt±Os±Rh±Ir Reserves are judged to be in the multibillion tonne category; average
magnetite content is 5 to 10 per cent.
From: http://www.empr.gov.bc.ca/Mining/Geolsurv/Minfile/products/resvres/rgen5300.pdf
This has not yet been released in a PR:
Grand Pacaraima Gold Corp recently acquired, for stock, the Wigwam Group of Mineral Claims on Vancouver Island that contains multi-billon ton inferred reserves of iron ore with an average 7.5% Grade – making it similar in size to the Klukwan reserve in Alaska. Current estimates puts the value at approximately $1.5 Billion USD.
Check out the last report on the Wigwam claims. It looks like there is BIG potential here.
http://www.em.gov.bc.ca/DL/ArisReports/12204.PDF
GPGD web site!!!
GPGD now has a real web site! It is obviously still under construction, but it still contains some VERY INTERESTING information. Check it out!
http://www.grandgoldcorp.com/
rondo, you are correct. There will likely be dilution with these deals.
This is currently a $3M company. How much will this company be worth after the energy deal and the resources to develop the gold property? $30M? $50M? $100M? $300M?
I have questioned this company in the past, but I think now is the time to own a piece.
Another sign this company might be serious about becoming an international gold producer.
I just noticed this on the PinkSheets site even though it happened back in May.
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=gpgd
"Security Notes: Note= Company changed incorporation from Oregon to United Kingdom on 5-14-07."
Something is going on here!
lhs, it is true that 99% of pink sheet stocks are terrible long term investments. But some of them can be very good investments if your timing is right. I am not a genius when it comes to timing, but I am one of the few people on this board who has profited from this stock in the past. I would say that gives me some credibility.
I ridiculed this stock all the way down from its peak at $.12. The stock was obviously a terrible investment at that price. I raised lots of questions that no one could answer. Then the news stopped, and I bashed the company relentlessly. I will admit to that. I was right to do so. The company had abandoned its investors and had not followed through on any of its promises.
Now we have a spark that could grow into a raging fire. The company is alive again. I think it might be a good time to be invested here once again.
I am glad that you still have 100k shares. If the press release is just a flash in the pan, and the stock goes back to $.01, you will not have lost much. If the good news continues, this could easily go up 10 time the current price. That would be a nice profit.
The best investing advice is simple: Buy low, sell high.
If you like pink sheet mining stocks, check out GPGD. I think it is ready to run. It has a tiny market cap of just a couple million dollars. They now have a high profile billionaire on board. This could mean that BIG things are coming.
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=gpgd
Grand Pacaraima Gold Corporation Announces Appointment of New Chairman
VERNON, BC, Oct 31, 2007 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Grand Pacaraima Gold Corporation (PINKSHEETS: GPGD) announced today the appointment of A.A. Abdoulladjanov as the company's new Chairman of the Board. Mr. Abdoulladjanov is a former Prime Minister of Tajikistan and a former Ambassador to Russia.
Mr. Abdoulladjanov is respected internationally as a political, business and diplomatic leader. He graduated from the Academy of National Economics of USSR in Moscow and possesses advanced degrees in Engineering, Economics, Urban Planning and Agriculture.
He is the founder of several large industrial concerns in the former Soviet Union in the industries of Mining, Manufacturing, Textiles and Agriculture and became known as one of the first Billionaires in the former Soviet Union.
Grand Pacaraima Gold Corporation will soon provide an update on its Venezuela Gold Mining assets in the Pacaraima mountain ranges, its pending acquisition of large Iron Ore and platinum deposits on 1,500 hectares in Canada, and producing oil and gas interests in the United States of America.
Hey, when this company has news to report, they tend to put out multiple press releases updating investors on the situation. The last time I owned this stock was 1.5 years ago. The stock went from $.04 to $.12. On that rally, each press release just raised more questions. I asked people on this message board for answers, and no one seemed to be able to answer them. That is when I sold at $.12, and the stock has drifted down ever since.
