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So what's with the big volume this morning???
Some 240K shrs and the markets only been open for 2 hrs.
Today's news release has some of the strongest statements ever made by Gregg about the bright future for QSEP. Its actually quite exciting to hear him say that now is a financial "perfect storm" for QSEP's parallel
strategies of commercialization and acquisition.
A very feel good message to be sure.
What do you need to acquire other companies? A good story and what could be more compelling than the story told by the AOL and JH. After all, we all bought into the story so why wouldn't a banker sitting on a ton of dough that he doesn't know what to do with.
Gregg's a banker remember so he knows what makes the lenders get in line to throw money at exciting new investment ideas. All they have to do is visit
Earth1's incredible website cleanoiltech.com (may not be exactly right) and go over his ROI calculations and they will all be lining up to throw money at this thing.
We just had to get rid of the goofy name. Now the dominos can begin to fall and I ain't talkin' about pizza.
How can Gregg talk about taking advantage of "these drastically undervalued assets"? One could argue that QS Energy is a drastically undervalued asset. So how can QS Energy inc. even mention a strategy of corporate acquisitions unless....WHAT?
Unless its about to sign a deal that will produce enough income to significantly increase its credit rating to such an extent that it can borrow enough money to make these deals.
So then ask yourself what kind of deals must be in the offing to even think about buying other companies? The answer is BIG ONES.
On another note, how could a CEO of any pipeline company go to his Board of Directors or stockholders and say with a straight face "gentlemen what do you say we invest a couple hundred million in a company called "Save the World Air". The shareholders and the Board members are going to think he's been smoking the same marijuana as the nut jobs that named their company Save the World Air.
STWA was a cute, whimsical, almost tongue in cheek moniker that hindered rather than helped get this company up and on its feet. Again, Thanks Gregg.
Tedco, seriously? How many people have you talked to about AOT and JH technology and then when they ask for the name of the company they look at you like its some kind of a joke?
Image is everything in many cases and to be taken seriously, in a serious market space you need to have a serious name.
QS Energy is awesome, especially when someone then asks what QS stands for and Greg says "Quick Strike" which then opens the conversation about being a Navy Seal and all that serious mission intensive focus and success.
Go Gregg. Changing the name and your choice for the name shows some real business and marketing savvy and I like that.
The 10Q is really quite disappointing because it would appear that the AOT and JH are not simply plug and play systems. I think our expectations in that regard were way out of whack. Now it would appear that each system may need to be custom made which may stretch out the "shake down" period more than we would like. It does sound like there are still projects that are on-going which is encouraging although the lack of any news re: TC is disconcerting. Nobody said this was going to be easy money although I think we all thought it would be easier that this.
How can we be up 10% without any volume? What is going on?
Whacky,
I'll see your one trifurcation and raise you one quatrafurcation.
The bifurcated growth plan shows that Gregg needs to build his supply chain and infrastructure. This makes sense. If TC or Kinder like what they see with AOT and JH their second big concern must be to STWA: "Can you make the stuff, how fast and can you guarantee quality"?
I think that's where we are now. STWA as a company has to go from 5 or 6 guys sitting in a small office on State St. to a company that can manufacture, deliver, install and service large pieces of capital equipment. This is going to take money.
Yes, its important that AOT and JH work. These other considerations are equally important and represent the next hurdle.
Wow! Thanks to all for the great response. I was kind of hoping that maybe by shaking the tree the nut that dropped off might own up to their heinous misdeed. We could root out the culprit by cross checking the list but might as well not kick a dead dog.
Usually it seems that when the MM's are dropping the share price by tenths of a penny at the end of the day some angel of mercy executes a buy order to get the stock back to where it started the day. Friday that didn't happen.
Over the 10 years I've been involved with this thing the lowest price I can
remember seeing was $.18. I wish I was a buyer at that price or better I wish I was a seller when it was $.70.
Now all I can do is sit on my hands to keep from punching myself in the head,
Down 6% on over 100K shrs traded means we lost one of our longs.
