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The fudge has no Lead! $GNGR$
Jwillis, here is the facts! Just scroll down the tiers n read. You are 100% wrong. Gngr does not have to post news or financials of any kind. It is gngrs choice weather to post or not. Gngr can just choose to move to non reporting tier.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/investors/otc-market-tiers
jcwillis, your 100% wrong. Here is the data.
Pink Sheets and OTCBB Major Differences
A company listed on the OTCBB is required to file a quarterly financial report with the SEC, while companies on Pink Sheets are not required to report financial statements at all.
Companies who trade on the Pink Sheets are not required to adhere by the Sarbanes-Oxley Bill, while those on the OTCBB are.
Companies who list on the OTCBB generally do so because of the extra prestige, while those who choose to list on the Pink Sheets generally do so because of the lower costs.
Pink Sheets and OTCBB Summary
All in all, any stock that trades on the Pink Sheets or the OTCBB is a very risky stock. Pink Sheets are starting to bring in some large foreign companies who want to list in the United States, but don’t want the large costs associated with the NYSE or NASDAQ listing. Be advised that because Pink Sheets don’t have any financial reporting rules, it is very difficult to quantify how a company is doing. If you decide to dive into the Pink Sheets or OTCBB marketplaces, make sure you do so with an online broker who has clear cut rules on trading these speculative stocks.
As per sec & otc, NO grant does not have to post any quarterly or annual financials..
Didn't Grant state that he is not going to post news or quarterly reports in one of his posts due to the issues with some share holders?
Am I mistaken or does anyone have the old ihub post by Grant.
I purchased tickets for HEART and 5 Bars of Betty Boop on the ticket master site. VERY COOL...Seems real to me!
Not to mention the $3600 GNGR got from our school ski trip fundraiser with at least 5 more this summer for various events. ((( GO TIGERS )))
If GNGR can do at the minimum, 2500 school fundraiser programs with each school averaging $10,000 over the course of each year, we would be looking at sales of $25,000,000.00
So far I see no issues with GNGR or Got Chocolates other then performance. And I hope the silence is golden. Anyone else buy any Betty Boop bars?
Happy SATURDAY everyone...
Watch the 3:30 video at the right and you will see that two people can pour that amount of fudge in such a small space. Now imagine 4 teams of two doing the same. I think that GNGR will expand, and to expand will cost very little in equipment and also very little space and even more importantly, very low overhead.
I see them pumping fudge and by my observation it looks at though they do not need a Phd or Masters degree to do that. I also notice that GNGR could easily pay more than minimum wage based om that video.
maybe a factory that is only 1500 sq foot can have 5 teams of 2 pumping like that. I did the math and its $10s of millions annually.
It only took me 3:30 video and a calculator and also having placed orders to see that GNGR is not the normal fly by night pinky.
What is also something to think about is the top 10 chocolate companies do NOT make fudge. I can see them attempting to buy our GNGR in the future as GNGR taps into the consumer market with no competition.
$GNGR$
Great management does not make stock rise. so far GNGrs team is doing ok by me. New management means probably executive pay and dilution, Is that what you want with new management?
IMO
QUESTION TO ALL:==>
Why do stock prices rise on news of intent like when a company says they are on the verge of a breakthrough medical miracle? Or when a gold mine says they know there is $500,000,000 in gold on their land but never even put a shovel in the ground to dig it up?
If GNGRs sales turn out to be a loss, who cares. If people are buying GNGR based on sales, $80,000 is hardly enough to get excited about.
But is $80,000 that pays GNGRs salaries better than a gold mines $00000 revenue but the shares sold are paying salaries? (you decide where you want your investment to go)
I believe even if GNGR hits $.0001 they will still continue to grow and sell products. I also know that investing $.0001 in some multi billion shares float gold mine will be worthless in time, GNGR will not suffer the same fate.
SO do you invest in GNGR and wait it out or invest in some other pink with NO revenue not even $80,000 and no proof they will actually achieve their goals like GNGR is proving they can do.
IF GNGR hits $.0001 Ill buy the entire float of 108,000,000 for $10,800 and own it all.
