Good point! I did not go that deep but if that's the statement he made, I hope that any authority looks into this and maybe even stops this new scam early enough!

Their next scam is on. From ZNBR to Gold Torrent and now involving Miranda Gold. Enjoy the ride and watch how they trick themselves into deep pockets by promising and promising and failing.

Ready to gamble and lose? Watch Gold Torrent and Miranda teaming up and start promising a great future and pulling money from your pocket. A pure playball with few winners. Probably not you unless you see it coming and you know hot to play the game. Don't make people like Hart and Kunz from Gond Torrent get away like they did with Zinco do Brasil.

There we go. The next scam is ready to run. Miranda is their 'target' and soon all the promises are starting over again. Investors be warned. This is a pure playball and for sure the winner's names are ORR, HART AND KUNZ. The market is the cssino and you are the fool who will most likely use if you take them by their word.

The moment they feel less monitored or when money starts getting tight they will go for the next bust.

And hopefully get busted big time.

In the fantasy of Mr Hart. He will make believe people in the existence of huge opportunities. Then he pulls the money out of their pockets Houdini-style and keeps living the good life without bothering about the dirt and fake promises he leaves behind.

So? Do you think you found a gold mine? This stock is dead but hey, the guys who ran this scam are now at Gold Torrent. Buy there if you want to be part of a game an loose money.

It would be nice but more probably Mr Hart will find new playgrounds and crash this company. After cleaning up he resigned and now the company will end up in coma and slowly fall into insolvency.

Well done Mr Hart! May someone make you pay for this scam.

Best comment of the board of all times. Sad but true. I wish those backers had the greatness to admit they were wrong just as I promised I would admit it if I was wrong...

It's on their page. Very discreet. They probably hoped it would be missed if they don't release it through the usual channels.

Nice job Mr Hart and Orr!

"Zinco do Brasil announces recission of agreement with IMS and resignation of directors."

Any questions? I keep wishing that the originators of this mess will pay big time.

The news will be empty promises (with keywords like 'excited to announce', 'new investors', 'soon' and so on) and anyone who seriously will make money on it are purely and only those guys who run this next scam. They are the ones who ran ZNBR into the ground and CEACD as next. If you are in it for playing, go for it but rest assured that you are investing in lukewarm air, nothing else.

I wish Hart and Orr would pay more than just loosing this worthless shell. I wish that they could be sued just as any other scamer in this world.

Bid at 1.5 and Ask at 3! I wouldn't be surprised if they communicate "exciting news" soon and an "investor buying in at 1.50", the very same limit they announced at ZNBR at the time. I wouldn't be surprised if directors from ZNBR suddenly appear on this share too. Directors to make some more free bucks and shareholders hoping to cover the losses from the last scam. Be warned: keep your hands off!

So? They are simply vetting their next scam and I am sure they will find fools to pull money out of their pockets for a golden package of nothing. Keep your hands off this share.

That's what so called specialists and those directors and boardmembers whant you to think so they can keep pulling money out of it. Look at the pattern of behavior of these guys and keep your fingers from this share unless you feel social and want to support an obvious criminal lifestyle.

Too bad that the guilty ones don't really pay for it. I bet they could still make money on their shares because they got them for free. Too bad.

In the 8k of Feb 5 2013 you will find a Frost Gamma Corp converting at 0.0001 at the basis of 1.50.

There is no Frost Gamma Corp and I wonder if they simply used a similar name for their advantage.

Unfortunately you will not find any prove that these guys said that Frost owns stock. They simply announced that an 'Institutional Investor' onboarded. The rest is blow-up gossip. At the same time they announced that in Q3 and 4 they expect to prove reserves to 43-101 standard.

NOTHING.

rotfl and bsmeter mentioned him in 2013. rotfl even mentioned an 8k with Frost. I quote user rotfl:

'his name is Dr Phillip Frost a Wallst winner that is a shareholder at $1.50 per share among other funds that converted debt to equity at $1.50 according to this 8k.I'm impressed.rotfl'

Empire1 you couldn't be more wrong about these scams and I wonder what your motivation is to protect these guys and those worthless shares. Again: bring facts, WHY these are good investments.

We are waiting and listening but know that nothing is coming. Zero.

Still, the only thing these guys produced is nothing but worthless and only assured a constant flow of promises followed by money for themselves. Zero added value. AGAIN: Investors keep off, go to Vegas. Your chances are higher there and at least if you loose, you had a good time.

He may be another basher but he is mentioning another name. This is not about liking ZNBR or not, it's about making sure that people are warned from scams. Thanks to internet the chances are big that people keep off more and more from obvious scams and dry out undeserved sources of money for these guys. If you don't like these statements, please bring positive FACTS which is something not one single supporter was ever able to bring up.

In case you haven't noticed: they have started their next scam on Celldonate, now becoming a specialist in Gold as it seems. What a joke.

