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I hope you own more than one stock, you sure spend a lot of time trying to convince people this one is a POS.
I can see why most Long's have long since given up debating the merits here and on Raging Bull, what's the point?
I'm in for the long run, but still like to see who thinks they have a handle on what is really going on.
Jim
Can you tell me why people think this stock will reverse slit in December?
Jim
I was wondering why there is almost no chatter about this company.
Seems like it must be talked about somewhere.
Jim
Thanks for the kind post, I also enjoy Japanese gardening (Bonzai).
I'm in a pretty good space right now, retired and yet busier than I probably should be.
In ways I really related with your post, some of us walk a tough path all our lives,but it does not mean the end of the world (there can be great epiphanies).
It comes down to the quality of the love you share with others, and their patience when your not at your best.
It's kind strange that when your health declines, you need to put more energy and thought into your relationships.
When posting on these boards we all receive the filter of are we telling the truth, and then we get judgment.
My guess is that most here are just trying to make money with no dark motives, but there are the exceptions.
To end this rambling post, I'll just say peace and if the sun comes out again in Tacoma this fall I stand out in it for you.
Jim
Before the reverse split I think many here could use "faith in the company" as a reason to hold on to our shares, but after the reverse split and now the share price drifting down fast it's disheartening.
On top of that we have very little information coming from the company other than in PR's, we could use a proactive IR person.
It also would have been nice to read that they found a way to not use toxic financing.
The bottom line is we (who own shares) are vulnerable right now and we need to hear some commitment from the company to us shareholders, and even maybe thanks for our sacrifice and a commitment to protect our current investment.
I say this not because I believe it will happen, but that we all have reasons to feel uncomfortable with the current situation, the last thing we need now is to tear each other apart.
JMHO, Jim
I agree with you completely and have said the same thing in the past (other than the "sir" part).
I have personaly lost several thousand dollars on DNAP/DNAG and yet I'm still buying it.
I have had personal medical problems where the drugs I was given hurt my liver and kidneys, I don't want anybody else to have to have this kind of risk.
That having been said I'm not mad and I still hope that DNAG will be the one that leads in this fight.
Take care, Jim
So you believe that what is said here makes a difference in DNAG's survival?
What I know is that if there is a board where people contantly fight, that it will almost always have a small readership.
Bottom line is most people don't need it.
It's up to you,
JMHO, Jim
That's pretty funny coming from you.
I'm surprised that you are working so hard to keep us all in line.
The problem with your line of posts is that they become a burden on any meaningful conversation.
If Mrs Scarlet hates hunting, what shift does that make in your world?
If Frogdreaming has problems with DNAG's patents and science why do you care?
You might try relaxing and talking about what you believe in,
and see what comes from it.
I guess you would need to care about Frogdreamings posts enough to be worried about them.
I find him to be a perfect counter point to my beliefs in DNAG.
I have fought the good fight in the past and found that it rarely did any good.
Frogdreaming has always been a very cordial poster unless provoked. If you want to continue to put wood on the fire then I'm sure it will stay hot.
The question I have for you is can you bring out the best information that Frogdreaming has to offer?
He has very seldom ever sheltered his knowledge, even if it might benefit DNAG.
If you want to have a heated discussion with him then go for it, just don't make it personal, we all suffer from the experience.
JMHO, Jim
Well considering that Frogdreaming lives in the Northwest, I would guess your wrong (about working for DNAG), unless of course he new Tony when he lived up here. I believe there was no DNAPrint at that time.
My other point is that Nitya has an entirely different point of view on DNAG, IE: just a unhappy investor.
I see no purpose in Frogdreaming even attempting to create a Nitya personality, what's the point?
Educated people have very little need to play these games and I doubt the desire to swing a penny stock, by playing both ends.
I believe that Frogdreaming is here because the science interests him and that he has enjoyed the intelectual debates that some here have shared with him.
If a person is retired you could do worse things (I'm assuming that he is).
Jim
Gosh we must either have a lot of smart posters or a lot of doorknobs. LOL
Jim
With all the parts of DNAP having been shared with PR's and we still drift down, the only hope I see is if we get a major contract that creates revenue or we get a buyer for the company.
JMHO, Jim
Once again many here lack historical reference to past posts, we have had a poster with at least six identities that was working both boards and both sides.
The sad part was that he did not have sufficient IQ to support one.
In the end most of his posts were wiped out, so it's impossible to reference.
I believe that there is no poster on either board that has the power to influence the price, and at the end of the day we are all sitting in a bus station waiting for our ride.
Jim
LOL
Would that be a link to hell?
I wish we had bigger swings in price so we could justify the bashers need to work this stock.
The sad thing is we are drifting down and no work is required, they must feel lost with no real purpose for being.
Jim
Your idea lacks the historical postings of these individuals.
Mrs Scarlet is exactly who she claims to be as is Frogdreaming, and most of the rest of the long time posters here.
What we see in their posts are the ideas of human beings with different frames of mind.
Celebrate the difference.
I think my point has been made, I don't care what slip Mrs Scarlet might have made in the past.
Jim
I'm here because I own DNAPrint stock.
The rest will have to answer for themselves, but I would guess it's not for the sparkling conversations. LOL
Jim
Your posts speak for themselves.
I really don't need to defend Mrs Scarlet, she is a much more capable woman then you give her credit for and is a lot smarter than both of us put together.
