Hopefully we’ll hear from Susan soon.

Unfortunately Mistera, it means the court case is not over. Now the courts need to decide whether TMMI has enough evidence to continue the dispute or whether the case gets thrown out. Not an outcome TMMI shareholders were looking for…

Thx Antro. Based on the report, I’d say the odds of them leaving the pinks are pretty good.

A lawsuit would certainly keep a company from graduating from the pinks.

Seems like we’re on the same page Antro…

Antro, any idea what the audit is for?
I was of the impression that TMMI was already reporting on the pink sheets.

I believe you’ll find that they’re a lot smarter than you think.
Hype isn’t Susan’s style. Delivering on her word is. But you don’t disclose what you’re working on until it’s ready for prime time, and Susan is well aware of that. And the lawsuit is still ongoing. You’ll hear from her when she’s ready.
If TMMI’s current tech is worth anything, she’ll find a way to make money from it.
And her last 2 appointments seem very strategic to me. I can just imagine what they might be creating.

Agreed Belden. It's pretty obvious the market isn't interested in any more product announcements from TMMI. It's time for them to make a sizable contract announcement.

However, regarding the tech, I for one want to see the results of this TRUPIX. If it can truly scale like no other product from SD to UHD then there are some real applications for it today. It shouldn't take long to get some decent customers.

Bat, this is great news.
Any idea how to actually test the software?

Exactly Smitty. If you used your algorithm to down-sample 4K to 2K, then would I expect your technology demo to provide us your 2K file that scales up to 4K (or higher) with negligible loss. Not a 4K file that's compressed with another Codec. And your 2K file's data rate should be in the range of 1.5 to 5 Mbps, (not 30 Mbps) so that it can be efficiently streamed and be a real competitor to H.264 and H.265.

Let me know when that I can see that, as that's what I expect to see from TMMI. Actually I expect to see more, as they claim they can scale 256X, not just 4X.

Bat, if TMMI can really scale 256 times with little loss, yes they truly would have something game changing.

Smitty I'm not Tom Simpson.
But I am a compressionist who's seen what Dimension has posted for samples and commented on them all. Bottom line is there's nothing earth shattering in their demo's, actually quite the reverse. They could've been produced with off the shelf software and still had better compression while looking the same.
And like most of you on this board, I haven't seen TMMI's latest work either. Maybe I'll have to sign one of those NDA's and go take a look...

Smitty maybe you can explain the videos posted on Dimension's website because I don't get it.
For one, they claim they can scale from SD to 8K, which depending on what the resolution is of the SD master, is scaling up about 64 times (WxH).
But the demo scales only 4 times (2XW x 2xH) the original. Why not show off your capabilities and scale 64 times?
Also, the Codec used in these demos is AVC at 30 Mbps. 30 Mbps? That's much higher than you would expect for a 4K video encoded with AVC.
So why aren't they showing their own Codec? Doesn't it work in 3rd party players?
From all your guys excitement, I thought maybe they were actually going to show something substantive. Demonstrating a 4K video requiring 30 Mps bandwidth is nothing to get excited about... even if it was your own Codec.
I don't know about you, but my bandwidth maxes out at 13 Mbps, and that's if all my neighbors are at work, or sleeping. No wonder they don't have a streaming demo.
If Dimension is trying to get TMMI to show what they have, maybe they should post a real demo. And if this really is all that Dimension has, I'm not impressed.

Hmmm. Raytheon would work with a little Pink Sheet company that has nothing?
I guess that's why you dispute that TMMI and Raytheon are working together on a joint venture.
Who is Dimension Inc. partnering with?

And what exactly could ON2's VP8 do that H.264 couldn't do better?
And yes, VP8, a decent (but not great Codec) most likely infringes on patents.
So what can TrueDef do that these (and H.265) can't do? Scale?
Do you realize that fractals can't infringe on DCT's?

Maybe they think it's too CPU intensive? Could they be wrong?
And how do you know Raytheon isn't interested DueD?