This time might be different. The company seems to have some concrete plans for growth. I would expect to see at least one press release per week as investors are updated on the plans. If I like what the press releases say, I will hold on for possible huge gains. If the press releases seem to be going nowhere, I will sell like last time.
Hold on. This could be quite a ride.
lhsmith, as you know, I am well aware of this company's sordid past. On the other hand, stock price is often driven by news, and the press release is extremely encouraging. Something is happening here, and I do not yet know what it is. I just know that I want to be invested.
I am back in.
I have questioned this company plenty in the past, but I must admit that I really liked that press release. It sounds like they might be serious about turning this into a real company.
I am eagerly awaiting news of the plans this company has. I think the stock price could go bonkers if the market likes what it hears.
If it does go to $.50, I will be very happy for the longs. I do not have anything against this stock in particular. In fact, I made some money on it back in 2005. I just do not like penny stock scams in general. They are a disgrace to the free enterprise system, and the people who promote them are the scum of the earth.
Just received my spam. Someone is definitely trying to run a pump on this scam.
Emergency report. Check DMXC!
5 day price: ~$0.50
RCKS, I saw that article posted on a message board. I have followed this stock since it was Cascade Mountain Mining as a case study in penny stock scams. I was surprised to see in mentioned in an article like this.
A Yahoo search shows the article is from the New York Times. Full text below.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/business/media/05adco.html
Breathless Pitches for Penny Stocks, Now in Newspapers
By LYNNLEY BROWNING
The New York Times
September 5, 2007
CHECK your e-mail, and chances are it holds several get-rich-quick offers to buy a hot stock in a tiny, unknown company.
Open up a major newspaper, including USA Today and The New York Times, and you could see full-page advertisements with the same solicitations, all hyperventilating with “insider” tips on the next big investment.
The promotion of penny stocks, for years a staple of Internet spam and “boiler rooms” running illegal pump-and-dump schemes, has recently burst forth in splashy full-page ads in major daily newspapers. Not even the recent market turbulence has deterred the marketers of these penny stocks, which are traded in over-the-counter markets and have long been a magnet for fraud.
Penny stocks are volatile, risky, thinly traded securities issued by minuscule companies that are disproportionately known for having big losses, meager sales, cozy insider management and scant or unverifiable financial data. Unscrupulous promoters typically work by “blast” faxing or flooding the Internet with press releases so that investors will read the dubious news and bid up the hyped shares. Then the promoters can cash in by selling the stock, typically in huge volume.
There is a certain formula to these advertisements: breathless claims for a miraculous-sounding product or trove of commodities, comparisons to well-respected brands, and an exhortation to the reader to get in on the ground floor by investing in the unknown company.
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“How much would you pay to slow or stop the aging process?” asks one ad from the Aug. 24 issue of USA Today for a company called MitoPharm, which makes what it calls a “true anti-aging drink” called Restorade. “This industry is making smart investors overnight millionaires,” the ad states, citing Coca-Cola’s purchase of Glaceau. “The buying frenzy is likely to continue,” and, the ad concludes, “MTPM could be the hottest story to hit Wall Street this year!”
R. Cromwell Coulson, chief executive of the Pink Sheets, an unregulated over-the-counter market, said that such ads offer plenty of obvious reasons to beware. “If it’s being hyped like this, it’s probably worthy of cynicism,” he said. “If it’s a small company, why are they spending so much on touting their stock?”
There is no indication that the recent ads have broken any securities laws, and newspapers, which are facing declining ad revenues, are not required to vouch for the veracity of the claims. Maria Terrell, a spokeswoman for the International Newspaper Marketing Association, said that “it’s not a newspaper’s responsibility to verify the facts of an ad being placed.” But she added that the recent ads, for newspapers and investors alike, were “definitely something to pay attention to.”
Last April, a small unknown company called Nano Chemical Systems Holdings bought a full-page ad in the business section of The New York Times, replete with frothy lines like “Don’t miss this incredible investment opportunity!”
