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With all due respect to he hillariousness and hijinxs, for all this talk about a shipment loading, why can’t I find any legitimate documentation stating this is occurring? I have read for the past two years about some trucking and shipments but yet I can find nothing in Latin Americas records, or Pr releases, stating his is occurring. Additionally, when you times the amount of money with the amount of ore supposedly already shipped twice, this company cannot have any capital left so how are the funding current operations if any? Their sole source of revenue now that stock has been already offered is the exporting of ore but that has not happened in years so I msut ask, how long can a company trade, even in the pinks and grays, before the jig is up and trading is halted? Are we close to that?
Well said Think, wel lsaid, I agree with you and appreciate your true honesty.
With all due respect, if its honesty you want then here it is: To support my side,here is the provable evidence" CE in place, no audited financials, no new shipments ocuring, De-listed ot the pink sheets, a falling share price, no new press releases, and no statements or guidance from the CEO. And now i offer the chance for supporters to offer their tangible evidence, and it must al be provable like mine is, no IMO's, or wait and see, or I hear that, or I beleive, just provable facts. If you want honesty there it is, I will wait to see what positive proof there is which is not opinion or speculation. Everything I provided on my side is provable, let's see what the other side says....
With all due respect, one shre of this stock is not worht any form of US Currency, first get to be worth a penny and hten forcast something like a dime, come on a dime, are yo userious, first work on getting to the lowly penny.
With all due respect Grajek, you are not a little correct, you are 100% correct. We have been strung along for two years now talkign about the "magical shipment." How can this fairy tale story be dragged on for that long? Can someone prodcue documentation to show the last time thsi company did ship overseas? And without shipping thsi compnay is not moving product and without moving prodcut it can't be makding any money so how can it be paying any bills? I am beginning to think this is a lot like a neighbor who is losing their house, they get what they can while they can then they jsut leave in the middle of the night. Nuff said....
With all due respect, OMG, are we really reduced to this sort of straw grabbing here? And going back to pics of trucks supposedly fueling in 2010? Well I guess becasue we have been hearing about some supposed shipment for the last two years we might as well rely on any last relevant data which was from about two years ago. And btw, trucks load up on hudjnreds of gallons fo gas at a time, they don't stop locally...Lol...Come on guys, you can do better than this, or at least i hope you can. Surebob has more reliable sources and facts than this....
With all due respect, do you really think a buyback is going to occur? If it is then it would have occured when the shares were rock bottom a few weks ago, if anything I think there is huge insider trading and by trading I mean selling. People got hyped up o nthe shorty coverings a few weeks ago and I stated it was shorty coverings and everyone went after me but jsut liek i stated, volume has dried up and the stock is trending downward again. Shareholder buyback? I think not.
Hey Mari - Cehck the posts from last week, and the week before, and the week before that. Look at all the posts where everyone was saying it is a great time to buy before the run they knew was coming and that a PR is also coming soon. Then there is all the talk about trucks, boats, etc... but never any new breakthrough news about a milestone being met or a true financial report being offered. And now I see someone referecing a Chniese New yaer, really, Chinese New Years, are you serious? I would not doubt if the small volume that is trading now is being sold by insiders or those close to the company. A few weeks ago I called it that shorty was covering and everyone badegered me and said I will see...Well now shorty has covered and has made a mil and look where everyone else is. This pipe dream has burst like a Chicago water pipe on Michigan Avenue in the middle of winter. Several days ago people were even e-mailing and supposedly caling Bob, bet that did good.
With all due respect Puresafe, those in a sinking boat don't consider it a blessign when people jump out and try to swim to safety, they go down with the ship. Some here have over a million shares and an't sell them if they wanted to becasue there is not usually enough volume, or the sell price is soo low they jsut can't. You appear to say that there are a lot of positives on the horizon, if that is the case then why is this stock sinking again? What do you know that msot don't? And I only ask this becasue i have been reading here for the past several months that some magical PR is coming soon but it never has and now you pop up and say this, why, how, give us details please.......