Who sold? We need to have a roll call of longs that are still in this thing if for no other reason than misery loves company.
I am Flubug and I am IN.
So what happened. I haven't read anything of any significance.
Very few attendees. No announcements. Basically a total non-event that only occurred because of some governmental regulation. Fantastic.
Now what happens. A huge run for the door on the opening early Monday?
A stock price at 20 or below. (in the last 10 years the low was around $.18).
Will there be any kind of press release? Anything??????
I thought the SHM was a one day event> It should be over now and yet we hear nothing.
What's up with that!
whacky, I nearly crapped my pants when I saw the satellite view of the AOT in KS on the Keystone pipeline last year. It was awesome. I'll keep looking for the JHS in Utah, after all its kind of like mining for gold.
I've been looking around the Uintah Basin in UT on Google maps to see if
anything looks like an STWA evaluation installation. There appears to be a few sporadic oil well pumps in the area but no "White Pipes" can be seen.
Google probably only updates these photos/maps once every six months so we are probably not looking at anything recent.
Does anyone have the exact coordinates of the site?
Zerosum, i'm not trying to be a basher. Far from it. I want to believe all of the positive rhetoric just like all the other longs.
Yes, we know it works at the laboratory level and yes we know it works at the RMOTC level (single prototype aot). I just remember reading some very disturbing language regarding the TC results that had something to do with it not being a well defined experiment and that the metrics were not consistent.
Sure the AOT works in the lab and the back end of a manifold on 4-AOT's although this has to be qualified by saying with the proper power supply.
I don't think anyone knows yet whether the AOT is a total solution for a lengthy pipeline with 30 - 50 pumping stations and will provide cost savings to any measurable degree. TC certainly doesn't seem to think so or we would have a contract by now.
I think the TC evaluation was a quickie shot in the dark that didn't produce truly definitive data to show true success. What i think was learned was that you just can't slap 1, 4, or 6 AOT units and expect a maximum result. i think much was learned about other factors that contribute or interfere with the desired result. said another way, I think the TC eval. was a badly conceived experiment that produced ambiguous results. no pipeline company is going to spend the money to improve flow until they know exactly the mechanism involved that makes that improvement.
More importantly, they are not going to risk there current performance parameters with a new technology until they are 110% sure they know scientifically what is going on to make the improvement in flow happen.
Saying that they used the wrong power supply may be just a cover-up for a bunch of other things that may have happened that weren't expected or desired.
I saw an e-mail in my In box this morning from SWTA and got a little excited. I thought this was going to be the day.
Just another research report that you boys can dissect and discuss ad infinitum, ad nauseum until the next message.
I guess its good news which is good. Not great but good.
Jaymark,
I have been invested Zero for about 10 years. There have been ups and downs but over time but the Zero story has gotten better and better. Because hindsight is always 20-20 the ideal strategy would have been to have cash at the ready and just wait for the big day and hope that when the market opens early that morning that your order gets filled at a reasonable price.
The stress of worrying about getting in at that point and not missing out is greater than owning the stock and watching "the paint dry". Yes I could have used that money to make money elsewhere over these past 10 years but luckily we have other investments that are doing well. This is "Mad Money" that feeds my infatuation with gambling and gives me something to daydream about.
My friends all laugh at me and well they should until.........
There is one very obvious reason why Gregg Biggers is holding the SHM in Hawaii at an expensive resort. He knows that he is going to be making a significant announcement between now and then that is going to move the stock significantly. I mean if you are going to hold a party are you going to do it at 37 State St. in Santa Barbara or do it up big at one of the toniest resorts in the Hawaiian islands? Seriously????
I think Gregg understands that most of us have spent every last expendable nickel we have to accumulate as much ZERO stock as we possibly can and that the only way we can make it to Hawaii is if this investment appreciates significantly. It would kinda be like rubbing our noses in it if he and the board go to Kapalua while the rest of who are paying for their trip can't afford to be there.
