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How anybody can trust NOBODY FROM NOWHERE?
No way!
WRONG!!!
Want everybody to read this by our love
John Carney and try to understand his logic!
Sweeping Up After Freddie's Tough Quarter
MARKETWATCH 1:30 PM ET 2/19/2015
Symbol Last Price Change
FMCC 2.91up -0.17 (-5.52%)
QUOTES AS OF 01:57:14 PM ET 02/19/2015
So much for the idea the federal government has been expropriating the profits of Freddie Mac(FMCC).
The mortgage giant, which on Thursday reported fourth-quarter results, said it would pay the government an $851 million dividend in March. That is its smallest payout to the U.S. Treasury since 2009.
A 95% year-over-year drop in Freddie's quarterly net income makes clear the company's earnings can be volatile even in a healthy housing market. That is particularly the case when interest rates move in an unexpected direction.
More important, the smaller dividend reveals how the company has actually benefited from a controversial deal between the Treasury and the Federal Housing Finance Agency in 2012. This called for the government to sweep away all of Freddie's profits, as well as those of sibling Fannie Mae, rather than take a 10% dividend payment.
Because of this, Freddie's fourth-quarter payout is half the $1.8 billion it otherwise would have had to pay. And this means Freddie won't dig a deeper hole for itself.
Back in 2011 and early 2012, when Freddie had to make the fixed dividend payment and profits fell short of what was owed, the company had to draw more bailout funds from the Treasury. That increased the total it owed the government and boosted the amount it would have to pay in future dividends.
The 2012 deal ended that vicious cycle. But the net-worth sweep became controversial in 2013 and 2014 when unexpectedly high profits at Freddie and Fannie resulted in the government receiving dividends in excess of 10% of its stake. Several shareholders filed lawsuits asking courts to overturn the 2012 deal, complaining the government was unjustly enriching itself and failing in its legal duty to act as the company's conservator.
While Freddie's results aren't likely to put an end to the controversy or the lawsuits, they demonstrate how the profit sweep actually helps Freddie stay above water.
-John Carney; 415-439-6400; AskNewswires@dowjones.com
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It looks like we never will hear honest words from you.
You do not want to understand-we were right about their profit but the problem is that we may be should not trust our GOV.
What is amazing how pretend that you do not see difference between situation when people investing in company they for sure risking but it depends of company performance.
These 2 companies were taken by GOV temporary as was said very clear by terms
and their stock were still trading so when we were buying these stocks we had hope that they will become profitable and this happened and we supposed to get rewards for this too not just GOV.
So what is so amazing here-that we are trusting our GOV and our justice system
when we should not?
Somebody mentioned that this Judge Lambert was asked to come from retirement to help court that has too many cases to work with so he did exactly what for he was asked to come-dismissed just 4 cases instead of dealing with them for months.
When Blue is out he is bashing when he is in like now he is pumping.
Crapo-Johnson, the bill that would have created a common mortgage backed security (MBS) platform regulated by a newly created FMIC, has been one of the few Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac reform proposals to receive bipartisan support, but it still didn’t have enough Democratic support to get a floor vote in the Senate and the bill was widely seen as DOA in the House. Seeing it lose momentum has convinced most people that legislative progress is unrealistic for at least the next year or so.
Fannie Mae Freddie Mac FHFA Federal National Mortgage Assctn Fnni Me (FNMA) Bove
Castro makes the standard argument that we need to bring private capital back to the secondary mortgage market, but private capital is still available thanks to Fannie Mae / Federal National Mortgage Assctn Fnni Me (OTCBB:FNMA), Freddie Mac / Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corp (OTCBB:FMCC), and Ginnie Mae. Unsurprisingly, there hasn’t been much demand for private label MBS, and Castro’s really talking about replacing one mechanism for bringing private capital to the market (the GSEs) with another (the FMIC).
It’s too hard to get a home loan, says Castro
Castro also thinks we should be pushing back into subprime territory to expand home ownership.
