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well, lvlt is near buying point now theoretically (5.1) for a ST bounce (not guaranteed given the sharp rise)
you could've exited at 1st cycle close bellow 5.47
some 20 cents higher
and re-enter now (not exit)
too bad
personally I would have done today what you did on the gap day
.. sell right on the open at market at 5.8 or whatever
the reason was that I have noticed lower momentum yesterday
and that insured even less mom today which suggested fading of the open
you made lots of money though ;^)
GL
abx.to is a decent buy
now about 32 CAD
buy a bit now and more on dips
mid term upside about 10% ?
JMO
IMO upside is 1.14
horrible technicals
downtrend
no sign of bottom
I personally hate low volume stocks and don't know much about
GL
oh well, fwiw lvlt if
if now closes 1 hourly candle bellow 5.47 is an exit signal until next re-entry at about 5 to 5.1
there is no strong sell signal in sight and trend is up
JMO
GL
sage, lvlt goes on sheer mom as it is truly overbought ST. The speed is too steep to keep going too long.
It is hard to predict an exact ST top because the mom, but the mom faded today. Still enough is left for another day or two.
I believe it to continue up maybe for another day or two and then "rest" or correct for a couple of days before another push.
you got extra lucky there with this market helping from behind :)
You got out OK but after yesterday's close it became clear that wasn't OK anymore to be out.
I have to wait for a down move to get in (lvlt) which I consider
but I am toiling with intel for now
AMD P/E 90 vs INTC P/E 14 ...
good trading
got back in intel
hoped for 19.3x but not this time
the 19.5 was as low as they allowed it to go
solid bottom is not in place yet IMO
but who knows
green trades
sage, well well ... LU today packing a quarter of a billion horse trading shares but just a measly 2 pennies move.
another day or two and there it goes a full billion off the float..
unless it's ALA that buys with both hands I'd say it's big time distribution to late speculators
on the other hand it was a day on a falling vol and the previous big gain was preserved. This suggests holding.
if they announce now ... that the deal is off the stock can shed 20% like nothing given the overhead supply
just for fun
Hi PerfectSage, good to hear from you
trying to pin the bottom on intel at the moment
in and out in and out , made some money but not enough
Friday I had a bid at 19.45 ALL DAY LONG and "they" put an ask of 19.3x for long periods , not a second or two, but ... they did NOT sell me. "They" are nothing but thugs.
did you see that ..... half Billion horse trading volume on LU on Friday? If that was legitimate buying then OK but if it was speculative then it was one of the biggest dump operations I have seen and should provide with a rock solid resistance for a long time to come if it's left above.
hope you doing well
you might like this board
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=2593
at least we got the market opening
maybe we'll get the close too
is it possible not to get red-X's ?
couldn't log in. The site makes you feel like a paria.
Finally out of the blue the ID decided to be let go through..
But hey, then I can't access "View All Favorites"
Is this means the StockCharts is ... back to "normal" .. ?
is it possible by any chance while I'm in the annotate to refresh the annotate chart somehow without closing it ?
I agree that PLANNED maintenance window is best
joeqc, I suspect you are having a 'problem' with the settings in IE. It may have become corrupted
in the browser go in :
Tools /Internet Options /Advanced/
then scroll down in 'Browsing' and click/un-click "Reuse windows for launching shortcuts"
click 'Apply' / and 'OK'
this may solve the problem
p.s. what (hardware) it takes to have a multi-monitor setup with 2-3 monitors?
THANX
I think I got it
is it possible to have my own set of indicators and MA in "Gallery view" format ?
Whenever I try a form of 'Gallery' I only get a preset form where I can not change anything. What's the use of it then, I would like to have my own set of MA.
The sets I get is : 1st chart a 10min (with MA10,MA20,4 days), 2nd chart a daily (with MA50, MA200, PPO,CMF), 3rd chart a weekly (with MA40, PPO, and price relative to $SPX), and 4th a P&F chart.
it doesn't get any better in "ChartBook" view
I would like to have my own set even if limited but my own
is that possible?
TIA
good day folks
Unlike RB, this site is also allowing pictures and charts to be inserted
IMO this (board) may fly if it will be more 'advertised' (particularly on bad RB days) and especially if/after RB close down.
IMO RB is going to stay
The concerns Proshrt has are valid, but I think that HERE they will be minimized as there are likely way fewer people 'wondering' around.
Personally I think that RB is already scanned by the big players and it is there the danger to be noticed and played against by them.
