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Another thing I dont understand they give us a few thousand shares for the new company. Now these same crooks are buying millions of shares from offshore accounts on insider trading. they keep stealing from the estate and noone cares or are happy to get the scraps while they take the bigger piece of the pie. While Willierat says, Ohhhh we didnt know it was trading go ahead we have no control over our friends if they want to keep bleeding the state. I really dont get what all the happiness is all about. May be Im the only one mad about what all has transpired here
If he gets out smarted on our account we got screwed, you get it?
Sussman sucks, he got outsmarted. Rosen walked all over his firm and left with a big smile. The fact that he got hired again by Willie tells me he is as crooked as the rest of them. You think he cares about the outcome of this case? He wants to get paid and exhaust the cash funds that are available. When the cash is gone he will leave no regret no remorse.
This is the kind of nonsense Im talking about. Why would JPM or anyone of that stature care about paying someone to manipulate this board. They dont care about what people say in here. Maybe a daytrader who wants to make a quick buck but I doubt it would work.
UMAW and jhdf51. I dont like people saying how good of a lawyer Suckman is when he has basically given away all our assets to JPM for free and taking away our right to sue. I also dont like people saying all the many riches we are gonna get on our LTI without proper proof. You guys don't like me because Im in the 5% naysayers on this board which is fine. I myself like to base opinions on facts not speculation, faith or dreams. To me the only facts are that Suckman got us a shitty deal and Willierat is keeping us in the dark with no future plan. Sorry if you dont like me but this is the truth and my opinion.
When u see the escrow settlement for 0.27 you will end up MUTE
When they figure it out this thing will drop like a heavy stone under 0.30
well I just checked my escrow shares and they still are at $0 and my WMIH shares are at 0.68 may be yours report something different thru your CRYSTAL BALL.. By the way this are facts no speculation.
Yeah so you keep saying, you have at least another 3 years to repeat yourself. I for one aint buying it... I'll remain conservative and say we might get something some day but way far below your expectations..
We know there has been insider trading by the recent spike in the last few weeks, no surprise. That does not mean there is going to be a change of ownership. There is no smoke and mirrors they are just following SEC rules. Wikipedia is your friend,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_5
So nothing is unfolding same old crap different day
Hahaha you are so wrong, no one is going to jail lippy. They all have a free out of jail card, remember. suckman and company got outsmarted by the best in the business. Willie should have hired Someone else to go against Goldman, this is now another lost battle....
GO4 why you like to torture yourself? I'm giving you easy way out. Put this Wamu business behind you and you will become better person and be able to spend more time with your love ones. You are wasting your time here and convincing others to waste their time. This is a done deal it has been for quite some time. Rosen and walrat won, LTI will be there nothing you can do just get a little bit of money or never get anything. WMIH same story as wamu delay delay delay and steal whatever is left, don't you get it yet? Don't be so hard headed. Cut your loses and run. Don't be crying a river when you find 3 years from now I was right and was trying to help you.
Try to put this terrible WAMU experience behind us. Lets not try to open old wounds that might not have healed properly.I promise if you try you will be able to forget and look for new horizons. There are other plays out there. Say goodbye to WMIH ihub page and your WMIH ihub buddies and spend more time with your family or lover. Those moments will be more fruitful than staring at the WMIH IHUB page 24/7. It was a good dream while it lasted. Merry Christmas and wish your new path lead you to other riches spiritual or other.
No people just dont like to hear the truth!!
Lets say for argument sake that in your best wildest dreams Goldman gives a settlement of $2B x 25%=500M/1.4B=0.35cents give or take depending on outstanding shares. I would roughly make 12,000 for 100,000 shares that I have. What kind of settlement is that. Would you be happy with Suckman to get that after 4 years of waiting. Well I guess is better than nothing but does not make me jump up and down with exitement. Now I have never heard of a $2B settlement may be this will be a first but I doubt it..
Uz the fact that you are happy with SUCKMAN AND THE SHITTY DEAL HE GOT US does not mean we have to be happy or impressed by him... does it?
Yes people is taking advantage of this not supposed to be trading stock especially with the price drop. They will slowly but surely take the money that is supposed to be ours, thanks to our heroes Willie and Suckman
24% of $22=$5.28. Lets say $5 x 1.7B shares=$8.5B Hahahahah Is Suckman gonna sue Goldman for no less than $8.5B. Not in there best day....
