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flush once to go downstream, twice to go up stream
in 2007 or 8 or 9, following assurances from everybody that counted, i invested my wife's retirement money in F&F pfds. i paid close to face value for most.
the pfds did drop to 20 cents a share!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
are those thieves going to make good and give my wife's money back to her, ore the feds going to stall for another 8 years,
if you bought at 20 cents on the dollar, you overpaid by quite a bit,
so, when i was a kid, every now and then we would throw a cheery bomb in an outhouse.
probably not.
"Whitney Tilson not pumping Fannie anymore". Not sure if he sold. he probably sold a month ago. check out this guy's investment record. he may write a good book, but his investment record is really lousy. really, really lousy
once again, a day late and a dollar short.
yes, i think it runs up a bit more, but i thought that 3-4 years ago, and it tanked so badly, they had to find anew name for really bad taking
possible berkowitz/paulson lawsuit for back-dividends on jr. pfd
common shares worthless in this scenario
you have a reference for that?
beware who you are sleeping with. If she is a perfect 10 and you are a 5 or below, she is probably using you.
what you talking about? the other board has the pot smokers
what is a tape bomb?
get as much as you can
sound like the trump moto to me
i should sell Valeant and Sears going bankrupt, i should sell both? i hold none, now what coach? short them?
the layers do not make $1500 an hour. the company may charge 1500 per. but that does not go to the atty.
"TRADING" implies someone is buying and someone is selling. fnmfo does not trade. bids 0, asked 0. when i had a bunch of stupid to commit, i offered to buy a couple fnmfo at market price. only a couple of shares. i got none. i tried a few more times, "no sale".
there was a convertible that disappeared a few years ago. i bought a bunch of them.... they converted to common.
what are >"P" shares?
i hope i live long enough to collect on the pfds. i'm 78 now, and things do not look good. for pnp to pay, that is.
do not remember the numbers, but when fnN. were in for 170 b, the cbo was claiming risk loss of between 0.500 T and 1.00T. also, the whole 170 B was not pure loss as claimed.
" he allegedly asserted that Fannie Mae had "about zero percent" exposure to subprime loans.
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well it was 170 billion, but that was our of 4.5-5 trillion. close to zero when we compare numbers.
one does not file when one starts "legal action" i think i visited with attys from the biosE group about2010. so in 2012, , when they were in prep mode.
what does this say? as an outsider, i have no idea what you have sed
i held/hold 14 or 15 flavors of fnF pfds. in '08 all paid a dividend.
who just sold 3 shares to the bid? manipulation or just keeping the share price in check for shorts? Lol.
that is probably the MM teaching someone a lesson.
I see them on the bid all day fnma FMCC
what program/software can i procure that will allow me to access that information?
Anyone remember KBW's famous/notorious ratings of the GSE's since 2008?
yes, i remember. guy had a funny first name like bose. i wondered how he would be able to keep the job if fn. survived.
within some limits, one can register any web name that is open. one can also use any name as registor. i thought AT had been barred from the google site, but he must have done a perfect act of contrition and gotten back in.
AT is behaving much better than in the past.
i think that's the same thing you said a year ago, and the year before that.
???i thought big ask side means peoole are bailing. when the bid side gets big, we got buy intrtrest.
i thought all gsa bonds still paid dividends.
i'd rather bet my money on the bob tailed nag. i think alpha is probably a better deal., but have not looked into either
i think a bigger worry is the new big dog may cut dividends again. however, the price of the stock seems to have stabilized, and the spanish govt seems to also have stabiized financially.
i show san currently owning no greek debt. there may be some in that batch of other banks they own.
as recently mentioned, chear up, it could be worse. sure enough, it is getting worse. maybe if fnma comes out with a decent quarter, the blood will stop letting.
take a brave man to short this baby. pays 10+% dividend interest, and even as an adR, dividends are quoted in spain, and carries spanish taxes. also offers a stock dividend in place of cash. i hold quite a bit of it. have for about 4 years. collect dividends in stock.
stock went from 10 to 7.5 with the dividend cut.
i put my wife's retirement mine into fnf pfds. the bonds paid off. this was 06-07-08. then her million of retirement became close to nothing. she was so good. i lost the retirement, and she did not cry, or yell at me. then a couple years ago, it crawled up to 40+ cents on the dollar. she really pushed to sell.
she did not yell at me when it crashed back to zip. the stocks are now $0.17 5o the srtocks are now 17 cents to the dollar, and i consider selling, because if i don't, her next husband will see the money.(i am 78).
t-fud returns
192 ,,, 1300 ,,, 14.8% ,,, 22-Mar
185.27 ,,, 1300 ,,, 14.3% ,,, 29-Mar
189.19 ,,, 1300 ,,, 14.6% ,,, 4-Apr
199.52 ,,, 1300 ,,, 15.3% ,,, 9-Apr
199.4 ,,, 1300 ,,, 15.3% ,,, 11-Apr
216.89 ,,, 1300 ,,, 16.7% ,,, 18-Apr
213.49 ,,, 1300 1300 16.4% ,,, 24-Apr
229.68 ,,, 1300 1300 17.7% 1-May
tfud index
v151.44 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.116492308 ,,, 17-Jan
153.12 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.117784615 ,,, 24-Jan
162.84 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.125261538 ,,, 30-Jan
156.03 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.120023077 ,,, 7-Feb
171.33 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.131792308 ,,, 13-Feb
194.61 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.1497 ,,, 0-Jan
191.43 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.147253846 ,,, 20-Feb
197.21 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.1517 ,,, 28-Feb
199.74 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.153646154 ,,, 7-Mar
,,, 1300 ,,, 0 ,,, 0-Jan
192 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.15 ,,, 22-Mar
185.27 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.142515385 ,,, 29-Mar
189.19 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.145530769 ,,, 4-Apr
199.52 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.153476923 ,,, 9-Apr
199.4 ,,, 1300 ,,, 0.153384615 ,,, 11-Apr
the t-fud index is 15.17.
"Seems to be quiet now and nothing but bashers screaming their lungs out on other boards."
what boards? i see a lot of bashing from conservative press.
don't sweat it. there is enough hate for obama(who is running the 35Billion show)that someone will rat him out. just give it the 4(?)weeks, and see what they come up with.
the lawyers in the black hats walk in an say "this is everything" and swear to it, they will be skating on the edge of disbarment if there is a treasure buried.
looks like OAO Rosneft is going to get hit with a big fine for taking yuko about 10 years ago. how does that effect the OAO Rosneft-sdrl deal?(over 100 billion dollars)
i have had a number of home loans in the past.
1. the banker is not your friend.
2. the bigger the bank, the worse the deal.
2.5 avoid bac, wfc, citi, and all the rest of that batch(for all your banking needs)
3. go to your friendly local bank. try 2 or three of them.
in the dc metro area, there are hundreds of them.
these clowns talk out of both sides of there mouth, and have a rectal disfunction. they do not know how to calculate the price of the stocks. as T-FUD index shows the average price is 36% of face value. but many are at 25 or so % of face. so the odds are not 2 to 1, but 3 or4 to one. do not know if they are worth 4 to 1. when 100 to 1, T-fool was badmouthing the deal. now at 2-1 the idiots have decided to do a cya, in case the stock runs up.