This is a ZTE press release. I wouldn't call it reporting.

Google Q2 revenue up 22%.
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Isn't VRNG's 2nd appeal brief due today?

Yoiks! Time to panic...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/short-interest-piling-vringo-vrng-110509743.html

lawsuit...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-20/vringo-sued-by-investor-over-high-executive-salaries.html?cmpid=yhoo

Show me where I've even commented about insider anything. Nice try, Mister Moderator.

Regardless at your attempts to spin the narrative, let's face it, $30K is small timing it.

Looks like a token gesture. Cheap bastard could've opened his pocket book a little wider.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1410428/000114420414028600/0001144204-14-028600-index.htm

Why buy a law firm when you can just hire them? Why buy a company that has patents when you can just license them?

I see no logical reason for anyone to buy Vringo.

room to go higher...
http://www.benzinga.com/news/14/01/4263441/james-altucher-still-holding-vringo-says-has-room-to-go-much-higher

Do your own research, Mister Lazy.

No, we have to wait until the patents have expired. Then we get nothing.

I'm brewing this Saturday. More fun than watching this stock.

This goes back to what I said before - why get two more when each side will only get someone that agrees with them? Or paid somehow to agree with them! Still leads me to believe the judge just isn't confident in making the decisions that need to be made.

How do you think they'll get an expert without some sort of compensation (for time, travel, hotel and meals)?

Well, if the judge ever does eventually figure this out correctly, and the work around is declared the farce that it is, there will be no denying that it infringes and that it's willful. The RR should then be set above 3.5%. My guess is somewhere between 3.5 and 5. But then who knows!

I'm sure the judge is trying and I'm sure he's a smart dude. It's just that for the layman, you put some source code in front of them and their eyes glaze over. I've tried to teach programming to people with a lot more IQ points than myself, and they just don't get it. Must take a certain aptitude in order to understand.

Also, the judge having each side get new "independent" experts makes no sense to me, like the understanding of how to decide this complex issue is worrying him. Otherwise, I see no logical reason new experts and new opinions need to be brought in. Obviously, each side will bring in experts that agree with their case. Duh!

I wouldn't be worried about the work around. It appears the filtering code is the same but with only it's triggering happening at a different time in the order of execution of New AdWords. Doesn't matter in what order you put the infringing code - filtering is filtering - it infringes the patents.

True, with this reordering of the code, New AdWords would be less resource intensive, which is something they should've done long ago, but that doesn't matter - the overall design is still the same thus it still infringes. Just remember that program design and program code are different things, and the patents are really about program design. Google's purporting that this change constitutes non infringement is laughable.

The real risk is that it will all ride on how well an old man who probably doesn't know jack squat about the internet, computers and programming will be deciding the outcome. My fear is that he won't understand and, instead of hammering Google as he should, will split the difference due to his own uncertainty.

The judge needs to bring in his own damn expert.

Ranking and sorting is filtering. Do anything to modify/enhance results is filtering.
I also doubt that Google was running out of server space.

Like with the New Adwords source code, Google wants to see if you can find and differences.

Since both experts apparently agree on the process of the workaround (according to Google), but disagree on colorability, it'll be interesting to hear those arguments.

Nobody cares if you want a short term move in the share price so you can day trade it.

I was wondering if payers got all of the advertising too (I'm not a payer). Get used to it - the whole web is becoming one great, big, annoying pain. Try a browser ad blocker or mod your hosts file, which is what I do.

People are laughing at Google.

I hope we'll be laughing too pretty soon.

Thanks for the summary. I really didn't know what was going on here.

Without context, it can be hard to tell what the code is really doing (especially if written in a way that purposes disguises it's purpose). The design of the workaround is what's really important - more so than the actual "plumbing" of the source code. If I was VRNG, I want to see a schematic/flow chart that shows how New Adwords' workaround functions.

At this time, HJJ does not know if New Adwords is real or not, and neither do the rest of us. We'll have to wait until Sept 25.

This would be good news if New Adwords relied on Bowman.

Stock is down because it's dead money until Sept. 25. Wouldn't be surprised if went below $3.

Exactly.

Whatever is supplied by GOOG, whether source code and/or high level process schematic, it will be immediately apparent to VRNG if the workaround is real or not.

Now there we have it Google is using Lang's patent...

Wow. You sound like a first year student who just took an introductory SQL course. Sorry, but you don't know jack.

I'd have to question your negotiating skills if you feel the need to insult those you don't agree with. However, if you feel you are correct and are confident that programmatically there is no possibility at all for a non-infringing workaround, then you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Such certainty should be a great comfort to all. Good luck!

I don't think you read my posts - you're arguing points I never made. But whatever, good luck to you, sir!

Agreed - it was a scare tactic. If you don't understand what's going on (i.e.: the patents and the technology), then you're essentially gambling your money and "hoping for the best". My position and intentions are as how I've stated them. Good luck to you, sir!

After August 25th, tactics will be over and done. Everything will be clear - whether New Adwords infringes or not. If it infringes, Vringo would never settle. If it doesn't Google would never settle. If New Adwords doesn't infringe, the share price will dive - buy back in then at a lower price as the market over reacts downward.

Mark your calendars... August 25th could be huge. Google must provide evidence of the workaround.

If this evidence isn't sealed, we'll be able to see clearly (those of us that understand search tech) whether or not it's real. If the workaround is real, either sell or hope ZTE comes through big time. If the workaround is BS, then Vringo's experts will easily make Google look like insane fools and the judge will hammer Google to the tune of 7% (hopefully even more).

Comes down to a crap shoot, folks. New Adwords' process could be altered to the point, and use enough new technical terminology to make it difficult to prove if it infringes or not. Or it could be a new and unforeseen process, which is better or equal to Lang's patents. I'm a programmer, web developer and have written search software for a Forturne 50 company, so I'm not a total idiot on the subject.

I'm long but may reduce my position while I'm ahead. If the New Adwords looks real, I'll sell and buy back in lower and wait for the ZTE results.

If Google knows New Adwords is BS, there should be a settlement before August 25th. If not, that will be another tell that the workaround is real.

Corrections are great. Take your profits and then buy on the dips, dude.

B/S ratio 3.7 but we're only up a penny.
http://finance.avafin.com/tradeFlow?type=BS_RATIO&symbol=vrng§orId=0&industryId=0