Jon C, finally a post that is spot on! If everyone would read n understand your post no one would be selling
Tenths of a penny fluctuations=====> is hardly enough to get stressed over. How about those who bought apple for $700 and now are down $280 per share! that is something to cry about.
GNGR can go from $.006 to $.60 easier then some blue chips or tech stocks from ever going back into green ever again.
Mt69, I don't know what to think===>. I know GNGR is a solid company having placed some fund raising orders and the products performed well and we will be doing more in the near future.
Profits or Losses I think do not matter.
My thoughts are that no matter what a company does, Scam gold mine, scam energy or legit performer the only thing investors want is liquidity and movement so they can sell. If there is huge volumes and liquidity in a gold mine scam stock, investors find that more attractive then a solid performing company with little movement.
Why are people not screaming dilution with those companies that have no revenue and no chance of ever implementing their goals let alone even start? Because liquidity and movement drives interest.
Why did some here scream dilution when there was none but at the same time scream they demanded liquidity? if trading dries up and GNGR needs liquidity to move the shares, screams of dilution will once again plague this board. My feelings have always been:
If GNGR was a 32 oz. glass of water and they added an ounce of lemon juice you would have a great glass of lemonade and obviously the ounces would rise to 33 ounces having added the 1 oz. lemon juice. This is not dilution, it is adding a little ingredient to make the whole much better.
What the companies that dump billions to the market are like the same 32 ounce glass of water then they mix that with 8 gallons of lemon juice and make it a massive amount of sour mix that you can't drink. That is dilution.
My thoughts are GNGR has to eventually have 250,000,000 or maybe more to the float to be able to have more buyers trade more shares. If GNGR does not create liquidity there shares will tank. To increase liquidity they have to issue more shares to the float without making it too sour.
IMO as always.
Question to all===>
if GNGR interest dries up the price usually goes down because MMs don't want to load up what they cannot sell correct?
It does not mean that GNGR is failing and in fact can even be expanding and creating more revenue but that still does not make the stock rise.
after reading many posts here one can come to the conclusion that interest drives the share price and not the actual success of the company. The pinks that are nothing more then an idea company or gold mine that has yet to even put a shovel in the ground work harder keeping interest in the stock up rather then profits that never arrive but massive shares trade. That is because revenue, salaries and huge bonuses are paid out from income from selling shares and not actually from any business operations.
When GNGR did their marketing the same way to get money to put into the company and are showing sales, profits and further expansion, why do people cry DILUTION, PUMP AND DUMP? when the same people do not cry the same with the real pump and dump scams?
My only conclusion is:
People actually do not care about the company and weather they are a scam or even profitable. As long as the shares are pumped those who got in early just want to get out soon with a profit at new investors expense. When the company does not pump the stock those who are unable to profit by such a pump start getting upset because they cant sell the shares as they anticipated on the up tick pump correct?
If GNGR did another marketing campaign to increase liquidity they would of course have to issue more shares to the float and to those who are hired to market the stock. When they did that months ago it looked like the shares hit $.14 +- (I can't recall)
If GNGR did that again as before driving the price back to $.14 I'm sure everyone here including myself would sell enough to make a nice return but also possibly keep some but based on PINKS historical stigma of get in get out fast, many will just sell and move on.
SO what is GNGR to do?
increase liquidity to get interest then hear DILUTION dries
or just sit tight and just keep focusing on expansion and deal with those who are unhappy GNGR is not getting liquidity back up by marketing which is then called DILUTION.
confused but IMO
I love this stock, I enjoy the ups and downs but more so that GNGR is real and in its infancy.
I think this will be a long term (maybe few years) wonderful return on investment.
IMO
what would calling Big "D" accomplish?==>
maybe hes selling his shares!! like langston said he was doing.
I say sit tight and let this run its course. So far I have seen first hand that GNGR is real and on the move. Anyone not wanting to wait a little and are too impatient to see this is a good thing, sell and move on but complaining at every 1/10th of a penny change is really uncalled for and there far from that $.0001 as some said they would be at many months ago, and for that matter GNGR only started hitting the national retail market for only a few months but people act like its been years.
