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Jarsh,
LOL, yes I did. Wishful thinking perhaps. I wasn't happy to see he and Brady Anderson leave in the Mike Boddiker deal.
I am glad he came back to finish his career with Boston. Hopefully Roger will as well.
Thanks for catching my error.
AL East dominating tonight
Red Sox win 6-3 behind David Ortiz three run homer. Schilling wins his 297th career victory and Jon Papelbon gets his 12th save.
Yankees over the Rangers 8-1 in 6th.
Blue Jays up in the 9th 13-3 over the struggling Angels.
Tampa and Oakland yet to start.
We both know why Damon didn't get one.
Sox lead 2-1 in the 4th. Lowell with two doubles.
Toronto leads the Angels 3-0 also in the 4th.
Kevin Millar just came up,
his first at bat in Fenway since leaving. He got a very nice ovation, much different that Damon received.
Excel,
Is there a way to take that deleted message out of my mailbox?
Thanks!
[edit] never mind, I figured it out.
Bull,
I was going to post back to you today. The board at Fenway does now have the Yankees at the top of the leaderboard.
To me though, two teams at the same point in the GB column will always be tied. Just the same as if Boston is listed ahead of New York due to the alphabet with identical records.
Percentages don't matter unless it is at the end of the season. Anything else is semantics.
Don't be sexist
sorry if I don't go back to a specific post before I comment. I responded to your last comment to me.
Susie,
You are misunderstanding me again. My comment wasn't about conservativism or liberalism it was your comment for me to "give it up".
You Yankee fans do have a gang up, pile on mentality even if you don't do it conciously. That was what I was posting about.
Furthermore, this is the second time in the last couple days you made a "Derf" reference in a post to me. I have no idea who you are discussing.
Back to baseball, Seanez and Tavares gave up their usual gopherballs and the Red Sox needed to bring in Papelbon to nail down the victory, 7-4.
I wonder,
if Beckett does have some shoulder problems. He has gotten lit up the last three games and has to face the Yankees next.
The real steal in the deal with the Marlins to this point has been Mike Lowell, great defense, well north of a .300 BA and a doubles machine.
I thought last year was an abberation for him and he would bounce back, but he has done a fantastic job.
Beckett I am beginning to worry about.
Susie,
I would love to believe that but lately all you have done is be in attack mode. I never remembered you being that way at Raging Bull. Perhaps I need some smilies or LOL's from you to know when you are kidding.
It is hard to read intent on a message board, just as Neb misinterpreted me.
Susie,
Your hatred and venom are showing. You take this stuff to personally. ROFLMAO
Bill,
Nope, I do remember a lot of talk about him doing it though. Funny that Gorman would consider it disrespecting the game when switch hitters were around.
Bill,
I think Greg Harris did it for the Red Sox, or at least talked about doing it.
Bill,
Seems I remember hearing that someone did it. I don't remember who or when though. I never heard of that college rule though, it sounds like a dumb one his school ought to of tried to get repealed once they knew of his skill.
Pretty area,
I've been to Scranton a couple of times and really enjoyed it.
Chuck, (ot)
What coal mining area are you in?
NO,
I did say that, but you aren't refuting my comments you are throwing a Red Herring into them by comparing him to Ortiz and Manny who aren't even in the article or my post.
So do you feel the New York media and endorsements, etc. don't tend to create the publicity and expectations of the two New York teams? Those were my points in posting the article in the first place. If you noticed I said that wasn't the players fault (other than choosing to play there, obviously).
Chuck,
Sorry but it wasn't me that said it, it was the New York Post and I was only correcting your impression since you evidently didn't read the article.
It wasn't my words it was a poll taken by SI of Major League Players. So he received that percentage of the vote as the MOST overrated. Other players received the remaining 91% but that does not mean 91% don't think he is not over rated. That number wasn't in the article just other players received the votes as MOST overrated.
If you don't like it, complain to the Post or SI.