And why exactly is the petition lame?
Seems to me that considerable effort went into filing that patent. Seems to me that owning a patent for upscaling video without any loss in quality would have to be worth quite a bit... especially when no one else can do it.
You'd think there would be considerable effort spent on defending such a patent.
Just wondering when Dimension filed their response?
Anybody know?
Or do we have to call the patent office?

Fracky, speaking of trade secrets, why don't you tell us when Dimension Inc. filed a preliminary response to the patent petition?

Be nice if we got more info on the encoded file itself. What was the resolution of the Truedef file? What was the final bitrate? How many times can it scale up without losing resolution?

Jay, the server farm is not 1 computer... it's 22. And yes, something like this is usually scalable, meaning it can grow. If architected properly it can grow to house hundreds or thousands of PC's... all working together as one, or lots. Depends on the configuration and the demand (load).

Jay I think the TMMI announcement meant they will be able to support 200 simultaneous encoding sessions, not streaming clients.
We're talking about a massively parallel processing server used for encoding video into Trudef format.
What they're building is an encoding (or transcoding) farm. This means that 200 different customers can login and transcode their videos at the same time... customers that might have sports videos, movies, and especially surveillance to archive.
I think readers need to understand this:
That no other video format/codec can scale up virtually lossless like Trudef can (hence the name). This Codec makes zooming into a crowd and picking out a face a reality, not science fiction as is depicted on TV.
Zooming in to see super clear (in UHDTV+ quality) whether a catch is a touchdown, or a shot really was a goal will soon be possible and most likely exclusively with Trudef. I believe they're the only ones truly capable of creating high quality videos compressed with a fractal video encoder.
Congratulations TMMI! I can't wait to be one of those customers.

I'm quite certain the reason they're displaying a video encoded with a standards based Codec (MP4) is because they want people to see their video message. I don't believe they have a player (like the Windows Media Player, or even a proprietary player) that they can embed into a web page.
The reason they moved up to MP4 from Theora is because it provides a better picture for the data rate.
They certainly don't tell anyone that what they're displaying isn't using their Codec.

If I were running TMMI I'd be paying Microsoft a visit and show them their UHD video running on the Surface tablet. Microsoft was once the king of video delivery, on-demand and streaming with their Windows Media Services platform, before Flash unseated them. They do get royalties (along with Apple, etc. for H.264) however. But owning TruDef could give Microsoft an advantage over Apple and Google...
I haven't seen the TruDef compression stats, but I'm guessing they're competitive with H.264 and H.265 in the 2K and up resolutions.
Who knows? Maybe that's TMMI's plan...

4Retire has posted that Dimension Inc. has a streaming video demo of their video scaling technology on their website.
He failed to mention that the video is in fact encoded in open source Theora, which is NOT theirs, and doesn't true scale at all like he claimed. It stretches... so the quality is compromised.
Let him post the demo... it's not the real thing!

I would tend to agree Stewguts. This patent filed by Mr. Hurd in 2007 on behalf of Dimension could end up being property of TMMI. Definately a legal issue now.

Why Fractals for video? Why TMMI?
Having been a video compressionist since the early 1980's, I can say I've seen and tested a lot of Codecs. What intrigues me about the TruDef Codec is it's use of fractal coding, and the promise of "resolution independence".
I am not a TMMI employee nor a mathematician, and like most of you I have not seen the TruDef Codec playing back in real-time on any video player, but I believe that some on the advisory board may have, and that's why they joined the board.
Why do I believe that the TruDef Codec can claim "resolution independence" when other Codecs can't? Because inherent in fractal coding is the ability to scale without apparent visual loss. For those that don't believe, please check out:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/fractal-detail.html. Read the article and launch the interactive demo.
Although Mandelbrot was the father of fractals, Barnsley and Sloan of the Georgia Institute of Technology were the first to commercialize the use of fractals for imaging, by filing numerous patents, and forming Iterated Systems, Inc. back in 1987.
So why TMMI? Because TMMI purchased the rights to Iterated Systems fractal code for use in video many, many years ago, and millions of dollars were spent developing the code. Until just recently, PC's weren't powerful enough to encode video using TruDef in a reasonable amount of time. Compressing took far too long to make it commercially viable. But fractal coding for video may soon see it's day in the sun.
TMMI now has a new team of brilliant coders and advisors, (including Allan Sloan) and PC's today are far faster than the super computers were when Taylor Kramer of TMMI first tested their fractal code. So now the code is being updated for the latest PC's... and we're hoping it won't be very long till a commercial product or service is available for all to see.