I am not going to tell anyone what to do (come or stay there) but that's just my opinion
The important thing is to be able to keep in touch no matter what
good trading
everything's around energy
hi folks, would you please help me with an advice
based on your experiences what charting package do you think has the best value (price vs. features) with stockcharts
Basic ($95), Extra! ($190), ExtraRT ($310),
Basic+Murphy ($200), Extra!+Murphy ($280), ExtraRT+Murphy ($400)
http://stockcharts.com/corp/membership/services.html
also, is it worth having John Murphy's Market Message all the time or just some "seasons" (periods)?
What is your opinion of him on StockCharts site (I do not mean to criticize and I have his book, just how worthwhile is it)
also - do you know of any other charting service same or better if any? (just briefly, if better why so)
TIA
chicago you are dishonest. I'm gone!
You must be honest and show integrity if you want to judge. You seem to have a problem with that.
I did not attack no one
but I was attacked, and no one cared EVER
- "I don't have the stomach" by Beway (and see more)
- past teletruth ridicule of me
- and some more I forgot now, I think nt4life
well NONE was deleted (not that I care), but worse, nobody seemed to care and make a peace comment
now you deleted MY post (then I have to care). And it is the SECOND time that I have to put up with this insult over the wound
you punished the victim, yet again
I don't know who you are or what you are but you offended me (along with the board)
I contributed here very nicely. I can do way way more /better than I dare to show, but I gave enough. I don't owe to you guys a thing.
You as I said, offended me. Kicked (repeated offense!) a very good person instead of helping out.
I don't need anyone here.
As a result of your inept and dirty action I give you my word that I am gone from here for good.
This is my last post.
And don't hope to see my forecast on RB because since I was offended and insulted there as well of the like, I stopped contributing there with my crystal ball. You just ruined it for this board too LOL.
If you want to undo the damage and have me posting you must either:
> go back, find teletruth posts that I was ridiculed, delete it, and delete as well beway posts that he RECENTLY mocked me.
In case you can't do that you have option #2
> restore my post and apologize for your gross rude unfair approach
because that's what it was!
THIS IS MY LAST POST HERE
I'm sorry for Ben
Ben I take this opportunity to tell you good bye. I liked you as a person. I wish you all the best
beway, what a good timing from one like you
"I think you should get out now and don't ever look back"
:))
Dino, prices move in waves
some small , some large
Day trading is riding small waves. Long term traders try to ride longer waves. They all chose a length of wave they more or less understand. There is no point in rising $1 and then going down with it. So knowing your horizon is essential.
Waves are created by many factors. Interest rates is one of them. I'm sure you know others.
A holder is an imbecile (no pun), unless is the owner of the company or the business has huge upside potential. Even then potential is lost for not riding. Nowadays companies learned it and they also participate actively in trading - including Nortel!
Long are gone the days when they were doing just business operations. They make huge $$$ from trading ..... against you and me.
They announce buys but rarely if ever selling. You just notice that institutional holdings go down ...
Open a chart, say 2-5 years and tell to yourself what you feel like doing. If you don't like it, then look to smaller charts, until you see waves you like and feel comfortable riding.
Or, you can hold blindly and ride it around...
There are + and - to trade and hold. For example if the stock is stronger than your chosen wave ... YOU LOST POTENTIAL or even MONEY! It happened to me BIG TIME. 100s K $ !! If I would've hold like an idiot (longer waves) I would've got lots of money. For example I started to buy NT big time right 1 day after the 2002 bottom.. And that's not the only thing..
But while bitter I'm ok with it. I learned plenty.
I consider it the big fish that got away .. this time around ;)
one last thing, waves change, so if you see strength you should let it run and vice-versa when you are cut short of your expectations.
Trading is an extremely difficult job. You always have to fight the best and stronger than yourself. There is no mercy and no tolerance for mistakes.
Just few survive. The rest are just having fun..
beway, 1st,I did have the 'stomach' to hold this POS
so stop lying
You can not influence or dare me to buy, hold or sell this stock or any other stock for that matter. I think you have a problem in understanding that. My little son would understand that.
2nd, it takes way more guts to sell than to buy or hold
3rd, I'm not in love with any stock. If I see a problem I bail. I don't stick around to see how bad can it go.
I'm not interested in negative fun.
I don't really care about what dreamers like yourself look forward to.
I only believe in buyers and sellers. This is the behavior of the price.
The only friend and advisor I have is the price consensus.
Under no circumstance will take advice , especially financial advice from grumpy people. Emotions are for losers and novices. I paid for this lesson.
However, I do tend to pay attention to what people think as to see where the herd might be positioned..
So I do appreciate your posts as well.., well, the parts that are civil.
Speaking of witch, since you are suggesting you are more brave than me, did you commit all the NT funds on the long side? I expect you'd have the balls to answer this OLD question now that .. we're after the PR. Or am I wrong..
what happens when all the jobs are finally gone
to China, India
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/01/30/wgerm30.xml
chicago, excuse me? "supposed to come out today"?