I think the fact that the top three were all from New York says the media does over hype local players. The fact that being in New York makes it easier to get endorsements and thus, visability is also a factor in public perception.
A Mike Mussina or even an AAron Small, once in New York gets a lot more press than say a Ben Sheets will.
Bull,
I go by the standings at Fenway Park. ;)
Bull,
By practically all defensive measurements, and I don't necessarily subscribe to them all, I admit, Jeter is far from being the best defensive shortstop in the AL. GG doesn't mean much these days, Palmero won one a couple years ago only playing less than 30 games at first the whole season.
Linchuck,
Do you know what a red herring is? You pulled the Jeter, Ortiz and Manny stuff out of the air when the conversation was about Jeter being overrated. It had nothing to do with Manny or Ortiz.
It's called trying to change the subject, and the subject was that other players feel that Jetes and A-rod are overrated.
I also don't know why you are bringing it back up twelve hours later, give or take.
Yankee fans are good at these tactics when the news is negative about their team.
I think it was good for Torre to give Wright a chance against the Devil Rays. They have a good lineup but their pitching was less likely to contain the Yankee bats. Smart to set him up for success.
Papelbon gives up first run of the season,
Red Sox fall to Toronto 7-6 as Jason Varitek takes a called third strike with the tying run at third base. BJ Ryan gets the save.
Ortiz goes 0-5.
I see it as
5:2 Houston they offered him the same money as last year pro-rated for the season and may go a little higher
3:1 Boston as a student of the history of the game he probably would like to go out with a retired number and beating Cy Young out as the number one all-time Sox pitcher.
10:1 Yankees well Roger has always been about the money but I doubt he wants to go back. He has already had the Yankee experience and will always have that on his resume. However, if he wants to burn the very last bridge he has to his fans in Boston it would be going to New York.
100:1 Texas Just don't see any reason to pitch in that launching pad
Yep, it's baseball season all right,
as we get into the season it looks like touchiness is infiltrating the board in a lot of different manners. LOL
Spring fever, Yankees not in first disease, or whatever, everyone seems to be touchy this time of the year.
Let's hope we all get over it and can enjoy the season without ripping each other and ourselves apart. hehe
Nothing but a red herring to the conversation,
but if you think I would rather have Jeter than Ortiz you are nuts. Maybe not Manny, simply because his loafing for balls hit into the corner drives me nuts as well as his constant trade requests. At least he is running out ground balls this year (so far).
Your choice,
but if you do, it is because you don't care for an opposite point of view, not because the other person is "looney". If you are going to be rude, I personally don't care if you iggy me or not.
Very insulting,
Dont read them then. And certainly don't reply to them. I see you can't see another point of view.
Especially since it is coming from a New York newspaper.
Susie,
His teammates seem to feel the way you do, but that doesn't have anything to do with whether he is overrated or not either.
I like Bill Mueller for the same reasons you state, but he wasn't in the article.
Edit:Not sure if you are really adressing me or the article itself.
Sure they do,
You aren't comparing Jeter's home runs either. There is no contest. Besides, we are talking about being over rated not who has the highest average.
You are just mining a few numbers that favor Jeter which is irrelevent to the discussion anyway. No one but you brought Ortiz and Manny into the discussion.
This again, was a poll of other players, not me.
Linchuck,
I took it to mean that 9% felt he was the most over rated player. Not that 91% didn't, some of that 91 thought Jeter was overrated, etc.
Who knows? Maybe the 91% thought he was the second most over rated. We don't have facts either way to support or refute it.
Linchuck,
I didn't write it. It came from the New York Post and quoted Sports Illustrated.
Lang,
You got 100% on every spelling test in your life? If you can't attack the message, attack he who delivers it.
And I think a lot of folks do feel A-rod with his .26 something average is over rated. Jeter with his poor defense gets a gold glove, he is over rated.