Good possibility Jay.

To expand a bit more on the topic of Codecs, H.264 is the predominant Codec today. It's cross platform, and the current industry standard. It's used by just about everyone for streaming and storing video today. Almost all players in the industry support it in their devices, whether they are encoders or decoders. It's in use in smart phones, PC's and MAC's as well as set top boxes. It's patent pool licensors include the biggest players in the industry: Apple, Microsoft, Sony, etc., and is licensed thru MPEGLA.
The problem with H.264 is that it does lose visual quality if upscaled, and at resolutions approaching 8K, everyone in the industry understood that the bandwidth and storage space required would be far too great... and therefore a new industry standard would be required. Something more efficient would be required for UHDTV and beyond. Hence the successor to H.264, H.265 or HEVC was developed.
The target for this new standard was a 50% improvement in coding efficiency... meaning that a video encoded in H.265 should be 1/2 the file size or bandwidth of the same file encoded in H.264, where the visual quality would be the same for both encoded files. In reality, it seems H.265 ends up being only 35% more efficient.
So what's the real problem? Look at it this way... a 2K video is the highest quality video most of us can watch in our living rooms today... it's 1920x1080 or roughly 2000 (2K) pixels wide. 4K video is twice as wide, (3840) but also twice as high, meaning there are 4 times as many pixels that need to be displayed than with 2K video. 8K video has 16 times as many pixels to display than does 2K video. Get the picture? You need alot more bandwidth to deliver 4K and 8K video than 2K video.
Now neither H.264 nor H.265 claim to be "resolution independent". H.264 and H.265 are both pixel based Codecs... TruDef is not.
I think you can see where I'm going with this... H.264 is not efficient enough for 8K videos, and now it seems H.265 might not be either.
So what if another Codec was able to scale up without loss? What if it could encode a video at 2K and display it at 4K or 8K without loss? Would it be efficient? Could it become a new video standard?
Ever watch TV where the cops ask the techie to zoom into a video because there's a face in the crowd they need to see? Did you realize that this isn't possible with today’s Codecs? That when they show the face sharp and crisp that's actually fiction? Do you realize you would need "resolution independence" to see that face clear? To scale (or zoom in) without picture quality loss?
TruDef is the only Codec that claims to be "resolution independent"... and the only one that seems to be able to solve the bandwidth problem faced by present day Codecs attempting to solve the 4K and 8K display issues.
Did David slay Goliath? What were the odds David was given?

Happy to help Phil.

HEVC and Fractal Coding are 2 completely different methods of encoding. HEVC is standards based in that the world recognizes it as a standard while fractal coding is presently used by no one (except TMMI) for video encoding and playback.
Note that some TV manufacturers are already announcing support for HEVC.
That being said, fractal coding is superior to H.264 and H.265 because of it's "resolution independence"... meaning it can scale up without any visual loss in quality. This means with TruDef you could encode video at 2K, but stream it to and play it on an 8K TV (if there was one) and see no visual loss at 8K. There's a huge benefit to this, because the video stream could potentially require the same bandwidth as a 2K HEVC encoded video, but look better than an 8K HEVC encoded video.
Because of this, there's a good possiblity that there could one day be a new video standard... TruDef.
What's most likely to happen in the nost so distant future is that some TV and set top box manufacturers will support both TruDef and HEVC, so that they can play both Codecs... but that's about as close as HEVC and TruDef will get together. They are competing Codecs.
In the long run TruDef has the potential to be the dominant Codec, and therefore the new standard. Things will get very interesting indeed.