GNGR only went public in 2008 was it? that is only 5 years ago. Most pink scams like gold mine, energy and yes even health beverages have been reverse merging many times over 20 years and still have no products or sales, only sell shares, reverse then do it all again. I would be more upset that they are allowed to do that when GNGR is proving those other companies all wrong.
IMO
How much more can be sold before there is none left to sell? who is selling so many shares each day at this low price?
there has to be a point where there are non left to sell.
Right?
3 sells 25,000 each per hour. This must be Langston selling off his position to raise the $20,000 to buy into WGAS which by the way is tanking. Or its the MMs loading up little by little knowing they will rise again and they can turn a quick buck.
Guess Langstons sell off will have to wait till his shares are all depleted.
mt69, the link on pinksheets points to a down website.
mt69, just called TA. 160,681,983 in float NOT 26,496,000 as showing on the pink sheets. Looks like John will get burned on that deal.
what a shame taking a loss on GNGR then loosing the loss on that turkey.
OH WELL, he helps to ruin GNGR but fails to see hell soon wish he didnt sell.
FIN
By my accounts===>
selling GNGR at a loss because of a little bird saying to move to another stock that does not even have a product, thinking you will make a boat load of money then return to GNGR to re purchase the shares with all the HUGE PROFITS from the other company will result in yet another failure.
But hay what do I know.
anyone HERE?
Worried?===>
if people are worried even if the price went from $.13 to $.01 and then cost averaged by buying more bringing the average to $.02+-
I would be more worried not having enough shares.
I still stand by my opinion that GNGR will have a much easier time going from $.01 back to $.13 in time then it will be for FB to ever go back to $38 or Apple to go back to $700
OK so GNGR is no nasdaq stock (yet) but many companies started on the pinksheets and moved up.
I still say the numbers are there:
Buy $2000 in GNGR stock at $.01 you get 200,000 shares. if they rise back to even half its year high of $.13 ($.07) you turned $2000 into $14,000 a profit of $12,000
take the same $2000 and buy apple at $450 and you get only 4 shares. To make the same $12,000 net, Apple would have to go to $3500 per share. Yeah SURE.
same with FB you get 66 shares for $2000 and to make the same $12,000 net, FB would have to hit $212 per share. DOUBLE YEAH SURE.
I personally still think GNGR will surpass $.13 maybe even this year which means that $2000 in GNGR will be worth MORE then $2000 invested in Apple or FB or thousands of other blue chip stocks.
I just don't see a point in some posters saying their $5000 is now worth much less and there ruined. Advise: don't buy any stock and put the $5000 under your pillow.
Or go buy Apple when it was $700 and down almost $250 per share. That is really worth crying about not some 1/10ths of a penny like GNGR.
IMO
Gngr -3%, FB -4% go GNGR!
Here is my opinion!==>
Add another $8000 fundraising over the course of 2013 to our already $2000 spent, take that $10,000 and figure that at the very least, and I mean worst case, If out of 200 here (5) did a $2000 fundraiser even just twice per year is $20,000 out of 200 people is a 2.5% success rate
If for every 200 schools the same 5 do a fundraiser, then out of 100,000 schools means that 2,500 each year will also generate the same $20,000 on average which is closer to $50,000,000. I also believe that many more than 2,500 schools will adopt to this new product.
$20,000 is not much and times it by 10 is $200,000 but when you start to times it 100 is $2,000,000 and by 1000 is $20,000,000.00 and as it looks this is not a hard thing to achieve if they can produce and as per the video you can see they can pour something like 3000 an hour. If they charge the current $1.25 per fudge that we sold for $3.00 or two for $5.00 and they can make 3000 per hour or 24,000 in an 8 hour day is $30,000 per day with just a few people as in the video which looks like their labor and space needed is minimal.
And they must be able to achieve this because there doing it in the video with just 3 people on a small table (this is not wish and hope as tat4tat stated) that is a reality. I can image that same 3 member team with that one machine ending up in a small factory with 5 teams of 3 with 5 machines making in total 15,000 per hour is more like $150,000 per day in wholesale sales equates to over $50,000,000 annually. That would only equate to a few thousand buyers of fundraisers over the course of each year making the percentage of buyers compared to who currently purchased fundraisers even lower then the % of those who bought here out of our group of 200
Keeping in mind that the figures I think about are just fundraising and not retail, convenience or chain stores or their boop bars or pickles and what ever else they create.