HUD Secretary Julián Castro speaks in favor of Crapo-Johnson and increasing home ownership among Americans with poor credit.
“A few years ago, bad loans and risky secondary market products prompted a housing crisis. There was plenty of blame to go around. Some believe it was too easy to get a home loan. Today it’s too hard,” he said. “It’s time to remove the stigma associated with promoting homeownership.”
Improving home ownership is good for the economy and for working class communities, but tepid statements like ‘some believe it was too easy to get a home loan’ make you wonder if Castro has really absorbed the lessons of the subprime crisis. He mentions extending home loans to people with credit scores as low as 580, and “helping lenders better identify loan defects and determine how serious those defects are.” That sounds a lot like the risk layering that got us into trouble in the first place.
It is not any more just opinion, it is already
diagnose.
Exactly what I was thinking-what, Berkowitz does not have FNMA shares, does not he feels that he was hurt by GOV.,what is more may be plaintiffs have the same feeling and shares too so what?
He was flashed by toilet water now but for sure we will be back.
Sorry, forgot to say
"it least officially".
The point is that is in plan for 15-16
so according to this they not planning anything for 14-15
I think most of us missed important part of this news that could be the reason why FNMA is so speedy down:
FHFA Requests Input on Agency Strategic Plan for 2015-2019
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
8/15/2014
Washington, DC – The Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA) today announced that it is requesting input on FHFA’s Strategic Plan: Fiscal Years 2015-2019.
3. Manage the Enterprises’ Ongoing Conservatorships
May be I missed it but I'm wonder if there were comments on this Board about John Carney article
"Time for Fannie and Freddie Investors To Surrender."
The main idea in this article was that ever Fannie and Freddie will be released and will stop paying all profits to Treasurer with much smaller profits and 10% dividends nothing will left for company and shareholders.
My question is it true that after paying all this money 2 companies still supposed to pay
10% dividends to Treasurer?
This is o kind of YOU!
why not to say
THIS STOCK GOES TO $0 TOMORROW
"It's true that the government has recouped the $182 billion it loaned AIG, plus $22.7 billion." and this include money that Treasurer got selling AIG shares and they are free for now.
Fannie and Freddie already paid back more then they got and Treasurer still have they shares and officially they did not pay any penny for debt and you compare AIG with situation with Fannie and Freddie-do not yoy see that there is special treating that they got and it was long time before and before this hedge funds claims.
It interesting to get your point about Government that you trust are making decisions not what is good for people or what they called taxpayers but just to get vendetta.
AIG shareholders were not in positions like we-they knew that after AIG WILL PAY DEBT IN FULL IT WILL BE FREE.THEY DID NOT HAVE THIS 3RD AMENDMENT.
And one more-you several time mentioned that FNMA should pay more that they got because of interest-how much more when interest rate is now 0 and how much more paid all banks, GM, AIG and many others who got loan from Government.
What is interesting that each time when report is coming FNMA never jumping at the same day or next day, it is going up some time in a week, more or less, the same was
last Year in April, then this year on Feb 26 FNMA was just around $4 and on March 11 around $6-MM always playing like this so I think it will go up next week, the question is how far and more important for how long.
As I said several times before-exactly at the time of Q1 report by FNMA
It is very interesting what you are trying to say to this Board.
I would understand if you would say this 2 Years ago or at least Year ago
But you are saying this now when these companies paid Treasurer more the 200 billions.
May be you said the same before too but using different user name.
The picture that you created forced me to ask you one question-if it is so clear now so it was much more clear in 2008 so why they were put in conservatorship. NOT receivership.
But Treasurer was agree to get just 10% dividends and 80% preferred stocks to get bailout money back. Why this was changed when it become clear that these company can pay back all money?
Exactly what I was afraid of-just in time of profit report!
