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The deadline for getting a booth at MinnPack is next week. If it doesn't happen that counts as a major announcement.
Of course, when it does, we all let out a sigh of relief!
To all investors thinking of selling: Do yourself a favor, wait a week. See what the lay of the land is after the first of the month. I expect a few days can't hurt, the PPS is at its 52 week low, and a major announcement, one way or the other, is due next week.
Gentlemen and Ladies All: I just checked MD&D registration, which is updated every day at COB so is current to 9/22, and Microfil/Healthostics is not yet registered. I am not surprised. This will go up to the last day. That's the way these equipment projects go. BTW, I believe the machine is real because it would be stupid to PR if it wasn't. These guys are anything but stupid.
Only a few days remain to Judgement Day so expect a major push downward by the shorts to shake loose cheap shares to cover. Be warned.
Be aware that the two spikes to .30 were P&D operations. Having said that, I think this stock is grossly undervalued. I just don't see the mechanism on the horizon, however, to propel the PPS to a more reasonable level. I keep hoping, though.
Pretty easy to see what happened. Someone with a big position, probably a company, put a stop loss on their shares and their MM screwed them. Sold shares for what ever they could to move them fast, at more than 0.0009, then covered at the stop loss. Make a few bucks doing it then fade into the background until the next opportunity comes along. All about making a quick buck.
Really? I could almost cover that.
Bull.
On August 18 the O/S was reported at 263,800,000 and change. 100mil is tied up in the deal that HNS Funds struck with another company, plus I own 30mil. There's half the stock. B would need to own all the rest, and I think a few on this board would dispute that.
Very interesting. If you read down through the post on their 10-q filing you'll find they did a reciprocal licensing agreement with an Indian firm for that very type of Interferon. Clever.
Even though this guy got edgy, doesn't mean he'll stop his games.
BTW, can't do private replies. I didn't pay.
As you said, one does not get that kind of invite for no reason. Technically, this guy is the real deal, on an international level.
Strikes me as a good candidate for a short squeeze. Not that big an O/S and prices are low. Too bad I don't have more cash.....
I would be more than happy to be proven wrong.
I agree with your observation.
Each of us has a different guess. My opinion is that it won't move much because there aren't enough buyers out there to make it move.
Please explain. How do you know this? Experience or conjecture?
Please elucidate. I may learn something.
Well above that. I set it at what I think the stock is worth. Doc, you now have it bracketed, although with a big range.
Well, I now have 60 day sell orders on all of my holdings. If this is going to have an effect, check for a change in ETMM activity. I didn't go as high as you recommended on my HNSS stock, yet. Lets see what this does, if anything, and modify later.
Guess that tells us where the "unlimited" shares are coming from.
I agree with that. Does them no good to skip the PRs. I would really like to know how my investment is doing.
IMO its not Boost, they've been pretty punctual about dumping their shares the second of the month (the dogs), every month. Least they could do is hold a little while and try to get a better price.
Why sell at a loss? Just wait it out.
I am by no means an expert with this, so let me ask a question. If I'm a market maker and a retail client has 30mil shares sitting there, not for sale, can't I "borrow" them for a while? Legal or illegal?
Second idea that comes to mind are the 100mil shares that were issued as part of the deal HNS Funds made. Almost certainly they were restricted as far as selling them goes, but maybe there is no clause about loaning them out.
"For some reason"? They're making money. And the lower the PPS while they are doing it, the larger the percentage they make. Take a look at some of the other stocks where this is happening. One that I'm invested in is rocking between .0001 bid and .0002 ask. They make 50% profit when someone can be enticed to sell at the bid. Not a bad scheme if you have no morals and the connections to make it work. Just borrow a few shares and go at it.
You are right that there is no new blood coming to the game, but I disagree with the reason. I'm seeing this same scenario being played out across all of the small business landscape that I follow. People who would invest here have converted to cash and gold, essentially in hiding. Until that changes there will not be enough buying pressure to thwart the manipulators.
Manipulators that don't pay trade fees. The whole idea is to make it look bad so people will panic and sell into that 200mil bid at 0.0001. Who would sell so cheap? Now is the time to add to your position. I am, as funds become available.