In the ad, Nano Chemical Systems Holdings of Seaford, Del., a former publisher of history textbooks, described its plans to become a leading biofuel maker and compared itself to Intel and Microsoft. “These two industry giants made early investors rich beyond their wildest dreams,“ reads the copy, adding that in “in much the same way, Nano Chemical Systems Holdings is positioning itself as one of the companies that can help make the Alternative Energy revolution possible!”
Neither the ad nor Nano Chemical’s Web site discloses that the company’s main business is manufacturing industrial waxes and lubricants. And there were other gaps. The ad made no mention of the fact that in January 2006, the Securities and Exchange Commission issued subpoenas to Nano Chemical related to its issuance of press releases, among other things. The company has said it is cooperating with the S.E.C.’s investigation.
The fine print at the bottom of the Nano Chemical Systems Holdings ad did disclose that a company named GIA Consulting had been paid over $232,000 by an unnamed third party to prepare and place the ad as well as “other informational advertisements.” While the ad said that GIA Consulting did not own any shares in Nano Chemical Systems Holdings, it gave no contact details for GIA Consulting or specific mention of the third party.
Alex H. Edwards III, the interim chief executive of Nano Chemical Systems Holdings, said he thought GIA Consulting was “a shareholder who placed the ad because they thought the company was undervalued.” He said he did not know where GIA Consulting was based or that the ad was coming out. Attempts to locate GIA Consulting were unsuccessful.
Asked about the ad, Abbe R. Serphos, a spokeswoman for The Times, said that “it has been the longstanding policy of The New York Times to accept advertisements that promote stocks or securities as long as those securities are registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission or the attorney general of New York State.” She added: “In a few rare instances companies with unregulated securities have managed to place ads in the paper. When we learned of them, we took steps to make sure their ads do not appear in the paper again.”
Nano Chemical Systems had registered its securities offerings, according to filings; the stock trades on the Pink Sheets for around 5 cents a share.
Pat Huddleston, a former enforcement official with the S.E.C. who now runs Investor’s Watchdog, a consumer advocacy organization, said that “it’s a sign of how optimistic of success these scam artists are that they are turning to papers like The New York Times.”
By May, other tiny, unknown companies, among them USA Superior Energy (an oil company), Trend Exploration (mining) and BioStem Inc. (stem cell storage), were subjects of full-page ads, some in color, in USA Today, the nation’s largest-circulation daily newspaper.
The ad for BioStem, for example, said that the firm was “capitalizing on the new cord blood stem cell industry with its potentially life-saving medical applications.”
Those are high ambitions for a company formerly known as National Parking Systems, and whose main business today is still running parking lots and “vehicle immobilization services” in Atlanta, where it is based. None of that information is disclosed in the ad.
Neither is BioStem’s previous incarnations as the Web Views Corporation (an Internet company) and the Cascade Mountain Mining Corporation.
Neither does the ad give any indication of BioStem’s shaky financial position, including accumulated losses of more than $15.5 million, according to S.E.C. filings.
The ad says that BioStem will be acquired by Cryobanks International Inc., a private, untraded company based in Altamonte Springs, Fla., that is “a leader in the collection, processing and banking of stem cells.”
But the USA Today ad omits mention of the suspected role of Cryobanks in a Ghana-based money-laundering scheme.
That role is described in an amended lawsuit filed by federal prosecutors in Federal District Court in Brooklyn in August 2004 against Shankar’s Emporium and various related participants and bank accounts.
The civil complaint contends that in early 2004, at least $59,800 obtained in connection with the scheme was placed in Cryobanks International by Kazi Management VI Inc., a firm incorporated in the United States Virgin Islands.
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Kazi Management and its related entities are owned or controlled by Zubair Kazi, who is the chairman of Cryobanks International and, through a Kazi Management entity, a major investor in Cryobanks. Mr. Kazi is also the second-largest KFC franchisee in the United States, according to the Cryobanks Web site. Calls to Mr. Kazi in Studio City, Calif., were not returned.
In November 2005, the Shankar entities settled the case for $1.3 million without admitting wrongdoing. Alan Burger, a lawyer for Cryobanks in the case, declined to comment.
