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The irony is that EPGL just called him a POS. Still holding long, but this tweeting is getting even more out of hand. It's like they handed the account to someone drunk.
I'm with you on this one. Hanging on one, final thread of hope. Ready to sell my position and move on. At this point, we'll never know if the whole share retirement talk was all just theater.
EPGL's Twitter account is just like a broken record. Repeating the same thing daily, weekly, monthly. Everyday, the stench of desperation increases. While in reality, we should be going in the opposite direction.
Hey EPGL, your tweets are making you sound just as crazy and desperate as the people you are claiming are crazy and desperate. Get it together. Your Twitter account is getting to the point where it could belong to a high-schooler.
If you are so confident in your tech, let that do the talking for you. Right now, you sound like a desperate kid trying to convince an ex why they should stay with you. Grow up and handle your business.
Where's the "update?" What exactly did we learn here? All they are doing is rehashing OLD information. I'm fine with that, but not with making it out to be anything more than that. Sorry, I'm not seeing the merit of these tweets. Anyone care to elaborate?
Exactly. $EPGL continues to follow this board and comment on it. They continue to talk about share price and how it's so undervalued. Instead of selling the stock to investors, they should be focusing all of their energy on selling the tech. I'm sure most of their energy already is concentrated on that, but not enough if they have time to call flippers servants. REALLY?!
I feel like ANY critical comment, no matter how valid, against EPGL is met with cynicism by the company's ardent supporters here on this board. Some of whom sometimes get just as bad as the people who post against the company.
All I know is this, in the two-plus years I've been here, none of EPGL's tweets or PRs have had any sort of direct correlation to the PPS. Sometimes we expect the price to drop, and it rises. Sometimes we expect PPS to rise after a particular PR/tweet, and it tanks. Sometimes, the PR/tweet has absolutely no impact at all.
So EPGL, riddle me this: why continue commenting on the stuff posted here, the people on it, the share price, etc etc, when you know, just as well as I do, that nothing you say will change it? NOTHING. Actions, filings, contracts. That's what will move the price. We all know it. So let's worry about those things.
In fact, if EPGL REALLY cared about longs, they wouldn't continue to try to prop the PPS up using fluff pieces. Longs are not going anywhere until dollar-land. And no PR is getting us there. So in the meantime, just let the PPS do what it does, and if it tanks, so be it. Us longs would damn sure love to add to our positions at lower levels.
All this is IMO, my $0.02, etc etc.
In addition to PwC, methinks EPGL has another suitor lined up, who is backing this "breakup" and who would be willing to bankroll EPGL's litigation, if it comes to that. Just my opinion.
Ohhh, ok. Gotcha
Correct, but the fact that they (COO) filed/submitted the PR themselves is still huge.
Ok, now THIS is huge! EPGL has been PUBLICLY acknowledge by one of its partners for the FIRST time!
$EPGL
WOW! More of the same. In what world is rehashing old information a "major update PR release"?!?!
They did say release or release(s) so let's see if they put out anything else....
THERE IS NO FEBRUARY 30TH EPGL!
Woooo!! Back in the mid-4's! Good tweeting EPGL!
Yup. Put up or shut up. I know all these development agreements are keeping people around. But if nothing comes of them, then what? In all honesty, they should have kept quiet about the reduction and just did it behind the scenes. Then once they had reduced an actual significant amount, put a PR out about it. I don't know if that would have actually worked, but just a thought. That's called action. We need more of that.
I'm not going anywhere, still holding for long-term growth. But I can't say morale with me and people I introduced to EPGL isn't getting lower by the day.
And it's not just up to MH. If at any time PwC decides not to retire shares, we're back to square one. MH is not going to retire shares without PwC matching.
Yes it is, but there is literally nothing saying that it WILL happen. There is no legal, binding contract. I want to trust MH, I have for the past 2 years, but every time we expect some big news, it doesn't pan out.
I'm in the same boat as you. Pretty disappointed. Just holding on for any of these development agreements to come to fruition.
Just got posted. Basically they (MH and AJW/PwC) will retire 50mill shares COMBINED per month as long as they see fit. No legal obligation or formal contact signed.
"Have the best day ever!!!"
I don't think so, but I sure do home so. They'll probably discuss the share reduction and future moves.
Ok, I retract my statement a little bit. I took opthalmic as just contact lenses instead of the whole industry. That industry is a lot bigger. But currently sitting at around $30bn according to dpaul007's post. Still a long way to go. Let's see what happens.
Look, I'm not just making things up to hate. Yes, it's only that big. But I'm sorry, I quoted the 2010 number thinking it was the latest. In 2013 the market was $7.6 billion. Here's the source: http://www.clspectrum.com/articleviewer.aspx?articleid=109320
EDIT: These numbers are pertaining to the contact lens market. The entire opthalmic market is around $30bn. Was an oversight on my part.
I'm a long-term shareholder like you. You can see my post history. Been here for about 18 months now. But I feel like as a shareholder, I should question the statements the company makes and see if they have any validity.
Again, these are just my opinions. I'm not pessimistic, just cautiously optimistic.
An opthalmic market of $100 BILLION?! Seems like a stretch to be honest. Current GLOBAL contact lens industry sits at around $6.1 billion. Even with diagnostic lenses, augmented reality lenses, etc, seems like a very large, arbitrary number. But I'm no expert. Just my opinion.
I don't see anything new posted there.
Really? Where did you get that information from? Honestly wondering.
I'll take $5/share no problem. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Lol
The agreement could affect the filing of the Form 10 by making it disappear altogether in the case of a buyout.
I still believe in the company long-term. I just feel like we're not going to hit .10 any time soon, let alone .25 or .70.
All the flighty people will bolt and sell off like last time. If we go to .03, fine by me. It'll suck, but at least I'll be able to buy more.
Looks like we're headed back to 0.03-0.04
Where did they say it is postponed?
Underwhelming. Read the disclosure. They have made an initial agreement and still in talks. No details disclosed. None coming anytime soon. They also asked shareholders not to contact them or Intel about it. Hmmmm....
NEW TWEET!! IT'S INTEL!!!!
I know we get anxious when the price doesn't go up (preferably everyday), but I'm glad the price is just holding steady prior to the news. That means there are no buy on hype/sell on news types coming in and causing unnecessary price fluctuations like last time. I'd rather we hold steady until the news comes out and then have people who really want to invest come in and start buying.
You're right. However, Qualcomm is headquartered in San Diego. After looking it up, I learned that they have R&D facilities in the Bay Area too, so I included that as a 'clue' in order to not eliminate them from the list of possible partners.
Really seems that way. $100bn+ company on the NASDAQ is nothing to sneeze at. These are some of the candidates: Cisco, Qualcomm, Amazon, Intel, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, and Apple. Some people on this board, including myself, are 99% sure it's one of those.
The announcement was originally going to be on the 28th. Then they moved it up to the 21st. However, this morning (or late last night) they announced that the announcement will happen by the 28th. So basically back to its original date.
My money is on QCOM, CSCO, or INTC. Not Google or Apple. The first three are better positioned to research and further develop EPGL technologies.
QCOM and INTC each have DECADES of experience developing and manufacturing semiconductors, which I feel would be important when trying to develop nanotech.
Meanwhile, CSCO is running a huge Internet of Things campaign: http://internetofeverything.cisco.com/
EDIT: Oh and they all have R&D facilities in the Bay Area.
Just my 2 cents
Some of the big names listed on the NASDAQ with a market cap of over $100B: Cisco, Qualcomm, Amazon, Intel, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, and Apple. ANY of those is a HUGE deal for EPGL.