If one of my other plays breaks loose, I'm going to have some fun with these manipulators, at their expense.
What makes you think these are new shares? More likely, my MM is "borrowing" my very own shares to screw me.
They keep this one more up to date, and seems to show all entrants. Still not there yet.
http://www.canontradeshows.com/expo/minn11/exhibit/
There's another advertising opportunity you didn't specifically mention. All of the industry press will have a ton of reps at the show. There will be a press room back in the back somewhere, and press reps will be cruising the floor.
If any of us do make it to the show, see if you can start a conversation with one (or more) of these guys. Mention that you came to see this new machine and it is supposed to slice and butter your bread for you. "If its as good as they say, you should do a feature on it."
That would get the word out to the folks who couldn't make the show.
I too can't wait to see what happens after MinnPak, but my expectations are lower based on how these shows normally go, and the overall dismal equities market. In this case, however, I hope I'm proven wrong.
You bring up another important point that will slow down acceptance. Dependability and durability are really important, and this machine is a new introduction. If there is some track record with the older machines, that will help, but no one wants to be the "guinea pig".
You make some good points. Some in much larger companies do have discretionary budgets that are big enough for such a purchase. Guess we'll see in November.
I wish I could go but it is just too far on my own time and money.
I am in a different industry but I've bought expensive machinery like this. When I go to one of these shows I come back with a big bag of literature and have collected and passed out a bunch of business cards. Over the next few weeks I go through all this crap and figure out what really makes sense to pursue.
I discuss the options with my bosses and put together a proposal that shows how making the purchase will benefit my company, along with a Corporate Appropriation Request. This gets reviewed and signed off by several managers then goes to each of the VPs. If they approve, the CEO and, for this much money, the Board would review and sign off.
Once I get through that, I write up the procurement spec and the order, which goes to Purchasing. They spend a week or three trying to negotiate the price down before FINALLY placing the firm order.
Not a quick process.
Good overview but I think 8 machine orders from the show is way too optimistic. This is a world I live in. Most buyers of high cost Mfg equipment are not going to order at the show. They will wait and talk it over with Management. If we get one or two orders that will be huge! More will follow over the next three to six months, particularly as word gets out that delivery and performance are as advertised. Be patient!
Not good enough. I figure its worth 05 to 08, but 01 would be better than where we are. I suggest to all that now is the time to load up if you've got the dry powder.
1. I don't know but there is a lot going on here that I can't figure out. Don't have enough information.
2. No facts, but typically one year.
Not selling, issuing to HNS Funds for the negotiated trade. HNSF then "sold" them 6/24 to seal the deal. IMO, other than the sales on that day I have no hard facts to back up my reasoning.
I don't disagree with either of you, gentlemen, but I think you are mistaken about where the $500,000 came from. HNSS issues 100mil shares at par, $10,000, then convinces a company to trade stock and debt for the shares at $0.01 per share. While the deal was a while in the making, it closed on June 24, the day the first PR came out about the buyout. Check the sales that afternoon and the O/S on that day. No way 135mil shares would sell in minutes when the O/S is 155mil. Later, when the buyout results are published, the O/S is 263mil.
BTW, those 100mil shares would have restrictions on them from both parties. From HNSS would come a limitation on when they could be sold, effectively voting them against the buyout. That is an automatic 38% no vote. Think the strategy of the scenario above through with that in mind and....
GLTA
Gentlemen and Ladies All:
I have worked with similar expensive production machines (Big Three dog & pony show deadline rather than an Expo) and can envision the scenario: In the shop the machine sits in a large open space with people all arround, seemingly running in circles. A kerjillion details need to be fixed by engineers, programmers, machinists, and cetera. Management is getting nervous because the deadline is getting close and they need to pull the trigger on an expensive show booth and STILL don't have assurance that they will have something to show. Give them some breathing room folks.
This will either happen or not, and the affect on PPS will be mediocre. Why? Because we need more players, which, to a great extent, depends on the greater economy pulling more small investors into equities.
BTW, while Ihub is fun to read I make my own investing decisions based on my own DD. You will always get some honest views mixed with the rantings of some game players. Don't let any of it distract you from your goals. GLTA