With all due respect, forgive me if I don't invest the rest of my nest egg nased on an annonymous e-mail pasting into a message board post fron an annonymous individual, and this is with all due respect Mister Wonder, or Mister Idowonder, or whatever your last name really is. This may be good enough for Kubs and the crew but I need more, moch more. Additionally, you tell me one company or dock, that will store piles of commodities without charging, show me one. Never, nevr. Additionally, I am sure whoever is insuring this so-called pile of ore ready for shipment would also have a say. This is jsut too casusal a response ofr my liking but maybe some others here will disagree.
With all due respect, there are several concerns here. First, no one holds cargo for free so there is a concern that delays would create additional expenses so if htere really was a shipment sitting aroudn waiting ot be loaded it would be addressed promptly. Secondly, most goods have to be insured iwth surety and I a msure that the insurance company, or LOC bank, would not jsut let this pile of ore sit around on a dock somewhere. Thirdly, shipping plans ar set months in advance, it is not something you do whimsically, so if there really was a load it would have been addressed long ago, it is not ever, never ever, never ever ever something that gets addressed last minute. Lastly, what boats would sit around without a load while all of this plays out? Boats have a ton pof expenses and the ywill nto wait around for this small amount of money' Let alone, trucks, work crews, and administrative expenses. This all adds to the ridiuclousness.
With all due respect, and Rocket I do respect you, I am not seeign anything of significance that encourages me to hold what I have any longer, or to buy more shares. There is a lot of speculation but no substance and follow through. In all reality, this has no real foundation and is a tower of cards built on speculation. A previous im-poster said this is "Iron clad", how dare they say this without substantial backup and evidence. Imagine if yo uare some newb lookin to invest the nest egg, is thsi " Iron clad" soudn advice? I think we need reality checks galore here and then we can mvoe forward but he hyp comes off as pump and dump talk and scares people away. I am just asking for some realism....
With all due respect, this stock is agai nrending downward so if Iron clad is the optional word then it is Iron clad in a sea of disarray and is sinking fast.I have said it before and i wil lsay it again, the last two weeks were nothign but short coverings and evryone seen a little upward swing and jumped on the glorious bandwagon and threw out several IMO's and hopes but in reality nothing has come to fruition and this stock is where it should be. No PR's, no new deals, no fins, no CE removal, how can anyone say it is iron clad unless htye are somehow profiting fom keepign the action going on this stock. Care to confess anything???? Anyone???
With all due respect, I appreciate everyone’s opinion here and if you feel slighted I apologize. However, I feel that I ask pointed questions designed to get to the bottom of this company and its issues and one complexity that appears never to be resolved is the paradox that this appears to not only be ownership in a stock of a company which drills but also a situation where we are getting drilled by ownership of a company of which we take stock. Secondly, all of the professed longs state they are holding their shares, if this is true, then who is selling? Could it be Bob and his cohorts selling while everyone in here does nothing but buy up the shares Bob and company are selling? Isn’t that what they call in the business world a “Golden parachute”? Ooh that’s right, that never happens in penny-world and besides that people in here have it on good word that bob is doing nothing more than looking out for the longs. I guess we even have pictures, of what we truly don’t know, but I read it in here like it is gospel that these are Bob’s mines even though technically they are not mines but sand hills. Lastly, just read through the various posts and I bet you can’t go more than ten at a time without someone either saying it is a great time to buy now or that the PR is coming soon. This is getting both old and redundant. Average it out and I bet you can’t go more than ten posts, go all the way back to last summer and on average you will see. I respond when it is appropriate and I apologize if I leave some here wanting for more but I have a lot to do so I can’t sit in here all day but I hope all the best for all concerned share holders and I urge you to be objective and subjective and selective and follow my directive and be your own due diligence detective to gain your own perspective.
Let's see who files first, all of us with our income taxes or CWRN with their finances. I have been hearing from so many here that their audited fins are suppsoed to be coming soon so lets give them a real deadline, something to be held accountable to. Let's see who blinks..........
