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Fuel is amazing - Higher Octane, better fuel millage over gasoline, lower emissions and huge savings $$$ per Lit/Gal. over regular gasoline! The fuel has been pumping at select stations in Canada in a controlled environment for months. That's why no addresses yet!! Stay tuned - this is about to get real as logistics are meticulously being put in place to bring the fuel to market in a big way.
Unlimited Risk coming there way!! Longs are not selling!
Wait until the major distribution announcement comes out and investors want millions of shares! That's when all of our patience will be rewarded.
My sources say there are enough naked shorts in this stock to send it skyrocketing when news of fuel distribution hits. They ironically are going to make me and my group a lot of money!
Torque increase is one of the benefits of the additive. These Yachts will soon realize this benefit!!!
Spoken like a True Short!! We will not let you out of your positions. Low Volume or No Volume and yet you guys post all day Long!! What's up with that????
Marine market will be Huge!! Those huge Yachts use a lot of diesel fuel and anyone who has been on those boats knows about the exhaust fumes. Any reduction in emissions will be huge!
Look up the meaning of Margin Call. Foolish to Risk it over making a few pennies!!
They should have paid attention to the meaning of "Unlimited Risk" when they got their security licenses. Maybe they missed the answer to that question?
Projections can sometimes be off on the time frames - doesn't mean it isn't happening! Again, real DD indicates our patience is about to pay off!!!
We won't hear from the 3 Amigos soon as they will be dealing with Margin Calls!!
BEING SHORT = Unlimited Risk! Margin Calls coming your way!!!!
I literally had all the shares I wanted a year ago. However, if people are going to sell at these ridiculous prices - I'll pick up more. There are many just like me. Big payday coming soon. I Don't care about those on this board with alternative motives.
Another uninformed Investor! We will gladly take the shares!
Agree Motordaddy! Those of us who do real DD know what's about to happen!
You are so mistaken H-8. Go to http://emg96.com/ and read all about it. Many of us on this board have run it in our own vehicles and there have been multiple 3rd party studies done on this fuel.
Ethanol has over a Billion $ worth of subsidies each year to farmers and still no one is buying it because it is much more expensive than Gasoline for a substandard 85 octane fuel replacement for Gasoline. Anyone who does the slightest bit of DD will understand that Politics have again hurt the average American Citizens Wallet. If Methanol were to replace ethanol as an additive in the US - fuel prices would come down significantly. Meat & Poultry prices as well as all cereal & Dairy (Eggs, Milk ect..) prices would all come down and the US Gov't would save over a Billion $$$ annually in Subsidies!
Neither increases in government subsidies to corn-based ethanol fuel nor hikes in the price of petroleum can overcome what one Cornell agricultural scientist calls a fundamental input-yield problem: It takes more energy to make ethanol from corn grain than the combustion of ethanol produces.
At a time when ethanol-gasoline mixtures (gasohol) are touted as the American answer to fossil fuel shortages by corn producers, food processors and some lawmakers, Cornell's David Pimentel takes a longer range view.
"Abusing our precious croplands to grow corn for an energy-inefficient process that yields low-grade automobile fuel amounts to unsustainable, subsidized food burning," said the Cornell professor in the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences. Pimentel, who chaired a U.S. Department of Energy panel that investigated the energetics, economics and environmental aspects of ethanol production several years ago, subsequently conducted a detailed analysis of the corn-to-car fuel process. His findings will be published next month in the forthcoming Encyclopedia of Physical Sciences and Technology.
Among his findings:
* An acre of U.S. corn yields about 7,110 pounds of corn for processing into 328 gallons of ethanol. But planting, growing and harvesting that much corn requires about 140 gallons of fossil fuels and costs $347 per acre, according to Pimentel's analysis. Thus, even before corn is converted to ethanol, the feedstock costs $1.05 per gallon of ethanol.
* The energy economics get worse at the processing plants, where the grain is crushed and fermented. As many as three distillation steps are needed to separate the 8 percent ethanol from the 92 percent water. Additional treatment and energy are required to produce the 99.8 percent pure ethanol for mixing with gasoline.
* Adding up the energy costs of corn production and its conversion to ethanol, 131,000 Btu are needed to make 1 gallon of ethanol. One gallon of ethanol has an energy value of only 77,000 Btu. "Put another way," Pimentel said, "about 70 percent more energy is required to produce ethanol than the energy that actually is in ethanol. Every time you make 1 gallon of ethanol, there is a net energy loss of 54,000 Btu."
* Ethanol from corn costs about $1.74 per gallon to produce, compared with about 95 cents to produce a gallon of gasoline. "That helps explain why fossil fuels -- not ethanol -- are used to produce ethanol," Pimentel said. "The growers and processors can't afford to burn ethanol to make ethanol. U.S. drivers couldn't afford it either, if it weren't for government subsidies to artificially lower the price."