When asked about the BioStem ad, a spokeswoman for USA Today said: “Advertisers are responsible for the content of their ads, as well as for complying with any legal obligations associated with those ads. USA Today does occasionally review ads on an as-needed basis.”
To be sure, the fine print in the newspaper ads reveals more than the typical Internet-based solicitation.
For example, in its USA Today ad, BioStem discloses that a firm called ATN Enterprises L.L.C. prepared the ad and paid a second firm, Discovery Stocks, $37,500 to place it. The ad also discloses that ATN “has been hired by third-party consultants and is contracted to receive” one million “free-trading shares” of BTEM, and thus has an inherent conflict of interest in promoting BioStem. It also says that Discovery Stocks can trade in the shares. Calls to ATN’s head, Roy Campbell, in Miami Springs, Fla., were not returned.
Steve Clark, the head of Discovery Stocks, said: “I’m not promoting the stock. It’s essentially a direct-response advertisement. We’re seeing a lot more of it now.” He said he had recently placed similar ads in newspapers in Seattle and Tampa, among other cities.
Breathless Pitches for Penny Stocks, Now in Newspapers
By LYNNLEY BROWNING
September 5, 2007
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The ad for BioStem, for example, said that the firm was “capitalizing on the new cord blood stem cell industry with its potentially life-saving medical applications.”
Those are high ambitions for a company formerly known as National Parking Systems, and whose main business today is still running parking lots and “vehicle immobilization services” in Atlanta, where it is based. None of that information is disclosed in the ad.
Neither is BioStem's previous incarnations as the Web Views Corporation (an Internet company) and the Cascade Mountain Mining Corporation.
Neither does the ad give any indication of BioStem's shaky financial position, including accumulated losses of more than $15.5 million, according to S.E.C. filings.
The ad says that BioStem will be acquired by Cryobanks International Inc., a private, untraded company based in Altamonte Springs, Fla., that is “a leader in the collection, processing and banking of stem cells.”
But the USA Today ad omits mention of the suspected role of Cryobanks in a Ghana-based money-laundering scheme.
That role is described in an amended lawsuit filed by federal prosecutors in Federal District Court in Brooklyn in August 2004 against Shankar's Emporium and various related participants and bank accounts.
The civil complaint contends that in early 2004, at least $59,800 obtained in connection with the scheme was placed in Cryobanks International by Kazi Management VI Inc., a firm incorporated in the United States Virgin Islands.
Kazi Management and its related entities are owned or controlled by Zubair Kazi, who is the chairman of Cryobanks International and, through a Kazi Management entity, a major investor in Cryobanks. Mr. Kazi is also the second-largest KFC franchisee in the United States, according to the Cryobanks Web site. Calls to Mr. Kazi in Studio City, Calif., were not returned.
In November 2005, the Shankar entities settled the case for $1.3 million without admitting wrongdoing. Alan Burger, a lawyer for Cryobanks in the case, declined to comment.
When asked about the BioStem ad, a spokeswoman for USA Today said: “Advertisers are responsible for the content of their ads, as well as for complying with any legal obligations associated with those ads. USA Today does occasionally review ads on an as-needed basis.”
To be sure, the fine print in the newspaper ads reveals more than the typical Internet-based solicitation.
For example, in its USA Today ad, BioStem discloses that a firm called ATN Enterprises L.L.C. prepared the ad and paid a second firm, Discovery Stocks, $37,500 to place it. The ad also discloses that ATN “has been hired by third-party consultants and is contracted to receive” one million “free-trading shares” of BTEM, and thus has an inherent conflict of interest in promoting BioStem. It also says that Discovery Stocks can trade in the shares. Calls to ATN's head, Roy Campbell, in Miami Springs, Fla., were not returned.
Steve Clark, the head of Discovery Stocks, said: “I'm not promoting the stock. It's essentially a direct-response advertisement. We're seeing a lot more of it now.” He said he had recently placed similar ads in newspapers in Seattle and Tampa, among other cities.