What are you talking about?
I remember JANUARY
TO US
the INVESTORS. Remember us?
Are we in January? I don't think so. What was to them if it was released yesterday? I'd really like an answer to this.
IMO mbeaulieu is right to feel bad about the violation of the self-imposed promise.
Myself I feel disgusted.
I expect a person or institution to leave up to the given word.
That's the normal thing.
The PRESENT NT management is acting horrible. Sorry, but I doubt it was Frank responsible for the mess and cheating although he definitely was involved.
It gets me thinking forward to what can be expected from them toward us.
Since more book cooking can't be done for a while, it must be other things.
The only thing that can save us from their evilness is if the business picks up. IMO right now is small to dead in spite of hyping articles.
CSCO itself acts like a dead stock and this after severe sell off after sell off with no scandal attached to its butt and strong cash position..
cheers
Thanks Ben, you are a good person as expected :)
today is a special day
no educated guess can be taken before this PR is consumed into the market, unless you have few scenarios ready.
Even that is hard to do and would be highly speculative because you must first to see the news and then the intensity of the reaction to it.
It is a gamble at this very moment. That's all I could say.
Problem is, even after the PR I'm wondering what is next. This company promises to be volatile throughout 2005 with lots of PR related events. A very good place to trade if you could do it right.
This could attract the piranha traders, presently elsewhere.
I think by Friday we could take a stab to the near future.
cheers
p.s. is that ginger beer? why from hell, too spicy or too strong?
chicago, I'd say, better see IF Michael IS guilty
first
and only THEN to see if he goes away with it or not.
I don't take sides but if he did this (guilty) he's STUPID, but from all I could see he was a smart person in life.
Well, not socially. Oh yeah, that could be it (tip).
Will he do like Martha 6 months? Juvenile maybe...?
that sounds good Gytheon
Let's drink to that :)
Man peed way out of avalanche
A Slovak man trapped in his car under an avalanche freed himself by drinking 60 bottles of beer and urinating on the snow to melt it.
Rescue teams found Richard Kral drunk and staggering along a mountain path four days after his Audi car was buried in the Slovak Tatra mountains.
He told them that after the avalanche, he had opened his car window and tried to dig his way out.
But as he dug with his hands, he realised the snow would fill his car before he managed to break through.
He had 60 half-litre bottles of beer in his car as he was going on holiday, and after cracking one open to think about the problem he realised he could urinate on the snow to melt it, local media reported.
He said: "I was scooping the snow from above me and packing it down below the window, and then I peed on it to melt it. It was hard and now my kidneys and liver hurt. But I'm glad the beer I took on holiday turned out to be useful and I managed to get out of there."
Parts of Europe have this week been hit by the heaviest snowfalls since 1941, with some places registering more than ten feet of snow in 24 hours.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1261997.html?menu
what if he was a woman
be way, you make me scratch my head !?!?! :o
"I must say that I was impressed with their honesty and complete disclosure of the actions taken over the past year."
As I recall it was a horrible year for most of holders
Nortel "honesty" was the poison on the menu, and promises were broken easier than thought possible. It was a long pain.
I don't mind you pump the crap out of this POS as I also hold shares but you could find some real stuff to say as that kind just hurts rather than pump.
And fortunately there are positives lately that you can state and inflate as you wish
And no, is not the 300+ pages. What a waste. Who the hell decided that wasting form in a time they need every penny. They could've just mail a summary and have it full form on the net for whoever like to read it.
I guess they spent so much so far that they said "what the heck".
I didn't get it but surely I don't want it. Whenever I receive such stuff I just throw it away no matter from who.
Go Nortel
important question to the board about E/A
in your estimate when do we stand a chance to have NT releasing the PR ?
1) today AH
2) today - intraday (ultra-low volume today)
3) Monday morning before open
4) Monday - intraday
5) Monday AH
6) Monday very late at night
3) Tuesday morning before open (and find an excuse for it)
4) Tuesday passes and no PR (more promisses instead)
please chose some(thing) or make your own opinion
Tip - I have no clue, and I also have no trust (trust in NT damaged)
I like that gytheon, looking good :)
you bring good news lately
You tha man
now you're in charge of PR - keep it up
cheers
a definite yes chicago
"What if the indexes lose 25% of their value? Do you think NT (the stock) can face that pressure?"
and I'm not saying that to get few pennies on my (little) underwater shares.
NT demonstrated that can go against the market quite easily, and as a 2nd consideration the stock is really beaten down which should provide some discount on the outside pressure.