With all due respect, peeps were telling me to buy in the 7's because this was rocketing past the penny mark last week and hte weke before, it now rests in the 5's and has downward trending. Numerous posters said we would see a PR late last week or early this week so for those still holding a few shares, what can be expected? Short covering had people coming out of the woodwork tellign everyone "I told ya so" and "To the moon." Well now its been almost 14 days, where is hte PR all professed? And now that shorts ahve covered where is the buyoign goign to come from? We all seen the volume dry up last week and htere are three times as many sell orders as buys so please osmeone, tell me what is positivie that will factually occur thsi week?
With all due respect, the only ones I see buying this back is shorty as shorty covers. Once the short covering stopped this week look at what the stock did and the volume was. I stated this early last week in the face of the "To the moon" detractors but look at hwer it is now, baout ready to go sub 56 again. If you wantto unload a few shares and hedge your best now is a good time or you can gamble on pure speculation.
Good morning Rocket, with all due respect, maybe this is funded by Bob selling his shares and cahsing in and reinvesting jsut a small amount. Someone is selling for every new buyer, how do se know it is not the Bob or his associates selling their shares. Consider this, he makes 10 thou on sellign in a day and puts a few dollars in gas to run some equipment, makes sense. For all we know these aren't even authentic pictures, who really knows? I rmemebr seeing the guy on the 911 tower jsut before the plane hit, if they can fake this what can't they fake?
With all due respect, you say to “blame the small traders who want to drive the price down, problem is, you can't buy a large amount of shares, without driving the price back up, which means, small profits.” What kind of logic is this statement based on? This makes no sense and I cannot understand what you are trying to state. The real fact is there was a short covering and that got a little pop for this but the hypsters chimed in trying to create a state of euphoria based on baseless facts and instead on speculation and conjecture and when all of this speculation dies down we are left with the same POS this is getting to be known as. However, you have a choice, you can sell here or gamble but to try and blame some outside source is as ridiculous as some of the unfounded information, unconfirmed reports, and pure speculation I have read here lately. Let’s have the facts and facts only, not IMO’s or unproven statements. I don’t want to hear about ships shipping I want the manifests, no more future financial report dates, give us the reports, no more talk about the future production, produce now. Please respond with fact and not speculation or IMO’s. I eagerly await to read any proven facts.
With all due respect, he has not heard anything we have not, nothing public being told here, just some short coverings. It's funny how shorty is so rviled till he creates a little run. However, this is trending back down now and the price is almsot sub 7's so if you want to cash out do it now before the short cover is over.
With all due respect you will have a chance to buy this cheap again and if not I have some pop bottles you can cash in to acquire a couple hundred thousands shares or so, I think one bag o' bottles will cover it. I rememebr when this was at two pennies so despite the hype this is still way, way, down, so you have plenty of time to buy.
Yes it was a terrible move becasue so many here bought o nthe way down i nthe 5's, 4's they had no cash on hand ot buy in the 3's like many of us did so I stand by my opinion, buying o nthe way down is a terrible strategy and so is holding this stock longer than shorty supports it while short covering.
I am holding the rip chord at a penny, anyone else want to fly that close to the round I would caution, this will drop and you can buy back but cover yourself here, this is rarified air for this POS as of late....
I recall several of you being happy that the stock was in the 3's and 4's because it was a buying opportunity, how do you feel now? I bet no one minds the short covers becasue the shorties have this thing a jumping.....
Hi treaty, I heard this is running urely on shorty short covering so get in on it while it lasts..............
With all due respect, even if all this is is shorty short covering it is a good chance for shareholders to sell their shares and move their money around so don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. I think it’s funny how shorty gets blamed when a stock tanks but never when it goes up based on short coverings, talk about hypocrisy.
With all due respect, forgive me for not joing in the Euphoria but I don't think it is prudent to celebrate this stock merely climbing from it's basement low to a spot just above but far lower than it was a week, a month, and a year ago. For all I know this is just short coering and the last straw, what else could it be? I wonder what Surebob thinks?????
The stock market is up and this POS is trending down, what does that tell you about the future of this company? I think it's all we need to know.