I don't think he is another Koslowski type guy or whoever the asshole was who ran Tyco into the ground and got convicted of financial malfeasance.
I'm betting that Gregg is setting the stage for the big celebration.
I hope I'm right otherwise no Hawaii for me.
I've said this before and I still think its a valid argument. The problem Gregg is having in getting a bonafide Purchase Order is that there may not be a precedent for this kind of purchase. The problem is not the purchase price of the hardware or even the technology as long as its a one time expense. What the pipeline companies absolutely do not want to do is couple future savings with a never ending expense. My feeling is that STWA should be paid a percentage of the savings the pipeline company enjoys on each and every barrel of crude that gets shipped through a pipeline outfitted with AOT technology. The out of pocket expense of the hardware and installation can be written off in a relatively short time especially with the money being saved on each barrel shipped. A royalty payment lasts forever and that's where the hang up is in the negotiations.
Just sayin'.
Why was there not an 8K form filed for the KM lease?
I've asked this before and Ill ask it again: Is STWA making any money on the evaluation KM is doing on an AOT in Texas? Why has there been no
word on any kind of money changing hands like we saw with the TC deal?
Did I miss something?
My apologies if my timelines and facts aren't exactly correct but those of us that have been around for a while will know what I mean.
Something like two years ago, right before the first SHM the price of this stock was up around $1.80 or so. Everyone was excited that Cecil was going to make a big announcement and the stock price soared. In actuality there was very little concrete evidence that the AOT actually worked at this point. Yes there were the lab tests by Dr. Rao and the field tests from the RMOTC on a prototype and maybe some rumors of success from China but that was it. And yet the stock price hit a high of $1.80.
Then the Seeking Alpha article hit and the price dropped and we haven't seen anything close to $1.80 since.
Why is this so when we now have so much solid evidence that the AOT works and will someday be a huge success. If you compare how little we knew at $1.80 to how much we now know why is the stock still below $.45.
All you have to do is read any of the 10.000 posts by Zerosum or Zerosnoop to review the laundry list of accomplishments achieved over the past year to realize we would appear to be on much more solid ground than we did two years ago and yet.....
We even have a web page authored by Earth 1 that can even make the totally blind to see if it is to be believed. I just don't get it!
Uplisting, new products, invitations to speak at national forums, leasing deals with huge pipeline companies and all the rest and still
our stock price can't break the 50 cent barrier. WTF y'all.
Inspiration 1 and Earth 1 thank you for the awesome analysis in dropbox.
My question is this: If potential valuation of the company is 1.7 to 1.9
billion and the float on the stock is 180 million shares what would the price per share be given a reasonable price to earnings ratio?
I find the posts contemplating what will happen the day the contract(s) are announced to be quite fascinating. I think there is a huge volume of buyers just waiting for the legitimacy of STWA to be secured by real purchase orders. I agree that only an idiot would sell immediately after such announcements are made making supply and demand issues rule the pps. Because there is no stock to be had relatively speaking, the price will soar. Is it possible at that point for us to see a 5 to 1 stock split?
Price immediately goes to $10, go 5 to 1 taking float from 180 million to
800 million and price back down to $2.00/shr.
Is this realistic or impossible?
Seeking Alpha has a blog titled, "Today's Articles on Energy Stocks".
A section of this dedicated to pipelines and the service industry. We saw a couple years ago how a negative article can effect the stock price so now lets see what a positive article can do.
Quality Stocks - Get something from Earth1 on the Seeking Alpha website!!!
WHY HAVE WE NOT SEEN ANY FINANCIAL INFORMATION ON THE KINDER-MORGAN DEAL!!!
ARE THEY MAKING ANY LEASE PAYMENTS OR WHAT? IS THERE A BUY-OUT CLAUSE?
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?
Article this morning in the LA Times gives a nice overview of where the Keystone XL pipeline is currently with regard to passage. The last sentence of the article states that the Republicans are going to try and attach it to an appropriations bill that will make it hard for Obama to veto.