I know how the investors are doing with bagholding this crap, but now the REAL question is ... is this stock REALLY beaten down or we THINK it is? This is the key question.
... if in reality it's not beaten down enough then... just search for my lowest estimates ...
If the answer is yes (it is beaten down), then there's a (double) bottom here. The stock should either froth up some (1-2$) and slide with the market or go lifeless flat until the market bottoms.
Take your pick
and that's JMO
cheers
do you wanna see what's gonna happen to NT shorts?
http://www.seismicsciences.com/email/NAPE.htm
:)
very important data this settlement :)
However, I scratch my head.. "for 2 years" - why AGAIN 2 years keep popping up? Something is not kosher. It seems a potential setup (for a bend over)!
Better to keep in mind and mark - MID-JANUARY 2007 ! (if we live)
But we're here and now. Some signs point to a ST bottom. The last cycle is almost over and the cycles get smaller. If it crashes say Hi to 1.xx $US. Thinking about it, just doesn't seem possible without "support" from NT management !!!!
But the thing is .. it was provided in the past !
We run out of time and the chart doesn't tip us about good news, BUT NOR BAD NEWS. This is not right. It may mean that no matter what the news PPS will range here. Not great nor fair for a long position looking at all the risks taken.
Tomorrow it SHOULD get a technical pop. Better pray it closes at 3.80 $CDN (however -5¢) or better. Alternatively, if today keeps sucking, it should close higher than 3.85 $CDN by Wednesday
I'm a sinner, my prayers mean zipo.
cheers
some people from RB NT board really suck
it's a disgrace
$37 is very likely if next week doesn't close at 38.9x+
gytheon, truthful article, thx
"All of this misinformation, partial information and bad behaviour simply underscore the need for investors to rely more on technical analysis and less on earnings releases.
Consider the recent activity in the shares of Nortel before and after last week's big restatement of their 2001-2003 earnings.
The shares did nothing. The news was already in the stock. This came as a big disappointment to many speculators who bought call options in anticipation of a big price advance in response to a positive earnings report.
Last Thursday, the Montreal Exchange website listed the open interest for the January calls. A stunning 40,000-plus contracts are due to expire worthless next Friday unless the stock closes well over $4.
Don't hold your breath.
Our chart this week plots the weekly closes of Nortel above those of rival Cisco Systems Inc. of San Jose, Calif. Note the close price correlation operating between the two plots. I should mention that both stocks reached their initial manic peaks in March 2000. They both rallied through to September 2000 and then collapsed to introduce the great technology bear of 2000 to 2002.
Both stocks bottomed in October 2002 (to the week) and both subsequently rallied through 2003 to peak in January 2004.
Both stocks then declined through mid 2004 and then traced out a sideways basing pattern through year-end. This clearly illustrates that Nortel is a sector play and not an earnings play.
Our chart illustrates the smart money has already decided that Nortel's fortunes will ultimately be decided more on the fortunes of the information technology group and not necessarily on their corporate effort.
Keep an eye on those charts; it's the right thing to do."
BTW, the link is not leading anywhere :(
cheers
nice Ben, work is always good
I can't be too optimistic since I don't know or use much fundamentals, and from what I know it doesn't look too good. I bought strictly on technicals.
I know.. it went lower today but I did the mistake to look at the Canadian chart without comparing it to US. If I did I would've bought today few pennies lower. This because I was somewhat disconnected from Canadian NT chartwise for a long time for self imposed ban, but had to buy the Canadian side.
US chart is weaker (but truer?) while Canadian chart is 'stronger' (apparently laggard as Toronto was closed 2 days while NY didn't) .
I was a little pissed yesterday when I realized it.
Good news and bad (horrific) news:
While we're due for a bounce/rally and I see some up potential, the markets are weak. the horrific part is that NT price is DEEP into the shock area (NT manipulator was a shocker for a long time now!). A shock here could be massive (both ways!!!). To be "shock safe" (on the negative side) NT has to rise to around 3.7x US prior to the shock (provided one will come).
A shock can come with any excuse. The most realistic I can see are 3 - 1) delay of PR (killer I tell you), 2) massive write off (billions), 3) dead 2004 performance (killer too)
I hope none comes true, especially the 3rd one.
cheers and have fun ;)
not much joy around lately
however, I dipped a little and bought some at 4.08 CDN
put my diper on. Let's hope no more f'kn delay this month.
I especially like the BOD cleaning ;)
good luck out there
Ben, are you ok?
be_way, still waiting for you to say if you put all your nt cash in.
I guess up to Jan 10 midnight would've been appropriate.
After that it becomes fairy tale..
It's been days now - show some courage in the last minute will you
:)