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why would there be NEWS at this point?
Not suggesting this at all but they could currently be in final steps or doing ANYTHING and it aint news till it's
news correct or am I missing something here.
If you were not sent notification and filled out the proper paper work you probably have nothing.
Do you show shares in your acct currently for WMIH ?
If you were not contact its your turn to contact say like YOUR lawyer
Don't mean to cast neg at all but CHIT IN ONE HAND WISH IN the other and see which fills faster.....
All I know is I'll be here to see WTFH's
ANd HOSEN and the HEDGIES can kiss my royal red Butt if they thunk I am going anywhere
you sure are consistent is that better
heheheh you are a die hard I have to give ya that,why don't ya just say he took SS a check
sorry wasn't meaning the BK case but the investigatory aspect with GS currently going on
PR's are the source to show this is an OPEN ongoing case
YOU DO UNDERSTAND that lawyers much prefer to settle case than litigate them don't you?
Hey just grab a chair
not according to those in the court room,he left all cocked full of himself and came back with his tail tucked, ask any that were there
And exactly why there is an LT set up here.
Sorry but nothing in the legal field moves fast.
I was in a court case for some 8 yrs against an insurer of mine
TRY this on for size it had nothing to do with the BK!
Civil and BK are two totally seperate things and criminality outside the BK is not a BK COURT problem
What was in the sealed doc in court ,sure busted ROSEYS bubble what ever it was
One can surmise that if for sure has nothing to do with ARNA going out of business.
Now another thing is that those shares would have been used IF ARNA NEEDED to raise money earlier,it now appears since we have gotten milestone payments they no longer need any fund especially with DEA scheduling about to happen.
Honestly believe its a non-event but one that shows good things overall about the company and it's financial condition. all imho
Investopedia explains 'SEC Form 15'
When a company files an SEC Form 15, it usually means one of two things. It may mean that a company is ceasing to exist in a publicly-traded form, either returning to privately-held status or going out of business altogether. Alternatively, it may mean that a company is simply canceling a certain class of securities, replacing them with another class.
Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sec-form-15.asp#ixzz2LjHB8A1C
And from day one any here that know me from 08 KNOW I have always said THE US TREAS will cut the check here not JPMC
TO GET AS FAR AWAY FROM THE SCENE OF THE CRIME AS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did
Best piece of advise I can give any here
SET IT AND FORGET IT PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!! this will do what it is gonna do and if your here you get it if not ya dont
I said IMHO call your broker or CPA for the real skinny
IMHO you received something of value in lieu of your old shares.
So unless you sold imho no you can NOT clam or file a tax loss
if you opted in and got shares now in your acct and LTI's your in period imho
Don't sweat the peaty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff
Even if they did they do it to themselves as well.
I have to continue to hear what S&G said as well as the judge ,this is unheard of and a very good thing for shareholders.
S&G pleaded for all to TAKE the deal that is was a good deal ..........I believe it was FAIR and EQUATABLE was the wording, look up the definitions of those two words if you have any doubt as to what we were being told at the time
Have to get as far away from the scene/time of the crime as they can so it's just a blip on the radar for one day maybe..........
And if ya opted out ya got no gripe YOU OPTED OUT.
Good luck on any judge ever hearing a case about or from disgruntled shareholders of WAMU that did not take a SETTLEMENT
In court it would go like this
Mr Jones were you told by both the court and WAMUs lawyers to take this settlement as it was fair and equitable?
Well yes but I didn't see it that way
Your Honor I have no further questions next witness please!!!!!!
My biggest problem with the dell thing is and always has been LIKE INDUSTRY LIKE SIZE.
There is no common ground between the two to allow imho the utilization of the NOLS under IRS rules and guidelines.
Hey but there was not reason for the FDIC to seize Wamu at 32/8 and there is no reason that TPG BONDERMAN was not required to file for the disposition of their shares.
and there was no reason for there to have been a BK WITHOUT a 3.1A so for all intents REASON GOES OUT THE FKIN WINDOW HERE.
We all questioned why TPG got a bank when it happened , this may very well be why all imho as I have said now for yrs TPG/Bonderman is not out of the picture here and may very well end up being our WHITE KNIGHT
SO GOT CHAIR GOT CAKE and will wait
P.S> and there is dmaned sure no reson to have all of these altruistic(bashers) here to help us from our selves so again there is no reasoning in WAMU OR WMIH
Not going against the Dell thingy at all .
I don't fully understand when or how the NOLS have to be used but if TPG injected a ton of money to the bank they use it to offset those profits.
TPG has a buttload of money to invest they new bank could start buying other bansk or rev generating assets and use the nols as time goes forward
Or is there a specific time frame all those need to be used up by sorry for not knowing but many things have been said here
Always said the Chinese don't like being had.........
What if Bonderman gave the Chinese his shares? And what I suggest does take place?
All the hedgies that are here and in very large numbers make out teh Chinese make out and Bonderman makes out by loaning money to bank and getting repaid .
ALL are hap hap happy and those of use that stayed are either bought otu on the cheap or taken along for the ride........
I know way out in left field or is it really
Now lets play some speculation here .
Sunwest is a LIKE SIZE COMPANY in a LIKE business are they not?
Tied to BONDERMAN ;
post from Sunwests Yahoo board
cbboog • Feb 12, 2013 5:24 PM Flag
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4th Quarter
Equity = $85,345,000
ALLL = $15,340,000
Total net charge-offs for the year ended 12/31/12 = $66,000
12 months Pre-tax, pre-provison = $17,440,000
Why the big provision for loan losses when net charge-offs for the year were virtually $0? I guess management feels that when you are already over reserved, why not get way over reserved? What could be the motivation to be soooo over reserved? Are they trying to under report earnings?
In any event, book value plus reserves now exceed $100,000,000 (almost $50,000/share). That is a big number for such a small bank. Less
THIS passes the smell test for me more than does the DELL deal spoken about on this board.
Bonderman is NO IDIOT and is a very good businessman with TONS of money behind him.
Lets play this game what if they merge we buy them with the loan we have at ready and are of equals , passes the IRS smell test does it not? right
Then TPG pops up and makes a loan to SUN/WMIH and puts them on their feet in a large way.
Sun is not TPG so sun stand on its own and is valued KOWINKIDINKILY 100,000,000 $$$$$$$$$$.
And as you could see by the post above even its shareholders are wondering why they are attempting to UNDERVALUE SUNWEST.
Yep SUNWEST if I remember correctly
None here that have been here are gonna do anything anyway.
if a co is BK or not there are still required filings form MAJOR HODLDERS
Time tells all and most here will be here to see what it tells us in time
would not even dare to put out a WAG honestly
Sorry I know I have always harped on Bonderman/TPG but I still contend he and his partners are NOT OUT OF THIS DEAL imho
These two groups have been far to quiet from day one
Let's say TPG did sell ( I see no concrete proof they did) what about their Chinese partners???????? TPG only held some 176 mil shares or close out of the 840 mill shares issued at the time
They can't just go POOF there are filings that are required of any hold the numbers or % of shares in a public company that TPG and partners held ,what was it some 43% or better
where are the respective filings for such a disposition of those shares like the required SEC filing tia
I think so as well since we have NEVER seen any disclosure on them selling which is as well required
Remember TPG has been quiet since day one here and the % they OWN/OWNED
people keep forgetting TPG so tell me now how can they gain control.
If memory is correct TPG and partners held some 46% at one point,ever see any filings that they sold and their partners sold?
as I said long ago though if they end up WITH CONTROL that could be .10