My question to you is what are you getting for your effort?
Jim
LOL
I guess I'm on the upswing, at least today.
It's been a hard year, this getting older thing is for the birds.
Maybe that's why my lifes to short messages are coming out, most of the people here would make great friends and on both sides of this little morality play.
Thanks for asking, Jim
I happen to believe that Mrs Scarlet is exactly who she says she is and she is a lovely person on top of it.
As one of the people that has been long since the beginning, this separating people into camps is a bit to paranoid for my taste.
If you can't find wisdom in most of the posts here your not reading hard enough.
I want to have DNAPrint succeed more than most here, but when news comes out and the price slips you need to dig into what is going on.
Both sides can offer potential incite into why that is, there is absolutely no reason at this point to try and make it personal.
Bad form and not very gentlemanly.
This board and Raging Bull has been beaten down to win at any cost and attack any person that challenges ones point.
The world grows more hostile every day and we are becoming far less civilized.
Does anyone one care about their spirit?
Well I'm doing my small part, have been buying lately...
I had to come back to all the warm and helpful posters that we have on both boards.
I hope Tdiamonds is doing well... LOL
Jim
We only officially have one steak hut so until the closing of the next one you need to refigure.
I want to know if we still have 6.2 bill restricted shares, and what are the voting rights of the 200 million?
Did Ed buy back 700 million shares plus the 500 million the company was suppose to buy back?
Why no PR on the closing of the last hotel?
So many questions...
Jim
Roundmot is trying to take a page out of Fayiz's handbook.
If you read between the lines what he is saying is sell now (drop the price) and later you can buy back maybe twice as many shares.
The idea of course is that if we all create downward pressure on the stock he can take advantage of it and buy his shares cheaper, he is a swing trader after all.
The only problem for us is that many would have to sell at a loss to play this game and would have to wait 30 days to re-buy back in.
What happens if there is acquisition news?
Jim
Welcome to IHUB, I'm sure your bashing will be well received.
Jim
I'm not so sure that logic works.
If I was the owner of a business that Fayiz wants to buy, I would want to know that it was going to a person that has the financial resources to make it work and even thrive.
There is very few business that are bought out right and I think that the seller would hold some paper to maybe the tune of 30 percent. This is normally done to protect non compete clauses and sometimes to spread out the sellers revenue.
They might even be willing to take stock instead of the 30 percent. I think a slightly higher stock price would help with this.
It's anybodies guess what is really happening.
Jim
It's really interesting to try and sort this out.
If they are making 12 " disks with circuitry built in them we might be talking about a higher end piece.
I'm thinking of navigation monitors, for cars, boats and planes, they might need a hundred ovens to just fill this need.
If they are buying a manufacturing plant, then I would suspect that it might dwarf their existing building. This may be our first clue to what is planned.
I wonder if their ovens can grow in scale to their needs?
Oh well, Jim
It would seem that they can be overwhelmed with orders from companies that make smaller devices, like cell phones and scientific devices.
TV's may be the least of their opportunities.
Jim
You would think that Cetek could at least say "We now have X
amount of furnaces operating"
My guess is that Cetek is trying for some reason to hold the price down.
Jim
That was a scary dream, I use Etrade too!! LOL
If the stock went up to 9.00 plus I would be calling in the order if I couldn't figure out how to enter it on the system.
I would also be booking some time at a mental clinic, because it would be like winning the lottery.
I'm just not that lucky. LOL
Jim
If I become a Millionaire I'm going back to Amsterdam.
I was a good kid and only went to the finest places. LOL
As far as visiting here, I would suggest that there a several wonderful places for scenery. Considering you come from Holland, I would suggest the Florida coast so you can enjoy the sun, New York to enjoy the city and culture, Chicago has great restaurants and the Southwest (Arizona and New Mexico)
would give you scenery, culture and a great mystery (Ancient Indian tribes and what happend to them) to ponder for several years.
Good luck on your lifes journey,
Jim
I could almost understand that... LOL
I was in Amsterdam a few years ago and had a wonderful time, those long dinners were not good for my figure though. LOL
The walking around town made up for it though.
Take care and stay warm,
Jim
In my opinion you sell when it satisfies your profit needs, I'll probably sell in stages if it starts moving up.
I would be thrilled with 2 cents and probaby sell a quarter of my million. This would recover my initial investment and I hear that's important. LOL
I don't think that I'll get that chance for a while, but I live in hope...
Jim
I may be wrong, but what I see is Cetek filling orders for customers in the sizes they need.
Stock piling 40" by 40" ceramics makes no sense if there are no orders. That they have the capability is what has been implied from the past.
I agree with your assessment for the future.
Jim
Well of course this is the fodder for future conversations, who are Cetek's clients?
I don't have any inside information, I just have a years worth of BB reading under my belt. LOL
Jim
They just let a sell go through at .0013, the bus may be leaving the station with out you.
Jim
The bid is .0012 and the ask is .0014, that's why you can't get filled, the good news is that we are moving up.
Jim
I agree with most of your post, the only reason to create a plant overseas is cost of goods and maybe be closer to your clients.
JMHO, Jim
I have a million reasons to want Cetek's success, time will if my faith is well placed.
Jim
The real question now is can they get big enough to justify their shares outstanding?
I hope we find out about a acquisition real soon. I suspect that it will be a plant in the orient somewhere, or maybe Mexico.
Jim