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With reports on CNBC, DOW, WSJ, And just about every republisher on the web,...how can you justify saying that new buyers were not a major portion of the buying? I have a hard time believing that millions of shorts ran to cover on a .50 move when this stock has a long history of these violent swings in PPS and they have been in these positions from a much higher PPS (not under water in other words). My guess is no better than yours, but the facts just don't jive here.
It is just the likely source of the rumor, but if we're talking turkey it is about 2/5 of what VRNG originally wanted from GOOG. Microsoft has a net worth of about 69Bil to GOOGs 220Bil.....numbers just don't jive
Yeah saw that.... You might be right.
Second that... Source?
Pray that a settlement can actually be reached.... The amount is insignificant since it is a positive cash flow into the coffers from a litigation based source.... Something that will be a first for VRNG. This is the best kind if confirmation bias that a company built around patent monetization can get. Have a good weekend.
We always have the EOD move.... .08 up?
I'll admit that I feel a little better and won't have to talk to "you people" (yeah I said you people lol) this weekend. Not the pacer I wanted, but I'll take it.
Do I hear a prediction? And more importantly is it being made with a glass of Vino and NyQuil?
Mazel Tov
Don't know, but just looked at this thing for the first time today and draw green.... I almost drove off the road
"Not to bash or argue, but to help us understand the rationale for initiating a short position"
I'm not sure how that reflects shorts VS longs. And thank you :)
"Where does this pseudo morality come from in trading in a market? Why is it OK for you to make money because you bet on a stock price to go up as opposed to traders who make money based on the underlying assumptions of the buyers being unsound?"
I don't follow you, nor do I see how this has any relevance to my posed question or even minor juxtaposition to the thread in general. At no point did I question the general acceptance of, nor the vehicle with which you chose to invest and/or make money. What I asked is for a short with a legitimate reason to have their position to share with me the rationale behind initiating a position with what seems to me to be an irrational risk. I feel that it is in an investors best interest to learn and vet information from both sides of the argument to best position themselves for growing principal and protecting their investment. I do NOT believe that emotions, belligerence and pseudo morality have a place in the market.
If you or anyone you know can provide an answer to the above question as well as provide empirical numbers and historical relevance to support the thesis it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your response and good luck.
I was just thinking to myself who was on pacer duty with this stock. Thanks Virgo
It makes sense on paper.... Sounds convincing anyway
Yes, that explains a large bulk of the short position, however it doesn't explain the accumulation of shorts over the last two months. My thoughts are that it is only HF and MMs with endless pockets. I may never know for sure
I would invite any shorts here to do the same....please. I honestly would like to know the thought process involved in initiating a short position. TIA
There is a mini call to arms of sorts on Free Forum of people asking shorts on the board to come forward. Not to bash or argue, but to help us understand the rationale for initiating a short position on what seems like an extremely high risk, low reward play.... At least it does to a layman like myself
We'll know in a few hours by whether I'm on the couch or not tonight
Yeah, watching every tick and venting on here at this point gives way to self deprecation. I can't keep up with the bi-polar alternates VRNG has created in my head. JJ will rule, nobody knows when, that's all anyone/everyone knows.
" most people get really bullish at tops in markets and overly negative at bottoms"
So does my wife
I'll read it between patients.... Busy day. Thanks again
Thank you
Link?
This is comical guys... At least let WDDD file a single motion before you start this kind of panic. This lot of investors will single handedly keep Just For Men grey hair treatment in business by the end of this.... Jesus
Wow on every level possible. Not recent and definitely not an analyst. I'm gonna start calling you the "elephant" post.... That thing on your neck is a steel trap buddy.
Lol... Looks a lot like Kevin Porter
What analyst was this???
It's ok....ultimately it will be the same risks here if you wait around long enough
The judge overrules all and awards VRNG $0
My point is this.... If I got upset at every .03 dip in PPS (or $2.50 like VRNG, or $17 like VHC... List goes on) I'd be in a mental ward by now. It's par for the course, prepare yourself
Welcome to patent plays.... If this is upsetting you then you should turn your computer off until mid May instead of watching every tick. You'll live longer
This company is in its infancy... A dividend (if its even a twinkle in Kidrin's eye) is a minimum of two years down the road. It takes "extra cash" in coffers to have that ability, and we just had to enter into a $2.3 Mil financing agreement to remain solvent and enable this company to see this battle through to the end and hopefully GET a paycheck. Growth of principal should be your only concern at this point.
" I don't expect the big gains to start till late April to Early May"
Correct
Yeah I saw that.... I just wish he had been right on his last 2 calls so I could get excited about it, maybe third times a charm. Personally I'm more excited that Post has a horse in this race lol
This reminds me if my 10 yr old daughter when she doesn't get her way and then starts breaking her own crap in her room screaming "Fine then I don't need any of this"..... It's that same all or none mentality that many investors here validated in their heads. This is no home run, but it's definitely not a dooms day event either. It would take an act of god to destroy this thing to .01
Holy crap! We got THE sideliner. Postyle doth not smite thee any longer
Pacer check anyone?
The vringo is watching and listening.... Grab your foil hats. Plus I believe this is just the big boys trying to run the cheap shares they just captured up for a profit.... Without JJ this will drop right back to high 2's. Just a guess on my part.
Shhhhhh! Don't jinx it
"They also said they think the whole thing should be thrown out."
And OJ Simpsons attorney said the glove don't fit.... Point is this, if you were accused of, lets say murder.... Even if the evidence all pointed heavily to you being guilty with absolutely no alibi and a day long helicopter chase following you on the highway in a high speed car chase with mass media coverage, would it not be fair to say that you EXPECT your attorney to follow through with at least making an attempt to say it wasn't you? They can and will cover every last base they possibly can, and if there is even a tiny shred of POSSIBLE truth to it, the court will likely hear it out to avoid words like "mistrial"
This is probably IMO, however from my limited knowledge on court proceedings I have to believe this is the case.