We did not choose the fudge because we own stock, we did not plan a trip for the seniors just to create some way to benefit a company we own shares in, we started the fund needs years before I even owned shares, We just all agreed that using the fudge is just simply better then the other items we tried that are costly and people really don't like.
I am no wiz at math but with kids in school and an already proven fundraiser that exceeded the funds needed and sold far more faster then those horrid candy bars with McDonalds coupons, I have my proof as I am sure many here who said they received items they purchased are also convinced. tat4tat should place an order and see for them selves.
I cant believe anyone would create a company, buy equipment, show proof on videos and ship orders to deceive, when the deception would take much longer then the ingredients for what a scam usually does buy selling gold mine stocks fast so they can raise millions and fold and move on. If just the fundraising becomes (I mean it already is) successful and they expand just on that, they will make significant revenue and at that time the GNGR team can reap the rewards.
Is it possible that in the swamp of all these rotten dirty pink companies that even one can emerge a winner? If the pinks were so frowned upon why do they still exist and sell shares to those who keep crying scam? It is because people are either duped or they believe a $.0001 investment in some gold mine will rise to $5.00. Will GNGR rise to $5.00? I don't think so but I do think that well see $1.00 one day and I can wait.
I think if GNGR was trying to scam investors, they are doing it wrong.
IMO
tat4tat: ===>
Ill leave you with this, If GNGR moves to your $.03 figure, do you think that GNGR has a greater chance of going from $.03 to $.30 (thirty cents) a 10x gain
or Apple rising from its current $450 to $4500 the same 10x gain?
I will state this again and again and again. the % does not change but the cost to profit by the same % can coast you so much more.
You have $2500 to spend
you buy 225,000 shares of GNGR at $.011 per share = $2500
you buy 5 shares of Apple at $500 per share = $2500
heck you even buy 3 shares of google at $780 per share = $2500
(do this with any so called blue chip)
Keep in mind that any of those blue chips you can only benefit if you got in in the beginning and with a lot of money you would have needed to invest.
If GNGR manages to hit a simple five cents $.055 up from $.011 for a 5x gain
Apple would need to hit $2500 per share
Google would need to hit $3900 per share
to make the same return.
what I did was cash out of stocks that I bought high that went only a little higher but have no place to go but down and, invested in GNGR. If GNGR hits $.05 I make $75,000
at $.25 $370,000
the difference I see is that its nice to brag you own apple or google (few shares at best) but bragging GNGR paid off my house! that is something to brag about.
tat4tat, reply: ====>
Thanks tor understanding. Some people evidently don't. I hope you are right and maybe Id buy more when I get more information.
What more do you need? all the info you need you have!
Words like believe and wish are similar to IMO and don't mean that success is guaranteed.
Believe and wish do not apply to GNGR, Proof and performance have already been established. believe and wish is for gold mines!
Teed off is what some posters are when they don't here exactly what they want.
what is it you want that you are not getting? (see first response)
Comparisons to other companies don't necessarily work and talking to management either. I'm not sure that a stock being up 100% is a plus when comparing that to a new low. When I first encounterd this stock I thought .03 looked good. The yearly low was .01666. Things change so who knows. Its always a gamble.
I think you need to sell your stock and go play one hand of black jack and WISH and BELIEVE you win double. What you are seeking does not exist in any stock and is more emotions then reality.
remember a coulda woulda shoulda portfolio will not help with retirement.
tat4tat your 100% wrong==>
You say that Apple moving up $.004 is insignificant to the $77 you could have bought it for correct? SO you are saying that you wish you had bought for $77 and sold for $700 correct. Are you now willing to buy APPLE today for $450 per share and take the chance it will rise back to $700?
That seems to me that you should take the same position now with GNGR and buy shares now so they are $1.50 in the future even if it takes some time won't the rewards be worth the wait like Apples $77 share price?
