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Nice call....
Do you want to make another call about the status of the PMTA? What's the hold on that?
Nice to see someone optimistic talking about XXII. Morale is quite low these days.
June 2019 seems a little bit early. Who said that the new regulation for tobacco would be in Trump's desk by summer for signing? Was Scott G. ? I don't remember....
I'm invested here years ago but do not expect to hit a slum dunk anymore. Just waiting for the PMTA and MRTP approved and hopefully will sell around 5 or 6 bucks.
Good luck folks.
You may be right. But that the same pumper stuff that 99 % of the time does not happen. Look at the chart. I don't want to sail past 4,44 bucks again only to see it vanishes again.
No deals whatsoever were made in ten years and now is gonna hold those gains?
I sure will leave some shares just in case.
Good luck
Hello there folks.
Why everything has to be white or black? To tha moon or bankupcy?
I do believe that the pps will have to rise when the MRTP is approved. I mean, maybe expect 5 ish or even maybe 6 bucks and move on. Maybe leave some shares on the side just in case it gets bought eventually.
We may not get rich but we can get some good money with the MRTP approved and that is just 7 or 8 moths away.
Good luck.
ETF Managers filed today they own 4,569,000 shares valued @ 12,108,000 bucks according to Fintel. Very nice
https://fintel.io/so/us/xxii
Ok thanks.
Magic 0 was never sold in the US?
XXII has never tried to sell VLN in the USA without the FDA blessing/labeling?
I am asking cause if that is so is a little weird, just saying
As long as they file before 2019 I am fine. Is what Henry said like 100 times.
The filing won't do anything to the pps, just the same daily trade rollercoaster shite.
The wait for approval could be long but I think it will be worth it
Mood and pps is decaying......listen this broadcast begining @ 32:30 minutes......is Gottlieb saying something about innovatives XXII products.....?
Patience folks. Approval may be a long stretch but that sure will raise the pps to much higher levels.
And new regulations before years end according to Gottlieb.
https://mobile.twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1gqxvnAOZWgxB
Nothing will happen with the MRTP filing. Maybe a little pump and dump and will stay below 3$....hopefully not but looks like it.
They need to focus on the hemp side after the filing.....the awaiting of approval could be very very long
Approved before years end 2018? Wtf r u smoking?
I thing you meant filed before 2018 end and approved before 2019 end
Thank Henry? Are you kidding? He gets extremely well payed for a small biotech.
I will thank Henry when he delivers something great which has not ocurred yet.
There won't be a radical VLN mandate. Something will come but it will be progressive in several years.
When the MRTP is approved they will have to sell it and the problem I really see here is that their product tastes like manure.
Don' t expect BIG T to buy us for 1 or 2 billions because they know the product is not good.
Having said that I hope that I am wrong and get corrected in due time
I said that because still not a tangible or concrete fact, deal or achievement has ocurred here. Making 20 million revenue ( non profitable ) a year doesn't justify a 300 million MC.
I hope that this will change with the MRTP approval and afterwards.
In all the forums and chats and stocks apps there are cheerleaders that tell you it is the next Apple when it was trading at cents.
Do not get me wrong, ten years from now this could be trading at 20 bucks or 5 digits. But not likely. Time will tell and I hope you are right.
But right now it is all smoke.
I am a smoker and bought Magic 0 that is supposedly just like Brand A....it tastes like shit and does not subsitute regular smoking. It is my opinion.
When the MRTP is approved this could get a huge pump. First MRTP approved that is huge.... Will sell most of it and keep some just in case you are right.
Good luck.
I am good with MRTP approval. Will put this stock in the 5 or 6 bucks conservative the next year. Never thought of this being the last coke in the desert. Big tobacco is very powerful.
But will keep some shares for several years just in case...
They first PR the Q results and announce the CC for the following day. It has been that way for several quarters.
It is been said in some forums that it will be tomorrow AH and the call on friday based on last year Q3, that was a 9th november.....
But it could be next week also, until the 15th november we would be inside the envelope.
Lol well brought.
