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Looks like Bausch& Laumb are eating all those cocktail weenies. Glad I’ll be invited to the next event.
Judy, Viking was making the following point:
When he posts assertions, with links to PRs, Tweets, filings, patent applications with joint signatures, etc. some will simply call it false without any evidence. While I recognize that at this point the burden of proof is on EPGL, many wild statements are thrown around without any evidence at all, just mere speculation. So Viking just did what many others do all the time here. Make statements without anything to back it up, or using old news. A great example is the latest patent discussion. EPGL told us that one of their patent filings had an issue because it should have been filed as 3 separate patents. They said they were adjusting fire based on the opinion and thought it was good news. Months later, we hear the sky is falling, this won't get approved etc, but no evidence. There are patent applications with EPGL and COO joint signatures and PR that says both EGPL and COO will address "ongoing prosecution of several related joint patent applications" which means on some level they are still working together. Instead we hear, without evidence that the relationship has been severed.
Viking was making a simple point. What's good for one should be good for the other.
Interesting turn...perhaps it's because they know they'll be blocked by EPGL/ COO if they can't find another way to power their lenses.
News flash, COO and EPGL have been filing joint patents. Newbies beware, people want your shares at a discount.
How many of IBMs 85,000 patents are for technologies that are licensed to other companies? How many of those patents are for products that IBM doesn't license, but sells as IBM products or components? If you really want to educate investors, please tell us how how many of those patents are actually involved in licensing deals. Maybe then we can make a well informed decision.
Why did Facebook buy oculus for $2billion? Why is Twitter worth $18.39 billion? The patent is more about validating the technology and the licensing deals then determining epgls value. Multiple patent approvals and licensing deals will attract bigger invedtors, period.
Thank you for educating us, altruism is a lost virtue in this country.
Franck read the post he was responding too, it's bad news for MMs.
Coopers name is on the patent application...how much more public do you want? Remember, disclosing a deal with a pinksheet company does nothing for Cooper. No benefit for them at all. So why would they disclose anything for EPGL shareholder benefit before they're ready to release a product?
I wonder what guru Nostradumas would say about shorts returning to EPGL. I bet the guru is laughing all the way to the local bank shorting this company himself. Maybe the guru could go to the AT&T labs and ask about EPGL, the guru is from Austin, the labs are in Austin, how sublime.
Yes, but it should first and foremost have shareholders best interest at mind. So if revealing information that is part of an NDA in a development agreement, or talking about ongoing negotiations are what shareholders are concerned about, then no, they shouldn't listen to us. We are small
Investors here. I think Gman might have the most shares, I have peanuts at 2.5 million. Unless PWC is asking the question I think EPGL should be prudent on what, how and when they answer us.
1. Would you put something in your heart that's an electric chip? Wait, it's called a pacemaker and people do it all the time. And last time I checked, our entire body has an electrical system - it's called the nervous system, guess some people occasionally de lip shorts.
2. Google glass is failed, because it looks ridiculous. Seriously, who would wear that? Also, ever spend a day wearing ur glasses instead of your contacts? Causes eye strain, headaches, etc. can't imagine looking through that little display all day.
3. I'm a 3rd level connection on LinkedIn with Michael Hayes, and his picture is posted. In one of their annual reports they disclosed approximately 20 employees, like google glass searching for that on my phone makes my eyes hurt.
4. Twitter history hurtful? Awwwwwwwwwww. How about the unverified things said against EPGL? Are those hurtful?
5.i agree, PPS talk shouldn't be important; however, if I was the CEO anything under .10 would irk me as well.
6. Haven't flipped a dime in 3 years, had to sell a few due to life circumstances. Funny thing is that about 270 long shareholders meet elsewhere, with real names and faces and we don't flip.
7. How is a signed development agreement a one time informal deal? Again a SIGNED development agreement with NDAs and a joint patent applucation.
Public profiles are all over the place. Noah Kaufman is even on TV. A little DD would be great.
I'd love to respond to you rebuttal but I get one post a day. Have a good one.
Hahahahahahahaha im using my one post of the day to respond because this is hilarious. DARPA doesn't exist? That's amazing. As I type this I am literally sitting across the street from DARPA in Arlington, VA at the ballston commons mall. I'm drinking a beer at happy hour in rock bottom brewery. Please, if you're going to discredit EPGL, use a little logic.
We're down today, but we're up from 2 weeks ago. We continue to talk about EPGL like a legitimate company, but we want it to skyrocket like a P&D - I don't understand. Sure, I wish this was at .25 right now, or $1, but I'm happy we're higher than last week.
I agree that until we see confirmation of licensing and dollar amounts this won't take off. Did EPGL promise more than what they gave us in the PR? No, they delivered exactly what they said.
