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Mine have had a $40 sell on them for years now, so no borrowing those. As for me selling? Really what's the point. Kinda depressing to snag a couple hundred bucks when I can watch them whither and die......
Do you really think they may make a change to the criminal eval that they have apparently completely gotten away with while they yet continue stripping value and thieving money?
Or is it going to continue dropping each day, until the 22nd then zero $?
I've been around since the ANV early days, and have enjoyed our nightmare, thus far, but is it actually over on the 22nd or is something truly going to occur that will keep us hooked?
Thanks
HYMCZ - Is the nightmare over or what?
Why not sell? Isn't it over for us old bagholders?
Goodbye NYGSF and Goodbye Janet.
NTGSF News Release
Hello Arizona AGAUF (Soon to be Sabre Gold Corp).
AGAUF Home
AGAUF News Release
Hopefully the folks at Arizona know how to actually produce gold. Not just talk about it for years and years. I am so over hearing how wonderful it will be at some completely undetermined future date. Watching the stock dwindle into deeper and deeper depths.
After years of downward spiral, but somehow paying the execs, maybe we will see some action, some value for our trust and investment. Better than nothing I suppose. Maybe.
If this is anything like the destruction of Allied Nevada I think I might just go insane...
Max
You mean like they did with Nikola Motors?
Nothing to do with shorts (I mean really who shorts a actual penny stock). Has everything to do with management sitting on their hands with their thumbs up their collective (pay collecting) arses.
Constant promises, constant, we are carefully studying the constant drilling info and the gold rich leach pad. Meanwhile we have invested in a secret sauce method to make gold greem! No money, maybe in a few years, but we can spend money.
TIME TO PROCESS THE F'ING PAD! Enough already.
Nope, time to spend. Buy another non-operating mine full of potential, for shares. Water down the current shares. Yippie. Bet the drill results will be awesome.
Max
Swapped what warrants for stock? Smarter how?
Not bad, 2.5 HYMCZ + 40.29, and we get 1ea HYMC = $6.50.
That is some serious Bizarro world sweetness right there.??
Tradernick,
But what are the warrant conversions for HYMCW and HYMCL?
Do they have to buy each share for 2.5 warrants plus 40_ dollars per share?
I know the market has always been rigged against the retail investor, and the common shareholders get screwed all the time, but man ANV so blatantly open faced screw you , fcuked all of us it is really crazy.
Done the sec filing, done some postings, put in a bid for another 1K warrants, placed current warrants for sale at 42.50. ??
max
Oldie but goodie
While waiting for current news how about a shout out to the past:
https://www.sec.gov/divisions/enforce/claims/chang-everbright.htm
Max
Tradernick, seems that they have done all those things and more, yet here we sit with less than worthless Z's.
How so, she purchased PUTS?
HYMCZ
Anyone read this BS in the latest 8K?
"As a result of the adjustments required under the Seller Warrant Agreement, (1) the exercise price of each Seller Warrant decreased from $44.82 per share of Common Stock to $41.26 per share of Common Stock; and (2) the number of shares of Common Stock issuable upon exercise of each Seller Warrant increased from 0.25234 to 0.27411. Accordingly, as adjusted, the aggregate number of shares of Common Stock issuable upon full exercise of the 12,721,623 outstanding Seller Warrants increased from 3,210,213 shares to 3,487,168 shares of Common Stock."
So another year almost gone, and still doing studies, drill holes, blah blah blah, PROCESS THE HEAP! Brewery made money at 300, its now 1800, will be 2100 by summer. How about we do some processing instead of talking about opportunities.
Why would anyone buy a million+ (or sell for that matter) shares of this?
I know us bag holders that management ripped off so blatantly would like to see a proper warrant price, but movement like this is kinda crazy. Or more malfeasance.
Whoo Hoo! Are you saying that it will be only another 5 years or so of money draining legal proceedings and I will get my nickel back?
F'ing A. I knew this was a good investment. :D
I'm sure it will get busy in here as they get off their collective arses and quit studying the leach pad and actually crush it and re-leach.
For crying out loud, they were making money on the old leach at like 300 bucks before they shutdown when gold dumped that few years ago.
At 1800.00, enough with the years long feasibility studying and lets crush some f'ing ore. :P
I am so tired of hearing about how wonderful its going to be someday, how much ore they have been finding, what wonderful methods they have been developing, how great the models seem to be, we are accelerating our plans, because of how wonderful it is and gold at 1800.00, but still no dates or actual movement of old pad.
I am beginning to wonder if Predator is just another junior scam.
None are true, exactly.
You pay 44.8-ish (current price) + 3.964 Warrants for 1 share HYCM
So if you have 100 warrants,
You can buy 25 HYCM for 1120.00 and will have .23 warrants left over.
The expiration date is Oct 22, 2022.
That is the information provided to me by Merrill Lynch.
Now, one thing you might be able to do, for funsies, is have HYCM issue official certificates for your warrants.
Hassle for them, and you get the joy of wiping your arse.
:P
Max
And what was that agreement?
Investor Relations Hycroft Mining Holding Corp.
I requested information on what to do with the HYCTW's..
"...While I can’t advise you on what to do with the warrants, I can tell you that the warrants are not in the money. If you were to hold them the share price may exceed the warrants exchange ratio prior to their expiration, or you could sell them on the OTC..."