So the Keystone XL is still very much alive. Imagine if the AOT became part of the conversation. I think it could be straw that stirs the cocktail regarding this very important issue.
Read the article as it provides a nice history and makes one wonder what would happen if everyone in Congress could read Earth1's explanantion of Dr. Tao's paper. I think it provides a win-win solution for legislators on both sides of the aisle.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-keystone-qanda-20150307-story.html#page=1
Ryan Zeinke needs to get the game changing benefits of the AOT onto the floor of the US House of Representatives ASAP. GO RYAN!!!!!!!!
Earth1, thanks again ever so much for your explanations of what is really happening in the pipelines and the benefits of the AOT. I don't know what you do for a living but Quality Stocks should hire you as a consultant to help them make their press releases more poignant and to get that salivation you mentioned in your previous message really going.
Earth1 Thank you for coming out and taking ownership of the drop box article. I find it very interesting to hear that there are two reactions to the electric field in play using the AOT. One reduces friction and the other promotes laminar flow. Early on, it was postulated that the process taking place at the nano-molecular level was the alignment of the long chain hydrocarbons along the line of flow to reduce viscosity. Then we heard it was do to reduced surface area by clumping. It sounds to me like both things are happening. Clumping and molecular alignment. Wouldn't you agree?
Who authors the review of Tao's paper that appears in Drop Box?????
and is referenced in the previous post?
It is KILLER!!!!
Maybe someone can help with with this question. I remember seeing the announcement regarding the Kinder Morgan test/evaluation down in Texas.
I also remember Gregg saying in his letter to the shareholders soemthing to the effect that the template for the financial structuring lend/lease deals had been put in place.
I don't remember ever seeing anything about any revenues being generated from the deal with Kinder Morgan. Did I miss something?
Whacky
I remember well the bamboo analogy. It would seem to be coming true in the respect that many many things are happening unbeknownst to us above ground.
The roots are spreading everywhere. That first sprout to break the surface will be our first order and then bamboo everywhere.
The aspect I like best is that bamboo is an extremely invasive and prolific plant that is almost impossible to stop once it takes root.
Its pretty clear the roots are there just waiting to break surface.
Regarding Gregg's comment about performance being increased from 8% to 50% using the AOT, if my memory serves me correctly the 8% number came from the very first field test at the Department of Energy's testing facility over in Wyoming. This was done on a prototype unit and everyone was overjoyed at that time with the 8% number.
My assumption would be that the 50% number Gregg mentioned came from
TC's Keystone site in Kansas using an advanced version.
OMG CAN WE PLEASE STOP POSTING THE SHAREHOLDER'S LETTER!!!
Zerosum stop! We got the point the 20th time you sent it out.
Here's an idea. Nobody posts anything unless its NEW information.
Its good to see that Gregg realized that communication with the stockholders was inadequate. Its also good to see that he decided to do something about it. I don't know anything about QS but I think its safe to say that these kinds of things happen for a reason and Gregg decided that it was time to increase STWA's communications capability with its stockholders....for a reason. Again you don't increase your exposure to put out bad news. I look at today's announcement as only a positive thing and await more good news in the near future.
It seems like our next bit of hard news will be the 10K STWA files for Q4 of 2014. Does anyone have a feel for when this might come out? Depending on what it says there will probably also be a message from Gregg and/or the company along with it.
Zero321,
Are you still out there?? Please respond. It would be very timely
if you could find your way out to the Udall site and see if the AOT is still there and working.
We have so little other tangible evidence to go by so seeing what is happening out on the Keystone might help calm some nerves...or not.
Article in this mornings NY Times addresses the political aspects facing
President Obama regarding the Keystone XL Pipeline.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/10/us/keystone-pipeline-nebraska-supreme-court-transcanada.html?hpw&rref=us&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well
SHL468,
Great article!!!! If the Dow hadn't lost over 300 points today I'm sure we would have had an UP day. As it was we gained 1/10 of a penny on over a quarter of a million shares traded.
Not bad given the circumstances. I am so excited about what is about to happen.