Everyone needs to look closer at what this PR means:
They essentially developed a charging station that they have shown works with electronic lenses. That means they had to prove it with an existing (working) electronic lens. Do you think Google or Novartis would let them test drive one of their lenses so a competitor can develop a dock for it? And then the next thing that comes to mind is holy s$@!?, they developed a way to charge a soft electronic contact, while its immersed in its saline solution, and provide data transfer, just like my smart phone. Seriously?! That ridiculous if true.
If I had to make a wager right now, EPGL and Cooper own the lens jointly with a few other technologies. The copper lenses probably are superior for imbedding technology, maybe even durability. Cooper doesn't have the money too buy exclusive rights to sell these things. I bet Cooper and EPGL are jointly offering licensing deals to other companies so they can both make money from pending patents.
Meanwhile, EPGL is looking to license other tech they've developed in the garage (ehem docking station) independently to companies that will need it, Novartis.
In the other bay of the EPGL garage you have AT&T working on things like biomems sensors over large networks. Perhaps monitoring vital signs of Athletes in games and providing real time threat analysis for concussions, heat stroke, hear attacks - this would have saved the NFL tons of money in lawsuits. AT&T is probably chomping at the bit to develop a way to stream real time vitals to military commanders in the field about soldiers vitals, or heads up displays in contacts that allow switching from day, to night vision and IR. perhaps range finders and targetry analysis, and even a way to keep track of friendly forces so there's less friendly fire incidents - kinda like the little radar thing in Medal of Honor that tells u where people are.
Bottom line people...relax. Either this is real, or the biggest scam ever. I'm voting on the real side.
So a jointly filed patent application with Cooper is fluff? Seriously?! Please name another Pinksheet trading at .05 that has their name on a joint patent application with a company the size of Cooper. Still waiting...
And since I know you're going to ask, I have 2.5 m shares. Go EPGL, with my one post for the day.
It's because people still don't believe this is real. Look at all of our new friends on this board. They still think this is the typical pinksheet scam. PR with forward looking statements about possible deals, sell shares, deal evaporates, and everyone else is holding the bag. People fail to realize that too many big names are involved for that to be the case here. AT&T, Cooper, PWC, if this was a scam you would have to shoot for lower companies (less well known) to pull this off. Many people invested here just aren't connecting all the dots, either because they don't want to, or because they've been burned and are now jaded. It's not possible for a stock to go from .002 to $1 + in 6 years for many investors. It's like winning the lottery and it just can't happen in many peoples' opinion unless of course it's a P&D.
You're absolutely correct - news has been out for AT&T and Cooper for awhile. It's interesting how neither company has denied what EPGL says and Cooper even filed a joint patent application with EPGL (unless you think that the patent application was forged). Silence speaks volumes.
You mean leave COO, right? Last time I checked these were joint patent filings, not just EPGL. It's naive to think EPGL isn't performing when COO is wasting resources to secure this technology.
Actually you're incorrect. 35 USC 18 dictates the authority that the federal government has to hold patent applications secret if an invention is considered a possible threat to national security. Notice how it allows certain agencies, OSD, Atomic energy, etc to review applications for potential threats to national security, and allows the federal government to keep these secret for up to a year at a time without having to be reviewed? It also talks about patents that are co devoloped with federal agencies. What it does not say is whether accompany can choose to keep an application secret when it has nothing to do with national security. No where does it say patent applications can "only be kept secret" in the case of national security. It does say that the federal government can force a company to keep their patent secret only for the purpose of national security.
And by the way, I review USC and Military regulations and policy (and help write them) for a living in DC. You might be able to blow smoke up other people's back side, but not mine.
A subpoena is not an indication of wrong doing, it's a court order to comply with a request. Any company that is under investigation will have its records subpeonad, and the records of its accountants. Just because the company did or didn't do something wrong, it doesn't mean the accountant had anything to do with it. I bet some of the largest accounting firms in the world have their records subpeonad all the time as various clients are investigated. Does that imply the accounting firm is guilty? This is an asinine argument. Show me where EPGLs accountant was convicted of something, and then I'll be worried if they don't fire him.
Thanks for the sentiment. I still have 2.5m shares, sometimes life happens. IF the price stays low I'll buy my shares back in 2 months, if not, I'll be happy that I still have a nice investment. Honestly, I hope we're at $3 a month from now. I will care less about those shares then.
Sold what I needed to. Found another long willing to buy, agreed to a price. Shares are in good hands. Tried selling higher with no bites from the market. Still have 2.5 million shares that aren't going anywhere.
Actually it will be about 300k shares, and yes he will regret it. But when you have your life savings in a stock and have 3 million shares and need some quick cash to take care of a family emergency, you don't really have a choice - unless of course you'd like to spot me $15k for 6 weeks.
Hope Monday is a good day. The right PR will send this to higher highs. There's my 1 post for the day. Go EPGL.