...there we have the kick-off for the next scam. Investors beware! This is a pure playball, no fundamental value and purely for financing the lifes of people like Me Hart involved. It wouldn't be a surprise if suddenly 'good and promising news' are published, all pointing out the 'expertise of industry-veterans' who are onboarding. At the end -after a rollercoaster ride- there will be nothing but loss for those who hoped finding a gem.

Unless you are willing to play a game which you most probably loose, go to Vegas and play there. Chances to win are higher and it's much more fun than loosing here.

Why should any member leave? Orr and Hart will keep pretending that the really try. The others own lots of shares and have nothing to loose by staying till the bitter end: who knows, maybe there is some fool who believes in future promises and pays the fantasy-price of 1.50 which would make those people rich just by letting them use their names.

Also, look at the ask-price of their next scam called Celldonate. It suddenly went down. Somebody trying to flush to get some liquidity? These are signs and it wouldn't surprise if there is a new attempt to artificially blow up ZNBR with hot worthless air.

Hart and Orr are those involved from the very beginning. That's the reason. All others are just as guilty for this scam but if you look at the fact that Hart is the one who started this one, made all of the 'promising' outlooks and statements while all other so called directors almost never made a statement. Where is Mr Kunz, the supposed CEO since last year? Did he ever really start to work? Also, the very same Mr Hart is leading in the next scam called Celldonate. This is why their names are mostly mentioned. If you make some calls, try with Mr Hart first and listen to his 'explanations'. Then -given the fact that you seem well connected and feel like threatening those who speak the truth- look out for phonenumbers of upset investors. Wait! No need. Just look at the share-price. Where dit it go below the line? To almost ZERO.

This us why anyone who supports this share without proven facts is simply put part of the dirty game.

NOT. Whatever is on the way is just another attempt to fool people, so relax, sit back and watch rollercoaster ZINCO with a clear final destination. DOWN.

100 shares pull it down 15% any questions?

Funny thing, right? Such good news and no move? Bid 0.17, ask 0.20? Where are the signals? The only signal here is: keep your hands off if you hope to invest in something beefy. Play with it it and make money if you know how to milk a worthless share in coma with a scam-management.

Nice news but the pattern remains so keep avoiding this scam! Why else would they have tried to artifically push the share a few days ago if they knew that they have these news? As a conclusion the best part ot this release is the following paragraph because it grants 'innocence of the management' in case of failure (which is a sure thing):

Certain statements in this news release are forward-looking statements. Words such as "expects", "intends", "plans", "planned", "proposes", "may", "could", "should", "anticipates", "estimates", "likely", "possible", "potential", "believes" and words of similar import may identify forward-looking statements. Such statements are based on management's and the Company's independent mining consultant's current expectations, estimates and projections about the companies' businesses, are not guarantees of future performance and involve certain risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. Actual results could vary materially from the description contained herein due to many factors beyond the control of the Company, including, but not limited to, the successful completion of the merger; the combined company's ability to raise the required additional capital to develop its mining
assets and to identify other acquisition and/or joint venture opportunities in the mining sector, and to establish the technical and managerial infrastructure necessary to take advantage of, and successfully participate in, such opportunities; future economic conditions; demand for zinc and other minerals the company may seek to extract; political stability; and changes in governmental regulations, and financial capabilities of the Company. Additional information on risks and other factors that may affect the business and financial results of Zinco do Brasil and the combined company can be found in filings of Zinco do Brasil with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. The Company encourages any current or potential shareholder to read all the public filings before making a decision to invest in the shares of any public company.

You seem to realize too late that on this one you will loose. Try it. Try to sell high volume and start crying.

You wish. Fact is that at the end of the day you will loose and your confidence will be down the drain together with this scam.

What makes you say that? This is going nowhere else than down at the end. Read the posts and don't mind the backers. This is a scam and nothing else.

Sure! Even more! Ask Mr Hart and Mr Kunz! The will give you tons of shares - sorry I mean reasons why you should invest now and make them rich. Just forget about the hope of ROI. Your return will be a smile and a number of excuses why they failed. Everyone else is responsible for failure but them.

He is Swiss American with a 'banking and investment carreer' which I highly doubt it was a carreer but rather spending time in bank and learning how to pull it off. It seems that he lives in the US after leaving burned grounds in both, Switzerland and Turkey.

I disagree about him 'having no clue'. much more it is obvious that he had and still has a masterplan in pulling money out of investors-pockets more or less directly for his living-costs. A little Ponzi-Scheme, smart enough to make it grow slowly and make it last longer. May he be caught soon.

Up 40% on small volume is what should worry you, unless you are the one trading and building the pattern. Again and in clear word: Investors keep off this one and any other investment where Mr Hart and Orr are involved. Chances are high to loose all you bring.

Just as in some other occasions being right can be a sad thing. It's not a victory but rather a bitter win and the the cause for the pain has not been erased. Worse! Probably they just found another rathole to poison. I wish there could be done more to stop these cheaters.