Yeah, if this was chess the king would have been tipped becasue this POS has been checkmated long ago.................In chess strategy is king and it is obvious there is no strategy here.
How are thsoe buys at 6's and 5's looking now? If you had money in hand think of how much more you could buy based on the theory that you think a fallen price is good. Many who did not buy then have tons of cash in hand but this may be going way down, way, way, down.
With all due respect Future, A meeting with Bob does nothing for shareholder value. Without audited financials being released, the CE removed, and definitive guidance on the 2012 exporting license, what will a meeting gain us? Is Bobby going to do any of these things at your meeting? A used car salesman meets and greets people as well but he never really tells you what is really under the hood, he just tells you what he thinks you want to hear. Therefore, I would not be interested in a meeting with Bobby, or what he has to say, actions speak louder than words so I want to see financials, CE removal, and a perfectly executed and legitimate exporting license. Bagels and coffee are for lunch bunch gatherings, I am all about hard cold facts. I listened as people said Bob was contacting them and as they said right here to accumulate when it was in the 7’s, then the 6’s, then people said only idiots would not buy in the 5’s, I was told I missed my chance in the high 4’s so now what is to be done now that this is in the low, and I mean low, 3’s? I really, and I don’t think I am alone here, don’t want to see more pictures of equipment, mines, and a shaggy scruffy dog, I want to see financials, CE removal, and exporting license. I don’t want to se pictures of this stuff either, I want to read about it through legitimate news sources and press releases and I want to be able to verify this with the SEC.
I can't give you financials but i can give you a holiday CWRN song. In the spirit of the holidays, here is a holiday song for all CWRN shareholders holding strong,
Ooh the weather outside if frightful but in the CWRN chat room the talk is still delightful,
So since the iron ore has nowhere to really go let he CWRN hype grow, let it grow, let it grow,
Bob hasn’t show signs of stopping regardless of the fact that the CWRN bubble is popping,
And the stock appears to be trending way down low, but all I keep hearing is how Bob is just letting this company grow, and letting it grow ,and letting it grow,
But when Bob finally says good night,
I bet there will be many who say they sold out just before the storm,
But if you really hold my advice tight,
All the way home you’ll be warm,
Because the reality is that the CWRN dream is slowly dying,
And to say otherwise would be simply lying,
And, my dear, we're still good-bye-ing,
But Bob says that “as long as you love me so”,
Let it grow, let it grow, let it grow.
With all due respect long and strongers, “What positives do you really see?”
Just wait for my Bobby the red nosed CEO who had a very shiny nose,
And if you talk about his company, he will just simply tell you how much it wil grow,
All of the other ceo’s used ot laugh and call him names,
They never let poor Bobby join in any corporate games,
Then one foggy Christmas Eve the federales came to say,
“Bobby with your nose so bright, why don’t you provide audited financials and just do what is right?,
Then all the investors would love you, they would even stop calling you names.”
With all due respect Snoop Dog, how can anyone say we are looking good going into a great 2012? The stock is down 8333333333 percent from its year high. There is no exporting licenses for 2012. There are no audited financials being released. And there is now a CE on this stock. In addition, we are falling through the depths of the off-market trading lists. Many concerned CWRN investors would like to know what light at the end of the tunnel do you see that forbears an excitement and prompt upswing for this stock? The stock market has been revving back up the past 10 days and this stock is headed downward in stark contrast so please tell me what no one else seems to know.
With all due respect, all I want for Christmas are some audited financials, or at least the CE removal, but these are about as real and will be seen about as much as the real Santa Claus and his posse of reindeer. Now when people say that valuations of stocks are at their lowest level in 60 years they may be correct but I don’t believe that this stock has hit the low 3’s because of undervalue, it is more because of mismanagement of the current situation. You can’t have a stock go down and down and not speak up to address investor concerns. What has happened while i have been out and about traveling the world on sweet vacations? This was in the 4's last I chekced in before i started my world tour. Merry Christmas to all here and a Happy New Years.