I requested information from Merrill-Lynch:
"...I see where it says as of 6/1, the exercise price is $44.82 per share, and each warrant may be exercised into .2523 shares of HYMC... From what I see, the current price of the stock is about $10.44. So at the moment, it does not make economic sense to exercise the warrants..."
So to summarize, if I wanted to convert my warrants it would cost 44.82/share + 3.964 warrants.
If a person had 100 warrants:
You could buy 100 x 0.252324.23 = 25 shares of HYMC for only $1130.81.
Which would immediately become valued at 263.00, so you would only lose 868 bucks!
I realize that some/all of this is old hat to many of you, but I was not getting what you were all laying down amongst all the chatter.
Now excuse me please, I have an urgent need to rub some soothing gel on my arsehole....
Maxwell
Bruce,
Thank you for replying about UTOG on the UTOG board. <edit> I am <edit> looking to you, as someone who obviously has more knowledge about UTOG than I, for what might be our direction forward with UTOG.
Whether that is in some form trying to wrest control of the floundering UTOG, or how we, shareholders of record in UTOG, insure that we are inline and/or prioritized for any monies that are made via UTOG production or UTOG asset sales. Before they are siphoned off by others?<edit>
I stand ready for recommendations on how to move forward with UTOG.
Bruce, do you have any other manner of contact or boards yu frequent? I'd love to discuss UTOG without writing 30 times and hoping I can post.<edit>
Please note I am not asking, or discussing any other stock except UTOG. <edit> I am specifically looking to discuss UTOG on this UTOG board, with like minded UTOG investors. Hopefully with ones that have more knowledge about UTOG and how we may move forward with UTOG, than I.
Max
Class Litigation - any join?
Bruce, are we still going anywhere with UTOG? Have we received enough support yet? I would think, given all the investors, that coming up with a couple K bucks should be easy.
I mean they where pumping oil and if the execs are gone, perhpas they are making some money somewhere.
Max
Bruce4653, have you given up on us?
Bruce,
I am willing to drop in some money as you propose.
Max
As stated, at that time they were up to date. But forgetting that, what peeves me to no end, is the suddenness, excruciating turn around time for government work, and MOSTLY the f'ing secrecy around it all.
If you are going to halt a public company, give the reason for the public halt, what laws/rules you believe have been broken that gives you the right to halt, enough to cost all the shareholders their investment
I have been through several halts that proved of no consequence, except for destroying shareholder value. As well admittedly that proved to be some issues and the companies were fined several million dollars, and again, the shareholders suffered egregious losses. Fines are nice, but if the money isn't given to those that were wronged or suffered, what is the point?
So while I agree oversight needs to be done, I do not agree that it should be done in a veil of secrecy, as well as no accountability by the overseers. And if a company is fined for making false statements, etc, the the money should be given to the non-insider shareholders.
So what I am saying is, if the SEC or even Nasdaq, halts or delists, then we should all be able to see why, and at what point in the process they are at, with a time line. Not the open ended BS that results in never knowing what is really happening until one day in the future that company just goes dark.
Max
Whitedog, you are not alone.
Maxwell
Bruce,
Thank you very much for your efforts. I know it doesn't seem like it sometimes, but many of us are quite appreciative. We all bought the story and promise and while the story is not over, the promise has not been kept alive. Transparency. Was among the many promises.
I for one am tired of all the secrecy that surrounds a request from Nasdaq, or the SEC or FINRA. With the exception of usually blaming the other party for the delays, everyone seems to clam up like it is some great secret and a material item. I have found that many times when finally divulged, it was neither. There is very little reason NOT to keep shareholders apprised of what the SEC has requested, what we have provided and to whom, and where it is in the process.
If the SEC says on such and such a date, we want 1-2-3 and 4, and the company says they have supplied 1-2-4 and 5 on such and such a date, why would this information be secret? Does the SEC have a habit of requesting industrial secrets and shutting down companies while they wait? I think not.
Specifics.
Why are we shut down and what are they waiting fro and how long will the wait be. If we knew that the company was being forthright and what was actually being done, we as shareholders should be able to shout out to the SEC and others, for a date. Considering the financial hardship that SEC involvement always takes on all of us. The SEC should not have such power that they can hang you out to dry without any timeline.
Once upon a time we had a chance, but with each passing day it dwindles tremendously. I think there is no doubt that we will not see any funding from anyone with this hanging over our heads. I mean who in their right mind would invest in a company that has been halted, de-listed, not been paying employees, etc. They will wait and pick up the pieces on the cheap.
So yes, I am disappointed, but no, I have not given up. Please let me know if I can be of assistance in some way. Meanwhile, I must work overtime to make up for the losses incurred by SEC involvement on this and another stick.
Maxwell
Add me as a concerned investor.
Bruce,
Are you going to share the response from Smyth?
Max
27 Days left on grace Nasdaq period. Ideas anyone? Thoughts? Will we be seeing a sudden 1:5/1:10 rev-split? Have they bought up more of the float, or buying up more? Would it help? Any one more in touch with shipping industry know of any rabbits they might have? Takeover? Still long and holding, but quite curious as we approach a potentially ugly day.
Max