What about the FOOLS who paid $700 and are now down $250 per share? And those who paid $77 and regret selling at $700 are now crying they lost $250 per share when they are still ahead $373 (pure greed)
If you are crying about fractions of a penny with GNGR you really don't have the stomach to be in this or any stock.
If you read the posts on the GNGR Facebook page you may learn a thing or two about (not the stock market) but something within yourself.
Posting negative garb here is really an outlet for your own insecurities and possibly the fact that all stocks that you may have failed to purchase over the years are doing well (or the shoulda coulda syndrome) Everyone will say that they shoulda but those who in fact did, are also feeling the pain of ENRON. TYCO, WORLDCOM etc. Many said the same shoulda when those companies stocks skyrocketed then thanked god they did not buy.
If GNGR is at $.011 or what ever it's at now. Your "SHOULDA" syndrome may in fact rear it's ugly head again to you in the near future.
The question to ask yourself tat4tat? will your shoulda down the road be once again put in your portfolio of missed opportunities or will it be a reality you can proudly say "IM SO GLAD I DID"?
If the current price is fluctuating by $.001 that is a great sign I believe because its better then a stock fluctuation by $250 per share or more. I have something like 1,450,000 shares and this is the first stock that I actually told others about who have had the product. I wish they put the GNGR ticker on the fudge labels so those who bought the fundraisers would see they are public.
So tat4tat you have a choice. Take a small risk (at $.011 is hardly huge)and focus on the gngr product line that everyone here seems to have purchased and loved. Again if 20 people here out of 200 posters has purchased that's a 10% ratio!
take 10% of 25,000,000 (2,500,000) times that by $1000 fundraiser and you get $2billion $500 million
Take the same 10% from this crazy ihub board of 200 and times that by $50 for just some fudge and apply that to the same 2,500,000 people over time, that's $125,000,0000
You want to see DD and proof? all that proof is right here in front of you on this lonely little group of 200 IHUB members.
your proof and DD is staring at you right here, I'm into GNGR for $2000 for the fundraiser and were going to do 10 just like that.
so will it be "GLAD I'M IN" or DARN I SHOULDA?
choice is yours my fellow GNGR poster.
If your looking for the TRUTH I suggest you get on your computer and buy some fudge. If that is not proof enough that a simple $20 item can't achieve sales to 2,500,000 people through GNGRs sales and marketing plans, than the truth you seek may be biblical. But I hardly think John Luke and dare I say Jesus were investing in stock.
Other than livestock of course...
:)
How it is possible a company can sell more shares then what is the authorized. Isn't the authorized the total shares issued or not?
Our fundraiser is complete! we raised more then we needed and are preparing to use the same company for 10 more fundraisers. My guess is that our schools sports, music and field trip programs that need funding will all be met above budget and in record time.
Our first order was $2000 (having bought some more last week) and we raised over $2000 net. (ski trip + food 100% fully funded)
If our school and summer programs do that same raise 10 times we will be in the $10,000 spending range to GNGR and that is just our one school.
I can't imagine 500 schools nationwide not following the same program. That alone is $5,000,000 but for data and marketing sake what if they actually offer this to 5000 schools.
Plus the fundraising is only a part of what they do. I still buy Pickles and wonkas just the same. We may try the chocolate bar this spring before it gets to hot for chocolate then switch to fudge when it gets warm. GNGR said they can put up to 6 coupons on the back of the wrapper. We will find local merchants again to put ads on the back so buying the bar for $4 you get much more in savings from local merchants.
I also am dumbfounded that the image of a dog on the facebook page actually will be a topic of discussion here and or cause people to make investment decisions based on that. Thank goodness they did not put an image of a cabbage patch doll, the stock may tank to $.0001 and again ill have my check book ready.
We are preparing our next fund raise and people who bought the fudges already asked if we can create a wedding favor for 400! and a birthday favor for 25, they will pay retail and we will buy wholesale and put the profits in the fund we started and GNGR said they have no minimums and will create the similar custom label as per our request.
Imagine these hitting the wedding market! could surpass fundraising but my calculator does not have that many digits.
IMO
I still have my shares..