It looks like some kind of strategy-it happened in May last Year with Corker, then in August with Obama, then in March this Year with this bill and now in May again!
As I posted before I'm afraid they want to do this closer to profit report so at least it will make damage to stockholders again-this what they doing the best.
I'm just afraid that Crapo or Johnson or both of them waiting for Next Quarter results to say something bad again.
In my opinion he is not Blue anymore-I would say "Grey" or "Dark"
Ads Claim Fannie, Freddie Overhaul Is ‘Obamacare for the Mortgage Industry’
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A conservative group is labeling bipartisan proposals to overhaul Fannie MaeFNMA -0.25% and Freddie MacFMCC -0.50% “Obamacare for the mortgage industry” in a new $1.6 million ad campaign.
The campaign, which targets seven senators for their support of the overhaul, argues that the plans would harm shareholders of the bailed-out mortgage-finance giants. The position is noteworthy, since conservative organizations haven’t traditionally come to the defense of Fannie and Freddie.
The ad blitz offers the latest sign that a wide-ranging group of special interests, from liberals that support more explicit support of affordable housing to hedge-fund investors that have bet on the firms’ revival, could form an unlikely alliance to put the brakes on any revamp of the mortgage market.
The 60 Plus Association, the conservative seniors group that purchased the advertisements that began airing Monday, says it opposes current legislation to replace Fannie and Freddie because it mistreats the companies’ shareholders, including retirees.
“First, it was Obamacare. Millions of Americans saw their health plans canceled,” says one ad running against Sen. Kay Hagan, a North Carolina Democrat facing a tough re-election battle. “Now, Kay Hagan is teaming up with Barack Obama to take over the mortgage industry.”
The ad says replacing Fannie and Freddie would harm “ordinary investors” in the firms’ stock.
Ms. Hagan’s re-election campaign issued a statement Monday calling the ad a “scare tactic…from a group that has no credibility on retirement security.”
The ads target two other Democrats—Sens. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Mark Warner of Virginia—and four Republicans—Sens. Mike Crapo of Idaho, Dean Heller of Nevada, Mark Kirk of Illinois and Jerry Moran of Kansas.
After Fannie and Freddie were rescued in 2008, hedge funds and other distressed-equity investors began buying up shares in the two firms as many other investors dumped the stock. They could make a windfall if Fannie and Freddie are allowed to recapitalize.
The government has injected nearly $188 billion in Fannie and Freddie to stabilize the firms and the U.S. mortgage market. Two years ago it began requiring the companies to send all of their profits to the Treasury as dividend payments.
The White House supports bipartisan legislation unveiled last month by the leaders of the Senate Banking Committee to replace Fannie and Freddie with a new system of federal mortgage insurance.
The Senate bill, which would maintain the Obama administration’s policy of sweeping away the firms’ profits, is “patently unfair,” said 60 Plus Chairman Jim Martin in a written statement. The group said it had purchased $1.6 million for the campaign, which was broadcasting ads on radio, tv, and online in seven states.
The organization said it doesn’t disclose its donors and rejected the idea that it was doing the bidding of distressed investors. “We pay no need to the hedge-fund community,” he said in the statement.
In recent years, Fannie, Freddie and federal agencies have backed as many as nine in 10 mortgages. Consequently, the claim that the Senate bill would amount to a government takeover of the mortgage market is “hardly honest,” said Jeb Mason, a Treasury policy adviser in the Bush administration.
“The point of reform would be to try to bring private capital back into the mortgage industry, not the opposite,” said Mr. Mason, who is now a partner at Cypress Group, a financial-services consultancy.
A separate advocacy group, called Shareholder Respect, is setting up meetings between shareholders and lawmakers next week on Capitol Hill. The group is led by Ralph Nader, a longtime critic of the companies who also owned their stock when the firms collapsed.
The group is also supported by Tim Pagliara, chief executive officer of CapWealth Advisors, a wealth management firm that invested in Fannie and Freddie shares after their collapse on behalf of its clients. Mr. Pagliara said he isn’t involved in the 60 Plus ad campaign.