* Most economic analyses of corn-to-ethanol production overlook the costs of environmental damages, which Pimentel says should add another 23 cents per gallon. "Corn production in the U.S. erodes soil about 12 times faster than the soil can be reformed, and irrigating corn mines groundwater 25 percent faster than the natural recharge rate of ground water. The environmental system in which corn is being produced is being rapidly degraded. Corn should not be considered a renewable resource for ethanol energy production, especially when human food is being converted into ethanol," Pimentel said.
* The approximately $1 billion a year in current federal and state subsidies (mainly to large corporations) for ethanol production are not the only costs to consumers, the Cornell scientist observes. Subsidized corn results in higher prices for meat, milk and eggs because about 70 percent of corn grain is fed to livestock and poultry in the United States. Increasing ethanol production would further inflate corn prices, Pimentel said, noting: "In addition to paying tax dollars for ethanol subsidies, consumers would be paying significantly higher food prices in the marketplace."
Nickels and dimes aside, some drivers still would rather see their cars fueled by farms in the Midwest than by oil wells in the Middle East, Pimentel acknowledges, so he calculated the amount of corn needed to power an automobile:
* The average U.S. automobile, traveling 10,000 miles a year on pure ethanol (not a gasoline-ethanol mix), would need about 852 gallons of the corn-based fuel. This would take 11 acres to grow, based on net ethanol production. This is the same amount of cropland required to feed seven Americans.
* If all the automobiles in the United States were fueled with 100 percent ethanol, a total of about 97 percent of U.S. land area would be needed to grow the corn feedstock. Corn would cover nearly the total land area of the United States.
Yes, lets all watch ECSL collapse the naked shorts this week!
Methanol is a bit of a mystery. It is the simplest form of a hydrocarbon, one oxygen atom attached to simple methane molecule. Therefore, it burns. Methanol is one of the largest manufactured trading commodities after oil, and has about half the energy value of gasoline (but its high octane rating & our Additive pushes this up to 100 percent). It is a liquid at room temperature and would therefore fit right into our current gasoline infrastructure — as opposed to compressed natural gas or electricity, which require a whole new delivery system.
Methanol made from natural gas would sell for about $1 less than gasoline. Methanol can also be made from food waste, municipal garbage and just about any other organic source.
So why aren’t we using methanol in our cars? It would be the simplest thing in the world to substitute methanol for gasoline in our current infrastructure. Car engines can burn methanol with a minor $200 adjustment that can be performed by any mechanic. The savings on fuel would be significant — about $600 a year. So what’s stopping us?
Well, methanol seems to be caught in a time warp. It is the dreaded “wood alcohol” of the Depression Era. Methanol is poisonous, as opposed to (corn) ethyl alcohol, which only gets you drunk. (In fact, commercial products such as rubbing alcohol are “denatured” by adding methanol so people will not drink them.) But if methanol is poisonous, so is gasoline, as well as many, many other oil products. Yet methanol is somehow caught up in old EPA regulations that make it illegal to burn in car engines — even though it is hardly different from the corn ethanol that currently fills one-tenth of our gas tanks.
Methanol’s main feedstock is natural gas, and for a long time that was seen as a problem. “Methanol wasn’t practical because the price of natural gas was so high and we seemed to be running out of it,” said Yossie Hollander, whose Fuel Freedom Foundation has been promoting the use of methanol for some time. “But now that natural gas prices have come down, it makes perfect sense to use it to make methanol. We could do away with the $300 billion a year we still spend on importing oil.”
The EPA actually granted California an exemption during the 1990s that allowed 15,000 methanol-powered cars on the road. The experiment was a success and customers were happy but natural gas prices reached $11 per million BTUs in 2005 and the whole thing was called off. Only a few months later, the fracking revolution started to bring down the price of natural gas. It now sells at $4 per mBTU. Yet, for some reason the EPA has not yet reconsidered its long-standing position on methanol.
At the Methanol Policy Forum last year, Anne Korin of the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security (IAGS), made a very insightful remark. “I think methanol fares poorly in Washington precisely because it doesn’t need any subsidies or government assistance in making it economical. For that reason you have no big constituency behind it and no member of Congress crusading on its behalf.”
That may be about to change, however. China has a million cars burning methanol on the road and wants to expand. In the past few weeks alone, Texas and Louisiana have been hit with what is being called “Methanol Mania.” The Chinese are planning to build six major processing plants to turn the Gulf Coast into the world’s biggest center of methanol manufacture. One project will be the largest methanol refinery in the world, two times the size of one located in Trinidad.
All this methanol is intended to be sent back to China. The Chinese want to employ it as a feedstock for their own plastics industry, plus use it in Chinese cars. They will be shipping it the expanded Panama Canal, which will be completed in 2015.
But at some point someone in this country is going to look around and say, “Hey, why don’t we use some of this methanol to power our own automobiles.” At that point the methanol industry, along with the Texas and Louisiana, may have enough political leverage to get the EPA off the dime and see a decision about using methanol in our cars as well.