"a leading Canadian-based mining concern with significant mining holdings within the country of Venezuela"
I just love that quote! It makes it obvious that this is the same scam as UDVE.
I also like the assay by "Metallurgica de Mineras S.A." Apparently that is not even a real company.
Whoa, this was 6 MONTHS ago! And NOTHING has happened! How long does it take to bring in some equipment and drill a few holes?
These scams always show their true colors over time. They always make lots of big promises and never have any results.
Why do people waste their time with pink sheet scams when there are so many real companies out there with stocks trading at bargain prices?
I feel sorry for that sucker who bought Regent REV.v at $.99. I wonder if he is still holding? After all, it is not a loss until you sell! Ha, ha, ha!
I tend to think the public would be better off if the SEC simply shut down the Pink Sheets and the OTC BB. Success stories are extremely rare and are far outweighed by the scams. Penny stocks on average are a huge drain on the free enterprise system. The quality small companies are funded by private money. The junk is sold to the public.
The "leading Canadian-based mining concern with significant mining holdings within the country of Venezuela" is looking worse than ever. That is what they get for making deals with scams.
Durk, so true! A simple warning from PinkSheets says it all!
There are so many good stocks out there that it is completely unnecessary to waste time on the pink sheet scams. The pink sheets are a money pit with the dilution hole getting deeper every day.
DMXC Pink Sheets rating: Stop, No Information
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=dmxc#getQuote
No Information - Indicates companies that are not able or willing to provide disclosure to the public markets - either to a regulator, an exchange or Pink Sheets. Companies in this category do not make Current Information available via Pink Sheets News Service, or if they do, the available information is older than six months.
This category includes defunct companies that have ceased operations as well as “dark” companies with questionable management and market disclosure practices. Publicly traded companies that are not willing to provide information to investors should be treated with suspicion and their securities should be considered highly risky.
GPGD gets PinkSheets listing of: STOP
This means as per PinkSheets site:
No Information - Indicates companies that are not able or willing to provide disclosure to the public markets - either to a regulator, an exchange or Pink Sheets. Companies in this category do not make Current Information available via Pink Sheets News Service, or if they do, the available information is older than six months.
This category includes defunct companies that have ceased operations as well as “dark” companies with questionable management and market disclosure practices. Publicly traded companies that are not willing to provide information to investors should be treated with suspicion and their securities should be considered highly risky.
braden, it does not matter if Gary is an insider or not. He is free to post on message boards, answer e-mails, and talk on the telephone either way. They only thing an insider is not allowed to do is give out inside information. Have you seen any inside information on this board? If not, I do not understand why you have a problem.
I-6GM:
Thank you for clearing that up. It appears that old AVTX share holders still will own everything they owned before (after the spin off is complete) PLUS they own 6.5% of the frog juice company.
It seems like a good deal for everyone!
-Fred
I-6GM:
I enjoyed reading your response to Cyto, and I must chime in. I am a past holder of AVTX, but I sold when I realized the royalty stream was not what I expected. I continue to follow the company out of curiosity.
I think some people are a little angry at you in regards to who owns what. Since I do not own the stock, maybe I can ask the question in an objective manner.
From what I understand, old AVTX stock holders own the following after the reverse merger:
1. Their portion of the 6.5% of the frog juice company.
2. Their portion of I-6 (eventually)
You will own the same as above in addition to the EVS royalty stream. Is this correct?
If this is correct, what do you expect the EVS royalty stream to be going forward? Are you disappointed by EVS royalties and Kollsman?
I think this is why some of your share holders are upset. They bought the stock in order to own the EVS royalty stream, but they instead own 6.5% of the frog juice company. Maybe this was a good trade. I assume you believe that this was indeed in the best interest of the share holders. Am I right?
-Fred
It is an easy bandwagon to jump on. These pink sheet scams are very predictable because they are all the same. Why would anyone buy a stock that does not even report to share holders? That is like giving money to a stranger on a street corner who tells you he will be back in a week to pay you back with interest. What are the chances you will ever see your money again?
Obama scares me. At least I know what to expect with Hillary.