Stick my head in an ant hill===>
and smear my ears with jam! I'm gonna get me some of these shares asap.
Dive, we put the GNGR ticker on our flyer. I say it again
Can't everyone somehow spread this companies existence to the entire internet and say "buy the product before you buy shares and then decide how real this company is"
Investing $19.99 on an assortment pack will show people they are really a great company and it won't be like the $19.99 test is a waste of money because the assortment pack will be a welcome treat to have and share. Then people can tell others about the fundraisers and about GNGR.
We could maybe spread the word and get 10,000 people in 2013. I do say it again that if the float does not increase and the shares rise to $.50 that will put 90% of pink sheet investors out of reach on the stock. And the few who sell at that price will drive the price down.
I am sure more liquidity will be needed. Owning $.50 shares you can't sell would be worse than not adding to the float.
If Got Chocolates can be a great retail company which so far has proven to be better than most on line retailers. Can't GNGR end up with 10,000 customers who each spends $500 per year that they will spend anyways for a gift or birthday or holiday items?
That alone is $5,000,000 per year. At that level even with 500,000,000 in the float we would still have a $.50 share price that can be sold and not just looked at as green in the account that you can't sell.
At $.50 I will be worth over $650,000 and it would be nice to know it can be sold and not just green with no MMS buying it.
IMO
Dive, it's actually not a lot. When you think about it here is what some feedback was.
When people bought the (horrible I might add) fund raiser McDonalds chocolate bars or the boxes of M&Ms, the parents would only buy $5 worth. We now know that they will buy anything to help support the various fund raisers but those items are hardly worth taking to work to resell to coworkers or at the office or even the kids selling door to door.
The fudge samples were so well received that parents will be proud and excited to bring them to their work and sell at the office.
Let's face it, bringing M&Ms to the office to sell for $5 for a box that you can just go to 7-11 and buy the same M&Ms for $.75 is a rip off. The Got Chocolates fudge will be for sale at around the same price in local stores so its a more logical item to sell because the buyers are not pressured to just buy crap for more then retail like M&Ms.
The fudge is being sold not at a premium or some crazy markup which relies on just parents and peoples good nature to help the kids, the fudge is actually just us bringing a gourmet item that is always liked directly to the buyers with no over priced markups.
$4000 was not at all difficult but we would have raise what we needed using the other bars or M&Ms but we would have had to sell to many more people and many each year don't buy them anymore and it would take a lot longer and time is not on our side.
We will be adding a coupon in the fudges from a local pizza ship that says Free topping and a 2 liter of soda with any walk in pizza pie purchase. That coupon did not cost the pizza shop any money and Got Chocolates is adding the coupon under each gold tray in the bag for free.
I am convinced that people will be asking for more fudge when this program runs out.
This fundraising is going to go national I believe.
We raised over $4000! we averaged 2.5 assortment packs some taking one and some 4 but most took two packs. We took in 45 orders averaged out to 2.5 assortment packs each. We now have to call got chocolates and up the order.
Our goal was $1,800 but now we have $2,333. We are using the extra money to pay for buffet breakfast and dinners at the lodge which were not included.
We will be looking at more fundraisers after we get feedback from this first fundraiser for 8 more funding programs.
Mmmm Help you I will...
Ill sell fudge and make back my $$$
Koo Koo (and all) ====>
You only loose money if you sell the stock low and cash out with less. You never LOOSE money until you turn shares into losses as cash. Same as when the stock rises. You didnt make ONE penny if the stock rises $1.00 unless you sell and convert that stock into cash.
SO
This is the same as you LOST YOUR CAR KEYS, you know they are in the house RIGHT but you tell everyone YOU LOST YOUR KEYS.
Then you find them and say WOW I didnt loose them, they were just misplaced but they are just where you left them.
Stocks are the same, you don't LOOSE you only misplace numbers. When you sell your shares for a loss then you lost money.
as of now it its just misplaced. When GNGR springs back you will say
I FOUND MORE MONEY. Just leave your GNGR stock where it is and you will soon find your $1000
PS did you find your keys yet?
my words of wit today
3/10th of a penny! really folks