Ethanol is on it's way out and Methanol is the replacement. It really doesn't manner what the mixture is. Keep in mind, if its less than 50% of the mixture - its considered an additive. Additives are not subject to the gasoline fuel taxes which will lead to big savings for the retailers who are pumping it!!! That has to make retailers very excited about this product. Combined with lower price for the product, lower green house emissions , higher octane, more power and better mpg - anyone who can't see this is going to catch on very quickly - isn't looking at the big picture!!
Methanol is the future. Millions of yellow capped flex fuel vehicles in the US & Canada are finally about to have a real flex fuel choice! Our fuel is more powerful the gas (93-96 Octane), better mpg, better for the enviorment with lower emissions and best of all - cheaper price per gallon for the consumer!
They have a lot more to worry about than posting a returned letter. The shorts day is coming!
I'm watching for the DUMP Mr. Boston - Funny all I see is enormous bids coming in - 50k + bids. Doesn't look like dumping to me. Up 59% today - doesn't look like dumping to me! ?????
Gonna keep loading up - it's about to be go time guys and there is nothing anyone can say or do on this board that will change that. Hopeful 8 - I wanna see that post in 90 days and I want everyone to see what a quarter investment today turned into!!!
Longs - Payday is just around the corner x 2. Absolutely nothing the negative posters can do about it!
You are exactly right M-1 . My sources say they will be squirming real soon. Very Low volume means they can't cover. When the big volume comes, they will be washed away into margin calls. What goes around comes around!!
I called Target and asked if they sold SOS pot scrubbers - they said they didn't know what I was talking about. My point is of course they sell them - but employees who answer the phone don't know the inventory of an entire store! It is ludicrous to call PFJ and talk to a cashier about store products. They do not have time and probably don't care. Why don't you call them and ask if they carry "Oh Henry" candy bars?
LTA , they are sure working hard to try to shake shares loose? Wonder why? 30 negative posts in last 2 days - only 300 shares traded. Now that's funny!!!
Yes, CEO is very clever as everyone will soon see $$$$!!
Well you are just so smart Mr.Ben. The meaning of Unlimited Risk is coming your way real soon - keep shorting Einstein!!!
I remember going through this same scenario when it was said we were not in PFJ stores and then the list of stores came out. Dejavue ! It's gonna happen again! The fuel stations locations will be announced when the distributor is ready. This is a common business practice when you have a product no one else has!
Wow, some very nervous shorts posting now. They will say anything to get you to sell your shares! The only problem this company has is figuring out the logistics of a large scale roll out . It's happening and nothing is going to stop it. Hang in there longs!
100 % without a doubt - the fuel is everything the company says it is. I ran the fuel in my F150 pickup and it ran perfect with better mph than I had ever seen running on gasoline. First hand knowledge here. I am involved with a group of over 20 investors in this stock that have all put the fuel in our OWN vehicles and they all can verify the statement I just made. All the negative comments on this board cannot change that fact. The fuel is the real deal and will soon have a footprint in the market!!
The bump in the stock did not occur because the date of record had already passed. Shorts cannot cover the new shares of I gambit by buying ECSL shares, so in essence - they have to cover shares in both companies when the time comes. Not a good position for them. They will not be able to get out of their positions easily which will in turn cause a delayed upside push on both stocks when the next news releases come out. Be Patient with your shares and you will be very glad you did.
Everyone will be told the details at the same time. It's called a "Press Release" coming soon to a Theater near you!!!
Comparing Oranges to Apples - our Electronic House Call technology is now going into an OTCQB trading shell with a complete management team! HealthDatix will be the start of a whole new concept of Tele-medicine! More information on patients, better data on patients from monitoring them and earlier detection of health issues. The biggest driver of this will be the Health Insurance Companies (Medicare & Medicaid) because this technology will drive down health care costs at a time when 10,000 people a day in the US are turning 65!
Absolutely right VC. Our group owns a huge percentage of the float and when news breaks on both fronts, fuel & the medical , this stock is going to GAP instantly in just a few trades to new highs. The major majority of shares are held very tightly and the new Highs will just be the beginning as investors realize How big this market is on both sides of the fence - fuel and medical. I ,for one , am appalled by the negative comments on this board about our company and CEO. The intellectual property on this company is solid as a rock! We have been in the R & D stage for a few years , so yes revenues have been low. That is fact with any company in th R & D stage. We now we are expanding into the market and everyone is about to see how fast our products and technology can scale! Proof of Concept and Scalability = $$$$$ !!!!!! That is why most of us are here!!!
No Gag Order - we all pumped the fuel at one of two different locations and If you were involved with the company more than a few months, you would know where we all filled up our tanks. What's laughable is you post nothing but skeptisim coming from an alias born just a short while ago.
The stations will be announced in the companies timeframe, not yours. They have their reasons why they are waiting to announce the locations. Just like no one believed we were in PFJ stores 1 year ago!
The 20 or so investors on this board, who like myself, have put the fuel into their own cars know 100 % for sure the fuel is real and works! The only posters shouting scam have never used the fuel or met our CEO. Our Lawyers are the best in the business and they are actively crossing every T and dotting every I on the I-Gambit - Healthdatix spin off. All I can say is that when this gets announced, both companies are going to take off - each in their own element!!