Iceberg straight ahead captain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And theres not enough lifeboats for everyone. Like a hot potatoe, do you really want ot be the last CWRN shareholder before the stock de-lists?
With all due respect, the evidence is the CWRN share price, what else can be said? Sure, several individuals on this board have provided good arguments for what they think is going to happen the but the reality is that nothing is happening and the share price reflects this. None of us investors are happy to see this stock tumbling, none of us who are real investors. Ironically, some here say they are actually cheering a falling share price, do passengers on a sinking ship really celebrate because the seats will soon be cheaper? I don’t think so and I also don’t think anyone who is a real owner of this company for any time frame is really happy about a falling share price. The bigger issue in all this is the lack of audited financials, and the removal of the CE, and now the lack of a future exporting license are all combining to scare away any new investment in this company and that is what everyone needs if they really want to turn a buck. I have proposed the same questions over and over and all I get back is the rhetorical, it has already been answered, or do your own dd, well when you consider the trend of this stock it appears I am not the only one with these legitimate concerns. Pictures and e-mails are all fine and dandy for the hype machine but for real investment we need legitimate legal documents, financials, and CE removal provided immediately or this company may end up facing a class action lawsuit from its shareholders....
With all due respect to those who offer logical answers to legitimate CWRN concerns, Ooh come on, back to the MM accusations again? I mean really. Are you really going to blame MM’s? Why not throw a shorty reference or two out there as well. For all CWRN logical shareholders I will quote the famous saying, “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.” And by fear I mean the fear of the unknown such as the unknown status of the Exporting license for 2012, which I hear is not in place. Fear of the audited financials, if they were as good as we all hoped we would have had them by now so I fear this company is in trouble. Fear of the CE, which I fear is keeping all new investment away because of apprehension that this stock may not trade in the future and some could potentially never get to sell their shares. So please, offer legit answers like I have seen, some are far fetched but are legitimate but please don’t throw out the the MM’s and shorties….
Are we really baout to see sub 4's here? I read how everyone was buying up what they coudl grab at 6's and 5's, so what gives?
With all due respect to the CWRN shareholders, I received numerous catcalls and snide remarks the past several weeks for what I consider to be legitimate CWRN stockholder questions and not it appears that the light volumes and trading trending are reflecting not only my concerns but hose of any new potential investors. We can argue back and forth amongst ourselves but in reality the fundamental truth about the lack of fundamentals is hurting shareholder value tremendously. I have heard that shipping is occurring but how can it when CWRN ha no exporting license? This question was asked several times last week and rather than answer the message the asker was attacked, this really does nothing more than show the frustration investors have with this stock and it surely does not encourage new investment. Similarly, the lack of financials is also a grave concern to new investors. Again, several questions have been asked and again the asker was attacked and I feel this is misdirected energy. Rather than attack the question asker investors should direct this energy towards CWRN management and ask them why there are no audited financials being released? Now I am sure several people will say these questions have bee unanswered and or individuals to do their own dd but these answers are growing tired and how many times can we see posts where someone talks about trucks, boats, or pictures of equipment with really nothing else of substance occurring. If I am wrong then I look forward o trading how I am wrong but please correlate your arguments with the share price and volume because as I have asked these questions the price and volume has dropped so if you have disputing evidence then please show me how this positive information you have correlates with a price increase that we can all research and see.
With all due respect, you can have the whole fifth fleet but if you don't have an exporting permit you cannot ship material out of the country. Why would there be any loading of any ship if the ship is not allowed to leave port, it does not make sense. Additionally, there are no revenue sources so where would this supposed new shipment be goign to? No one has stepped up to sign a deal to buy the ore so why would it be loaded in the first place, it just does not add up. CWRN sharehodlers, true longs, deserve better than hype and hyperbole, and pumpers comign in here saying stuff that cannot be backed up. And don't tell me we have pictures because I seen a picture of a man on top of the WTC just before the first plane hit and many thought that was real too. We need more definitive proof than pictures and IMO's and please all, quit saying shippign is occuring when there is no permit....