The one guy on the Yankees that is underrated is Bernie Williams who carried the Yankees for over a decade. It is no coincidence that he is a quiet guy, not a media darling. Just a good professional ballplayer.
That stuff goes hand in hand
Susie,
You are really hyper sensitive right now about anything I post. Why wouldn't it be expected that the more the media the more the hype?
I think everyone in the Yankee organization and probably the Met organization as well would say they have extreme expectations placed upon them by George, the media and the fans.
Lighten up already, you are trying to pick fights.
As would be expected,
Two Yankees and one Met are picked as most over rated by their peers. This isn't the players fault as they are not only the beneficiaries but also the victims of the New York media machine that hypes the Yankees and Mets. It sells tickets, creates fans and endorsements; but it also creates these embaressments:
May 3, 2006 -- BOSTON - Derek Jeter smiled at the news that his peers named him the most over-rated player in the big leagues.
In a Sports Illustrated poll of 470 players, Jeter was named on 9 percent of the ballots as the most over-rated. Mets center fielder Carlos Beltran was second with 7 percent and Alex Rodriguez was third with 6 percent.
"I don't care, I guess anything I do now is a plus," Jeter said with a grin. "At least I am in good company.'''
Joe Torre was surprised about Jeter being on top.
"Alex doesn't surprise me because there is a lot of jealousy about the money he makes and his talent, but to say Derek is over-rated, that is surprising," Torre said. "I have had players traded here and after six weeks they come to me and say, 'I knew Jeter was a good player but I didn't know how good.'"
Rodriguez refused comment.
I'm not. LOL
What is hilarious is if the Red Sox are doing the "Let's go Red Sox" chant and the Devil Rays fans start booing and the chant changes to the Yankee one, the Devil Ray fans join in with the Red Sox fan. It is just hilarious.
Susie,
Oh I have a life outside of baseball, I just use strong words to convey meanings.
As you have stated before I tend to get gang tackled by all the yankee fans on boards, so I figure I need to get in some pre-emptive slamming before the horde buries me. LOL
We have been having a lot of problems with our sixteen year old and, as a matter of fact, I have to go to court with him in the morning. Somedays my mood isn't the best because of it and it comes across in my posts.
You may have noticed we Sox fans tend to be a passionate bunch too. But the energy is part of the fun of being a Sox fan. For better or worse.
Susie,
You stated that I take it to personally in the post. Therefore injecting me into the post instead of baseball. No biggie, just making a point.
Now to explain that requires me to make a personal post also. So I will inject a little baseball into this comment.
CC Sabathia made a nice start today as the Indians beat the White Sox. They need him badly as the pitching rotation is the main weakness of a very fine ballclub.
The Indians certainly made mincemeat of the Red Sox last week, but so did the Blue Jays and the Devil Rays. I was fortunate to be at the one Devil Ray game they won, and that took a comeback to do it.
Susie,
Discussing me instead of baseball. "That I take it to personally."
Well, so much for laying low. This is my eleventh post today.
Time to concentrate on the stock market and the early baseball games.
It may be,
but you are getting personal again.
I can see why a lot of fans don't like the Yankees or the Red Sox. The teams seem to get 90% of the coverage on the major media, they both "steal" players from other teams by raising the market value of personnel.
And, fans of both teams take it personally, but I guess that is a premise of the term fanatic, isn't it?
It's a compliment.
I like fruitbats. It is the blood suckers I don't like. :0)
Edit: Yeah it is Mo. Take a good look at him sometime, including his ears and you get the idea of where that came from. It is a popular name for him on Sox boards.
Munson was always fighting with Fisk, the others were all in the middle of the many fights between the two teams in the 70's. I hated the 70's Yankee teams and still do.
As you infer, Jackson and Rivers are self explainitory.
I wouldn't be as down on Johnny right now, even going to the Yankees if he hadn't said he would never go there. I know he is backtracking on his comments now. But a 4/40 contract isn't disrespect, if it is I want some.