Thank you. good luck to you too.

Regards

I did not even put any trade today because I did not get the down move from early.except that long countertrend trade at 1617 .and you went long 1616 and then closed it..You are using caps in your message and all of this because I said there is a hint of price turning at 1613 on 15 minutes and it could fail cause the longer timeframes are bearish ?..there was a slim probability for a countertrend bull turn at 1613 because it is important support but that failed so What?...

After 1616 failure I was looking at 1613 buy with a divergence signal, but decided not to enter when 30 minutes did not turn or give the signal. Did not ignore any sell signal so I do not know what you mean here.

Edit - 15m Text book bottom inside bottom outside but higher timeframes are bearish, if 1613 does not hold than nothing will15 minute divergence...hair trigger may not hold because of the bearish mo...post this replies to...

SPX 15 m

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here we are the dip, either a higher low or a slightly lower low on divergence, prefer the first option but you may take more profit at 1617 or below if we get there

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It sure does not look good on 10 50.1 ...hit the CCI 50.1 and turned down...the only thing left for the bulls is the higher low from this correction up in the channel..

I know if we double dip make a lower low on a divergence which could be the case is does not weaken the day trade bull argument

Added long 1617 as well day counter trend trade
target 1622-1625 area and see how it goes -
We have exhausted the ATR for the day on the down move so it makes sense for abounce, and intraday and daily buy signal from 1613-1615 still intact

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Stochastics being range bound not the best indicator to signal a turn ?...but we use CCI which is also rnge bound..what do you use then?

Di not buy 1625 because did not get a signal, stochastics 30 minutes not letting me..

a disagreement between momentum and flow of funds?..buying though the downmove...manipulation through arranging a downmove and then a buy signal is generated ?

Just checked the USD correlation with SPX (COOR 5 days), its at -0.46...and the Euro is on a strong uptrend..SPX correlation 5 days with EUR is 0.55.

FYI

Wait...wait...that is an old mind technique by a guy I forgot his name but I will remember it...very effective before you sleep and count backwards from 100...Does not have a meaning intentionally...thinking of void...a song will have a meaning attached to it and your mind will go somewhere else...this is even better..forgot the guys name..similar to mantra series and advanced Yoga...Do you know what I talking about here?...whats the name of the man. dates back to the 50s I think.

Just answer it once you see I am trying to answer and not getting it sometimes you need to answer it otherwise all of the readers will not get it eventually...and I will not get it...

now delay on top of denial and detour, and I have got Morpheus, NEo, the Oracle, and The Matrix all four in one to deal with on top of the FACT that the "Market is not listening to me as it used to "..and it used to listen very well....

I think I must have done something right in my life...

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You still did not answer my question..my turn here, can I take the inner band and put an SMA 10?

LOL>>>>> no denial or detour...fine I will just trade the bands and the stochastics then..you will not hear me talk about any other indicator..4 messages before they close the door on me again...Kind of rude..

No denial...just did not understand it..period..

I am the first one to admit I goofed big time when this happens...so its not as if I am running away from any fact or point. Anyways..currency or any other thing I just have a problem staying with the trade and get shaken out despite the technicals saying not to. I have got to work on this and I know that.

good trades

what did you mean by saying picked up your anziety at 1641.6?...did not understand the question

I' am back..had to breathe..lol

Why are we not down then ?...I am neutral anyways after closing that trade at 1634.5...more yoyo stuff...

I am pissed off big time honestly..going out for a cigarette...I will look at that material when I come back

Enjoy..

I know....maybe I will continue to just draw charts....I will leave the trading to you..was shaken out as usual..sad sad case..

Kiy I am out at 1634.5 with a scratch its got to make a higher high then come down me not believe or think but based on momentum - My assessment so don"t shoot me

11 minutes to the top of the hour...30 minute still disagrees and on a buy

I know....gone against the 30 minute signal..."brilliant but still an idiot"...lol...see if it turns the daily I will be kicking myself and I will eat crow for dinner #$%%^^^&

I will show all of this today once this action clears..fascinating..I shorted 1633 (not impressed with myself at the moment - (not fascinating)...

Now an important follow on statement - Can I take out the 20.1 boundaries and put a MA 10?..

If 1635-1636..fail= 1590 gets a test...my target is upon failure is 1580 unless bulls turn it at (low probability at the moment) -

I understand the following statement of yours and I claim nobody else did: "I can take the out boundaries 20-2 and put a EMA 3 instead.."