EPGL is a scam, Scam, SCAM aaaaaa...Liars, cheats, dirty pumping cheap POS company. Run away, everyone, SELL, SELL, SELL aaaaaaaaaaa. I lost all my money, I'm a fool, they cheated me and they'll cheat you. If you believe EPGL is a real company you must be paid by them. Aaaaaaaa our pets heads are falling off and its EPGL's fault.
Take no one's advise...not even mine. Just SELL before it's too late. I'll do you a favor and buy them from you.
EPGL.
I'm up $120k since 2012...no pump here, no flipping, just facts. Still holding. Epgl.
Ever think there's no liquidity because the longs here hold the float and just don't post on this board anymore? Hmmmm...makes you wonder.
This question has been answered many times...EPGL utilizes different university labs, including UC Irvine Microsystems lab, University of Minnesota, and now undisclosed SF Bay area research labs (which makes sense now that they are developing technology for Silicon Valley companies).
It's funny how every 6-8 months the same set of questions pop up that have been answered over and over again. I've read every post on this board since October 2012...the it has all been asked before.
And btw, the photos on the website are stock photos. Lot's of companies use them.
Very misleading that you leave out the fact that PWC chose not to liquidate EPGL, and restructure it for the sole purpose of achieving a return for AJW shareholders. The court did not appoint them to do that.
Read the Tweet again, it simply said they were filing new IP patents this week, it did not say there would be an announcement about this. I hope they don't announce what technology and patents they have or have filed for until products are ready for market. Why give away any advantage to potential competition?
EPGL
Do you know of any pinksheet companies that have deals/ agreements (regardless of terms) with a $100 billion company? Please name them for us so we can check them out.
EPGL
Yes Norman Marcus - pain Doctor, co-inventor of MPDD with the SPOC guys (stellar, hunter, lee) - Norman is not associated with EPGL, but helped develop the device.
David Markus - MEMs engineer, Raytheon, DARPA, nothing to do with MPDD, VP at EPGL.
The tweet linked to an OTC filing...did you open it? Their initial tweet said a press release "of some form" will identify the company by the 28th. OTC filing just identified the company.
The reality is that we continue to treat EPGL like a stinky pinky. We say this is a great investment, but we still focus on how the company is releasing info, because deep down we just can't believe this is real. I'd rather have EPGL release an accurate PR a few days late, even if there's a sell off, than have them pump the stock. If we believe this company is for real, then the intra day ups and downs shouldn't matter.
Problem is, EPGL didn't keep the same management. The change in the business plan came shortly after David Markus was brought on as Vice President of MEMs Development. Bringing him on board transformed the company from a "one hit wonder" (or strike out) to a company that had innovative technological know how. I believe it was spring of 2013, less than 6 months after he came on board that we learned about TopSpin, and other devices that this tech could create. In August we learned about other tech that EPGL had the ability to develop. In December we learned of the agreement and the NDA. Was it a surprise to anyone that the MPDD was a short term solution for this company moving forward, once David Markus was hired?
I will keep betting on EPGL, because other companies with excellent reputations are working with them, period. I've owned 3 stocks in my life, this is the first one i bought. It's worked out so far for me.
So for an OTC company to be valuable, people have to buy all the way up to dollars? Or does that logic only apply to EPGL?
What are you talking about? I never said it would go to $1 in one day - I said some people think it should. Just like some people think they should give details and schedules on product roll outs as soon as they announce there is a deal. It's unrealistic. But another deal with a major company, even without specifics, lends more credibility to EPGL. Will they ultimately succeed? I'm betting yes, but who knows. Are they a scam or P&D? I think that can be ruled out at this point.
I highly doubt you will get what you're asking for. Why would we get specifics on the announcement of a brand new agreement when we didn't get details on the Cooper deal that was signed in December 2013? It's unrealistic to believe we'll get details about a product when a deal has just been signed. That being said, I don't think it will negatively impact the share price - but I know there are many people on this board that think this stock should go to $1 Monday morning and don't care about what it takes to actually build a business, not pump a penny stock.
I believe this stock will eventually hit dollars. It could happen in the next year. But to believe that this next deal will announce a product rollout - well, I can almost guarantee that it won't.
I'm happy with 3m, I'm holding for dollars...don't want to be greedy.
I've got a measly 3million
So you think Cooper signed a development agreement, for the purpose of co-developing new technology, with a pinksheet company, with the ultimate goal of generating what would amount to a $5m with EPGL? Why bother?
I agree, we don't know how much this deal will be ultimately worth, not until products generate revenue, but to downplay this deal is foolish.
Have you ever been to the Embarcadero Hyatt? I've been through there during a number of conventions. This isn't like a Vegas convention or even one held at the San Diego convention center. This is a tiny room, not much bigger that what you find at a small job fair. Waste of time, especially when they were already working with Cooper. Conventions are for prospecting for business, seems like the EPGL garage managed to get some BD done without the convention.