MRTP still not filed but Henry sure has the PR ready with a blank date on it.
Yes, but if we do have a peak into MRTP filing after that it will surely go down again like always has. Like I said here before the only tangible feat will be approval to sustain a much higher pps.
We just need to get the MRTP approved. That seems like a given from the FDA and they have to respond next year....
A mandate for every tobacco to be VLN I don't see it either, maybe in 10 years..... but a mandate for all the companies to sell a VLN variant seems plausible.
Bad vibrations lately seen in here folks.
It seems like for good or for bad we are very close to one outcome here.
We take the MRTP submission for granted (Henry cannot screw this one) and then a maximum of 360 days which I believe will be less...It may be the first approved MRTP ever! If that happens it is clearly a success (hopefully the pps will follow suit).
Doesn't seem much time to wait watching XXII story.
Good luck.
Damn who is buying? Henry sells Aurora's and buys company's own shares?
Even 9 million a quarter does not justify a 300 million MC. People rooting for 6 $ for this end of the year are nuts. I maybe could see 6 bucks when the MRTP is approved. That would be something relevant not the submission.
I really do not see a VLN mandate in the near future. I do see our MRTP approved and the permission to sell real low nicotine tobacco tagged as that with the FDA nod.
Of course it is.
Remember that almost every smoker switched to supposed lights tobacco.
Still the blue packs, which are the ones with less nicotine are the most smoked nowadays.
Another thing is the taste of VLN and the market it will get....
That article from below must be wrong. I don't see 8,2 billion from Chantix.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180130005389/en/PFIZER-REPORTS-FOURTH-QUARTER-FULL-YEAR-2017-RESULTS
That link show 2017 full year revenues were 52,5 billions. Cannot find full year from Chantix but in page 35 it says 271 million worlwide from Chantix in Q4.
Full year 2017 on the US must be around 800-900 million from Chantix and around 1 billion worlwide.
Scroll down to page 35 on that pdf. It says 277 million worlwide from Chantix. 217 in the US and 60 rest of the world
The problem here is what to do when this peaks out with the MRTP submission.....cash out something seems the most recommended action to do looking at the chart. I really do not thing this is going to hit 6 with submission. Remember that it was already submitted then pulled out and Henry has said it like 100 times what is the new maximum date...
The FDA could come back in 10 days or in 360 days after submission and seems like being the Government is going to be the latest. I think the real deal and validation of this company will be the FDA approval and even with that we still won't be making any real money.
Joe P. would be 222 million rich with a 6 $ pos. Very nice indeed.
I know this is a waiting game but don't you guys see these levels, hovering between 2 and 3 until real news?
I don't think submission of MRTP will do much if not nothing to the PPS.
Right now I just see approval of VLN labeling as something relevant to the PPS and that is many many months away, like Christmas 2019....
Very disappointing for sure.
Very nice indeed.
Let's hope they keep those shares until our desired MRTP approval.
Henry has said it and he always delivers lolololol
Exactly. There will not be a radical mandate. It will be a very slow process, 10 years or so and where will be this Gotlieb guy by then? Only chance for pps increase is get the FDA blessing for labeling XXII product as VLN,...and this is at least a 15 months away wait folks....
Yes and there is no fast track considered in that process. It better get filed before year's end so maybe this turd can surpass 3 bucks by Christmas 2019. Good Lord.
Let's make that 5 years.
He will get nervous on the third year and another dillution will come if not before.
Just sitting on what the FDA will fart the next decade.
Get that MRTP on track, get it approved, label it with the FDA blessing and get some real benefits
There will not be a VLN mandate in many many years. Our only chance is to apply the MRTP and get it approved. Sell it as ultralights and get benefits. Henry seems unable to get it done before cash is burnt
Yes for sure. As long as we have cash to sustain ops, no need to sell
Do we get a fifth of those 115 million bucks?
Sorry for your loss Bio.
I must be kind of stupid, I started smoking at 29 years, now with 44 years still engaged with this shite...
They should work 24/7 in three shifts and Henry make coffee for those guys all the time to justify his pay rise