Last month, Sen. Pat Toomey (R., Pa.) raised concerns in written questions to Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew that a local pension fund would be harmed by the Treasury’s bailout terms. It later turned out that the pension fund referenced by Mr. Toomey wasn’t invested in Fannie or Freddie shares. The county official said he had been introduced to the issue by a friend who is a lobbyist.
Supporters of an overhaul of Fannie and Freddie said the ad campaign is a sign that well-heeled investors in the companies are growing more organized.
“First they bring us an aggrieved Ralph Nader; then a fake grass-roots uprising,” said Jim Parrott, a former housing adviser in the Obama White House. “If the political system has a healthy bone left in its body, this increasingly strained campaign won’t work.”
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/04/02/ads-claim-fannie-freddie-overhaul-is-obamacare-for-the-mortgage-industry/?mod=yahoo_hs
I'm still here.
S&PBulletin: Fannie, Freddie Rtgs Unchanged On Reform Proposal 03/12 03:51 PM
The following is a press release from Standard & Poor's:
NEW YORK (Standard & Poor's) March 12, 2014--Standard & Poor's Ratings
Services said today that its ratings, including the senior debt ratings, on
Fannie Mae (FNMA:$3.78,00$0.24,006.78%) (AA+/Stable/A-1+) and Freddie Mac (FMCC:$3.68,00$0.32,009.52%) (AA+/Stable/A-1+) are unaffected
by U.S. Senate Banking Committee Chairman Tim Johnson (D-S.D.) and Ranking
Member Mike Crapo's (R-Idaho) announcement that they had reached an agreement
on a housing finance reform proposal--a key component of which is the goal of
winding down and ultimately eliminating Fannie and Freddie. They plan to
release the draft of their proposal in the coming days and move it to a vote
in the committee within weeks.
Our ratings on the debt of Fannie and Freddie rely on our assumption of an
"almost certain" likelihood of extraordinary government support from the U.S.
(see "Rating Government-Related Entities: Methodology and Assumptions,"
published on Dec. 9, 2010, on RatingsDirect). We do not view this announcement
as sufficient to change that assumption, for several reasons. One reason is
that the proposal, while apparently enjoying some bipartisan support, still
faces substantial legislative hurdles before becoming law, including passage
by the Senate Banking Committee, the Senate, the House of Representatives
(which has developed a competing proposal
Please read this!
Leaders of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee announced long-awaited plans to dismantle Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, pushing the companies’ common shares to their biggest intraday drop in 10 months.
Fannie Mae shares tumbled as much as 44 percent, paring the losses to 31 percent to close in New York at $4.03, after Edwin Groshans, a managing director at Washington-based equity research firm Height Analytics LLC, described the proposal as holder-negative. Freddie Mac fell 27 percent to close at $4.04. Preferred shares also dropped, some by as much as 12 percent.
The bipartisan measure, drafted with input from President Barack Obama’s administration, would replace the U.S.-owned mortgage financiers with government bond insurance that would kick in only after private capital suffered losses of at least 10 percent, Senate Banking Committee Chairman Tim Johnson and Senator Mike Crapo said in a statement yesterday. The bill would require most borrowers to make down payments of at least 5 percent.
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“This starts the ball rolling to get housing finance reform done,” Jaret Seiberg, policy analyst at Guggenheim Securities LLC’s Washington Research Group said in a telephone interview. “This issue remains alive and kicking and whatever happens in the next few weeks is going to tell us whether we get to the finish line or not.”
Photographer: Joshua Roberts/Bloomberg
Fannie Mae headquarters in Washington, D.C.
Mounting Pressure
Crapo and Johnson, a South Dakota Democrat, have been facing mounting pressure to introduce the legislation with enough time left to push it through so it could become law this year. Even with enough time, it is far from certain that the Senate and the Republican-led House will reach agreement on a bill and pass it to Obama for approval.
