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Yes franck. Very frustrating. How will this all turn out? Time will tell.
"If investors don't like it they can sell."
Absolutely correct.
"They don’t have exact details yet or I am sure they would share them."
You have to pass the bill so you can see what's in the bill.
If they had any financing or licensing or any way to put value on InWith's $50/share guess they would have done it imo.
Unfortunately the proxy gave nothing that would induce any credible buying of EPGL IMO. If this were real or even appeared to be real EPGL share price would reflect that IMO.
Why would you sell then?
Why?
Interesting. I guess Hayes or PwC or whomever might as well sell as much as they could because they will get a set amount of shares of InWith no matter what?? So what incentive is there for them to keep any epgl shares??? Plus the lower the price goes the better as it is a buying opportunity for longs, back up the truck etc. So everyone wins. The last day of epgl trading Hayes should give out the real float, OS and AS numbers just to show all of us who is boss and who won the game. You and DD22 appear to have an interesting look at this as every tweet and PR resulted in more sells. Hilarious. All IMO.
Uh Oh. That means EPGL/InWith may have an issue if they are relying on the patents to generate that 50 billion or so? Or 5 billion? or $50/share to $500/share etc etc. Say it ain't so. IMO. Man I'm glad I don't have any serious $$$ sunk into this. The next year or two could be ugly. IMO.
You did?
But if they are working with epgl and their patent, doesn’t epgl and InWith make out ok?
So once they can no longer sell EPGL shares, how will they fund InWith? If InWith hasn't secured VC financing over the past year, how long can they go on, pay their employees, finance the prototype, pay shareholders for their shares, pay their office rent, etc????
Kura,
You don't have to read it now. But is that a good thing? Not sure. Good luck?
Good response. The thing is they could have easily said that or go ahead and say it.
Good question.
Interesting. That could be the only reason I guess??
The thing is, if they are going private, what difference does it make what the retail investor thinks? Every epgl holder could sell their shares and InWith could just go on right? Do they really need the retail investor? If epgl share price dropped to .000001 it wouldn't matter because someone on that last day will own those shares and covert to InWith. So Hayes could easily answer each and every question and do it honestly and let the chips fall where they may because InWith is going forward? At least he could get it off his chest. He could give the real EPGL float, say there is/isn't any secured InWith financing, declare the compensation to WSGR, give the share count or salary of the InWith management, etc etc and it would;t matter what anyone thinks because someone will get the 499 million or more epgl float shares and convert to InWith (as there is no cash buyout). IMO.
Yes. Live Q&A.
With a Q&A otherwise it would be useless imo.
I would jump back in full force (I kept a few shares for the fun of it) if we were given the information like a real company would do. They seem to resist giving us things like the float, managing member shares, is any money secured by InWith, etc etc. I’m not sure why but if they did then we probably wouldn’t be sitting here at less than a penny.
How about a Q&A conference call announced over the next 24-48 hours to answer any concerns and give us all the facts? Clear the air. Start this thing off on the right foot? Too many unknowns so I agree with you franck. I wanted so bad to believe that this all would work out. Darn.
With epgl being worth 10 cents shouldn't they be slapping the ask with those 1 million shares?
Unfortunately $50 InWith = .0080 EPGL at this point, less than 1 cent and nowhere close to 10 cents. I was hoping epgl would open at around 10 cents but now I have to wonder why it didn't? Who would sell knowing epgl is now worth 10 cents a share? Something is off. Something is just not quite right IMO. I think a conference call with a real Q&A would be very helpful for current investors and those thinking about buying in. What would be that harm??? Questions need to be answered in real time with multiple people listening and asking IMO. A conference call without a Q&A would be useless. IMO.
Wow. We were supposed to get the info on the VC funding by the holidays. That didn’t happen. Even with this price set why are they not saying that the money has been raised? If so then by whom? How can they back this $50 figure??? It’s almost like government statistics IMO.
If this 50 dollar number is real, then the price of epgl should open up at 10 cents a share tomorrow because who in their right mind would be selling now knowing epgl is worth 10 cents? We will see. Maybe wdco will disappear and show up at 10 cents?? Yeah right. Could happen. This 50 dollar number could have easily been on the proxy. Are they getting desperate??? KMA.
Originally InWith was supposed to offer a cash option vs taking the InWith shares. Now the "cash option" is some sort of "negotiation" with Mr Hayes. Things seem to change and they will change again IMO.
Why isn't the market reflecting value of the patents? The share price is sub penny? Something is not right IMO.
What if we abstain.....?
As doubtful as you have been I'm surprised you are holding on and considering buying.....
Stockholm syndrome???
deception is here, fluffiness is here, lack of facts is here, winter is here, etc
Franck.
They, not me, said they would file the paperwork. Read the old PR. They have failed over and over and over and over.....imo. Surprised the proxy was an epic failure??? Not me. I can't take it anymore. I'm done. IMO.
franck,
Years ago after the etc chill was lifted EPGL said they were filing to uplist. That would have been a good thing and maybe get momentum moving to even higher tier. Never happened.
Gman, You seem like a smart guy. Did you read the proxy?? Do you not have any questions that should be answered prior to the conversion to InWith? I sold most of my shares so that at least I won't lose everything. I could be wrong for doing that but there seems to be resistance to basic questions being answered and that makes me nervous. I hope you do ok? All of this IMO.
Yep. The proxy was the major opportunity to lay the facts out there. They blew it. Now consider any money in epgl as a total loss or sell to get at least something out of it. InWith is the same as epgl so expect the same bs over the next few years if it lasts that long. It’s impossible to get a strait answer out of them for even basic questions. For example what is the float? Has wsgr/InWith raised a single dime in financing? What is the compensation for the managing members? What is the so called equity stake of wsgr? Etc etc. shady IMO. I wouldn’t expect much from InWith. Even the name sucks imo. InWith? It’s like calling it picklejar. IMO.
You would think that information would have been in the proxy. But nooooo.
No problem. I don't blame you. Just trying to offer an alternative to the cheerleading epgl group that seeks no facts or truth. Have a good weekend.
No. It was a pure butt site. Not that the other ones are not good. I remember everyone wooing over some British chicks bottom. You posted some good photos. But since you post so many on so many sites I can see how you get confused. Either way have a good weekend and for goodness sakes get off ihub. lol.
LOL. You guys are bad!!
I started a private Facebook page:
InWith Inc. Shareholders With Good Questions
You may want to join. But you need my permission so no raunchy pictures. (I'm married).
The video "In a Pickle" has H8ster in it. I think it's hilarious....especially the doctor.
BTW I started a Facebook page "Inwith corp shareholders with good questions." Consider joining.
Didn't you used to be on a board that showed beautiful women butts??? Is it still active? I need help. Please!!
Shouldn't all the epgl share information be included in the proxy? That should clear it up. Plus the OTC site updates the share information after each trading session.....whoops.....except for the float. How convenient.
Same here. I hope hayes et al come through for you guys. I don't want to see anyone hurt by this. I hope gman is doing ok. He seemed to be really in this deep. Same with epglholder.
BTW my family is pulling for the Vikings......your quarterback seems like an awesome guy.