Enjoy

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I hope you see this cause they have closed the door on me and I have exceeded the posts for today..LOL..I will send you those as soon as I am able to....(Acc/Dsitribution with a moving average...yuk..I must have done something right in my life...

talk soon

.what do you mean?...I did not change nothing here..its the original one I have sent..thought you wanted 6 or 7 originally on one hour No?

Did I make that 5 minute chart? looks awful...lol can"t remember I will take one the updown volume charts out unless you want it..and do you want it trin alone or with StochTrin?

We are testing .......This messing came up with StochTrin one day ...If you want to see the Accumulation distribution line there it is ..I do not like it already, even with a moving average ...but I like its stochastics and think it could be useful..."my view and I could be wrong"

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Added a stochastics for Acc/Distribution Line - notice the resemblance with EMV7

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Explain momentum leads price cause stochastics is momentum and it is slower than price, CCI or price goes first. so Price moves and momentum follows is what I thought?

when does momentum lead price? - Important point for you to clarify

Market Structure: Channel, trendline and visual of higher highs and higher lows

Price Structure: CCI, %B and bollingers...Chart indicators are better, bb one and two deviations

Mass: Volume is a big problem, actually, cause in my opinion TRIN is not enough, StochTrin better but not ideal, EMV we are testing, Chiosc does not cut it 100%

Momentum: Stochastics, and moving averages on chart, Moving averages (certain settings) and one deviation=stochastics on chart -
Moving averages (certain settings) and Keltner Channels=stochastics on chart but not like bands..still works

Is there anything else?

the above is my view and "my" definition..let me hear yours

Enjoy

See this message this replies to...are you reloading short or long...cause you have reloading short and you have long beneath it..

Below is my attempt to define structure and Mass

Structure First-

Market Structure:
Higher highs and higher lows, indicating direction of order flow. Linear regression channel describes this best. Up - Down Sideways

Price Structure:
Price position relative to bands (BB, CCI, %B) points direction
Boundaries of the possible within the market structure - Support and Resistance lines and zones

Mass

Volume and price relationship, or price as a function of volume, but only under a certain velocity or speed..or rate of change.
e.g volume icreasing in one particular direction (up or down) that triggers a change of price, and that resultant change at a certain level of volume and rate of change of price creates momentum.

Momentum rate of change affects volume and price back (or Mass), until mass reaches a certain level to either consolidate or turn momentum in the opposite direction.

Edit - EDIT 1640 is alright...from a line in the sand perspective, below 1637 on daily is a clear signal for me to go short. now its a range 1637 and 1645-43

There was a failure taking 1648 out, I am looking at 1637 but not going to short it given the daily risk to the upside and the low range (few points) ....lets see if this proves correct, 1637 and assess..But this is my view

Correct assessment...I am netural to long because of the daily but volatility is favouring the downside so far on the one hour timeframe, price needs to test the 1650 area quickly. Having said that, and as of Now, we have entered a low vol period on the daily..but that can change of course..

One of the stochastics components is ATR...I look at that as well

Nope will not go against the daily...I said I was leaning short..but now neutral to long but no actual trades today..let it define the range, will not bet against mass, structure and momentum. WHy did stochastics come to life ?...and then stopped?....Is there is a missing 4th piece that we need to look at ? don"t know yet..

Important question...why ?

Here...SPX daily correlation to USO...Shorting here is betting against the Grail, momentum and mass...that is what daily is saying to me ..

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I have done four of the main ones in addition to this one, not sure If I have done a scalping SPX ..I will do one now just in case, hang around, I have got real internet issues this morning...slow than fast for a short period and then slow again..

Yep...leaning short here...lets see, Structure and Mass are favouring a pullback, and momentum is playing dead...

This is a good test of EMV preceeding momentum, and in comparison to a good indicator as well (Chiosc), lets see what we get.

Neon Chart...LOL..I thought these were artistic quality?

Back to structure of price and momentum...

True or False

while CCI is mostly concerned with price being overbought or oversold.. relative to the one and two deviations bands...Stochastics being a momentum indicator is concerned with moving averages being overbought or oversold, moving averages, the meter of momentum..Momentum always lags price, i.e., there is a good reason why moving averages are lagging..

Price is the prime indicator, it has always to signal first..

Enjoy......(can"t believe you are calling my Charts Neon charts)..LOL

Stochastics for the Stochastics Master

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