The best course of action for everyone here is to put this poppy to rest. There is nothing you can do about it anymore. This fight was lost a decade ago. It is time to move on.... Better luck on your next endeavour
Yep they are taking what little left is on the carcass while we dream about riches Sad Story!!! Instead of maximizing our investment they are diluting us, then you have people say Willingham and Suckman are heros, that's what gets me people still on denial.
As much as I would like that to happen my common sense tells me it will be a miracle to even reach $1. I just dont see Goldman Sachs giving off a $1B settlement. In my opinion we could have gotten the guru's 2x value plus if it wasn't for Suckman and Willingham but they sold us out and JPM and FDIC got away clean with our releases and gave us the finger giving us the scraps. They bought Walrat, Roserat, Hochbergrat, willierat and everyone else they wanted. The cold truth is that money can buy everything. These guys are above the law and are untouchable..
Nick what is funny is peoples faces when they see 0.23 cents a share recovery for LTI. Its gonna be heart broken situation.
Maybe he gave you an "I owe you" card?
Haha war hero, but he sold you out he has not protected your investment while he is making his money back by charging the estate. You can believe in this dude all you want but I dont trust him. Why would you trust someone that keeps you in the dark. Right now the BOD is charging us for doing absolutely nothing and giving themselves shares. Do you think this Willingham guy cares about you or any other investor? Let me tell you secret he is watching out for his own skin. Im sorry but if all you have for this guy is hope that somehow and some day he will do the honorable thing and protect your investment I PITTY YOU..
Damn I love to see when my account is making me money.
A very good summary of what happened to WAMU since 2008. you can find here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Mutual
Also the list of largest bank failure in US history by far WAMU at the top: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_U.S._bank_failures
You have to give it to Demon he pulled out the biggest theft in human history and got away clean. He will be the next US Secretary of Treasury if he wanted to, no doubt.
Give it up GO4 we have been distributing funds for a long time but we havent seen anything yet and is very probable we never will get anything or get very little. This is a lost investment it has been for quite a while. whatever is left its been hidden for other parties... We got terminated by Rosen and Walrath and we won't be BACK!!!
Yeah right if they had programmed their computers to fund our accounts with all the false predictions this board has made for the last 4 years I would really be rich by now. In any case we shall soon see who is right...
yes there was court today apparently to discuss the LTI or scrow account. However whatever was discussed there is still unclear to me..
I hold a lot more shares than what they gave me for conversion. The 7B share is obviously someone with inside info that wants to profit in the short term. Besure to sell before he does. I aint gonna be the last one holding the bag this time around
You should just buy now, so I can make a bigger profit.
If you got money to throw away then I guess it does not matter.
Fair enough but if that is the case they will probably pay peanuts for they have done, so dont expect a huge recovery unless they go to court and found guilty which may be hard to prove as we have seen with JPM
I dont know why people get so easily exited about anything. There could be many years ahead of litigation for us to see any dime. It took 4 years litigation for JPM to give us the finger. Could be the same thing for Goldman Sachs. Besides noone has proved foul play even if they have done it before does not mean they did it to WAMU. Suckman may be looking for an excuse to do what he does best charge the estate. Exactly he sees an opportunity to make money plain and simple. His deal has given worthless escrow shares and a company worth .47 cents that has nothing but a promise to cash some OL that's about to expire. You know there is a chance this new company might never make it. The fact remains most of us have lost our investment and are wishing for unicorns to get it back. Well noone is gonna gift the state any money they rather spend it on lawyers to maintain their position in front of public eyes. Please keep things in perspective and dont get sucked on other peoples dreams. You might get hurt....
haha, you got that right just like the lost list of assets
Damn, SUCKMAN again!!!he didnt charge enough the first time
Im such an idiot I just bought some more, I got to stop reading this board. It is a bad influence on me. Thank you bk I knew this was all an unicorn theory. I shall sell my position immediately.
Timmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeee is on their side YES it is, YEs it is!!!
Yeah but fsson said if this was to happen we would get 2B out of 8B so they would pocket 6B. What a joke...