“ This agreement moves us closer to ending the five-year status quo and beginning the wind down of Fannie and Freddie while protecting taxpayers with strong private capital, building the components for a stable secondary market and avoiding repeating the mistakes of the past,” said Crapo of Idaho, the panel’s top Republican.
The White House released a statement yesterday calling the Crapo-Johnson proposal “a workable bipartisan approach to complete the biggest remaining piece of post-recession financial reform.”
The senators said they will introduce their bill “in the coming days” and begin fine-tuning it with other members of the committee in the coming weeks.
Earlier Bill
The Johnson-Crapo plan is based on a bill introduced last year by Senators Bob Corker, a Tennessee Republican, and Mark Warner, a Virginia Democrat. The new measure would set specific benchmarks for transitioning from Fannie Mae (FNMA) and Freddie Mac to the revised system, ensuring that the companies would withdraw only after the replacement was functioning.
The government would play a smaller role in the market by taking a backstop position on mortgage securities, stepping in only if private interests were wiped out by catastrophic losses. A new agency called the Federal Mortgage Insurance Corp. would charge fees to issue a government guarantee on bonds that would kick in only after private investors suffered losses of at least 10 percent.
The bill would establish funds for affordable housing that would be paid for by a fee on users of the new government reinsurance agency.
To increase access for community banks, the measure would establish a mutual cooperative jointly owned by small lenders to provide a cash window for eligible loans while allowing the firms to retain servicing rights.
Senate Resistance
Johnson and Crapo have to navigate Democratic politics on the banking panel, which must give preliminary approval to the measure. Senate Democrats including Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Sherrod Brown of Ohio have said they won’t back a plan unless it guarantees affordable loans for most buyers and includes significant support for low-income rental housing.
Without the vote of a majority of the 12 Democrats on the panel, the measure will have trouble gaining wider support from the full Democrat-led Senate.
In the House, a bill that would almost entirely privatize the mortgage market, written by Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling of Texas, hasn’t gained enough support for a vote of the full chamber. It is unclear whether the House would act this year even if the Senate passes a bill.
Seiberg, the policy analyst, said the House could be pressed to act if the Senate moves forward.
‘Middle Ground’
“If it comes off the floor with a lot of support, the pressure’s going to be on the House to find a middle ground and actually get something done,” he said.
Johnson and Crapo didn’t say how shareholders in Washington-based Fannie Mae and McLean, Virginia-based Freddie Mac (FMCC) would be treated as the two companies are wound down. The companies, bailed out with $187.5 billion from taxpayers after they neared bankruptcy in 2008, have begun to return billions of dollars as the housing market rebounds.
Investors including hedge fund Perry Capital and mutual-fund firm Fairholme Capital Management have sued the U.S. challenging an arrangement in which the Treasury takes all of the companies’ quarterly profits. Hedge funds have also lobbied Congress to re-capitalize the companies instead of winding them down.
“All the sincere effort expended by the Senate Banking Committee simply confirms that there is no better alternative,” Fairholme Chief Investment Officer Bruce Berkowitz said in a statement. “Their core insurance businesses need to be restructured in a way that compensates and protects the taxpayer, not thrown away. No legislation is required for this - – only an end to the conservatorship and the restoration of an independent regulator who insists they conserve their capital and operate their business prudently.
To contact the reporters on this story: Clea Benson in Washington at cbenson20@bloomberg.net; Cheyenne Hopkins in Washington at chopkins19@bloomberg.net
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Maura Reynolds at mreynolds34@bloomberg.net Gregory Mott, Anthony Gnoffo
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I'm over 100K from April 2013-still there!
I'm so happy to see yours "we must go back to .83"
Just I hope it will happened in your best dream.
No bad news and red again.
Is it not enough?
Any idea what will happened tomorrow?
Any News?
xxx